View Full Version : NOT A DEBATE - prove God exsists. - NOT A DEBATE NOOB
Dylan
12-27-2008, 11:57 PM
FIRST OFF, NO ONE RESPOND TO A "PROOF POST" TRYING TO DENOUNCE IT, IF YOU WANT TO , PM THEM, AS THIS IS NOT A MOFO'ING DEBATE. I JUST WANT THIS PROOF.
No debating here, I just demand to see this proof that a man is reading my thoughts right now, along with everyone else in teh world, and is everywhere at one time, and it split in three people in one eprson.
Now.
OGCrookedO
12-28-2008, 12:00 AM
Prove he doesn't exist. Do it now.
Strelok12
12-28-2008, 12:03 AM
He doesn't exist,REAL Scientists should agree also. (Not those idiotic scientologists <_<)
When you die you don't go to heaven nor hell,I had this in mind long ago...I won't tell you,only on PM.
Jesus is all fake,he never existed,he never was made. Or is it true? It is,but he ain't a son of a god. He's just a poser who's trying hard to be good. So THIS IS THE REASON WHY I SAY GOODNESS DOESN'T EXIST. He was the only good man,the others are just trying hard to be him. After all,he sucked. So better be Normal instead of good <_<
C'mon! It better believe in the Spaghetti monster rather than this god.
Dylan
12-28-2008, 12:06 AM
Prove he doesn't exist. Do it now.
I already have given my proof multiple times and have made many Christians atheist from them.
Stop spamming.
He doesn't exist,REAL Scientists should agree also. (Not those idiotic scientologists <_<)
When you die you don't go to heaven nor hell,I had this in mind long ago...I won't tell you,only on PM.
Jesus is all fake,he never existed,he never was made. Or is it true? It is,but he ain't a son of a god. He's just a poser who's trying hard to be good. So THIS IS THE REASON WHY I SAY GOODNESS DOESN'T EXIST. He was the only good man,the others are just trying hard to be him. After all,he sucked. So better be Normal instead of good <_<
C'mon! It better believe in the Spaghetti monster rather than this god.
Pm me what you said you wont post here.
OGCrookedO
12-28-2008, 12:09 AM
I see no proof from you. Where is it?
FusiouS
12-28-2008, 12:10 AM
ok god exist ok
There is EVERY BIT OF PROOF
look at the bible look at everything
How can you prove he doesn't exist :b
Quantooce
12-28-2008, 12:12 AM
You people may think God doesn't exsist, but I think, without a doubt, Jesus is real.
Leonardo
12-28-2008, 12:14 AM
Greb said no religious threads on Pawn. If you want to debate st0ff, go to a religious forum.
http://www.pawngame.com/forum/showpost.php?p=613059&postcount=9
asaulterguy
12-28-2008, 12:15 AM
PROVE it now right now how he doesnt exist i mean its real look in the bible he does by we were created by... well?
Dylan
12-28-2008, 12:16 AM
You people may think God doesn't exsist, but I think, without a doubt, Jesus is real.
Give proof.
Now, or gtfo.
Greb said no religious threads on Pawn. If you want to debate st0ff, go to a religious forum.
He said no religious debate.
Read the thread title, AND THE LARGE RED PRINT THAT I MADE LARGE AND RED SO EVEN A 2 YEAR OLD COULDN'T MISS IT.
OGCrookedO
12-28-2008, 12:16 AM
The bible proves nothing. I am not any religion except Scientology as a joke <.< I just want to hear the "antigod" proof.
asaulterguy
12-28-2008, 12:17 AM
Greb said no religious threads on Pawn. If you want to debate st0ff, go to a religious forum.
http://www.pawngame.com/forum/showpost.php?p=613059&postcount=9 really!?! oh no im gonna get banned
Dylan
12-28-2008, 12:19 AM
The bible proves nothing. I am not any religion except Scientology as a joke <.< I just want to hear the "antigod" proof.
Read my past posts in the locked debates, you'll fidn plenty.
really!?! oh no im gonna get banned
STOP SPAMMING.
Give proof he is real or LEAVE.
Quantooce
12-28-2008, 12:20 AM
Why so serious?
Sarai
12-28-2008, 12:23 AM
Life, why must you repeat sparking debate wether or not you don't want it here?
I think you've aggravated some people with that statement after those huge words.
For once, I would like to see the proof that God does not exist with the use of real logic and science without the usual backfire on its own theories.
As I've posted time and time again, the universe is too exact for living forms to exist. By LOGIC, it HAS to have an intelligent design and creator.
And there was no splitting of three people into one man.
God is not Man, therefore he can read everyone's thoughts, he is a diety.
He is OMNISCIENT. That's the whole purpose of being a god.
Chickletman
12-28-2008, 12:23 AM
http://i39.tinypic.com/20tlyt1.jpg
I think it's the tall man, there's your proof!!!
Strelok12
12-28-2008, 12:25 AM
ok god exist ok
There is EVERY BIT OF PROOF
look at the bible look at everything
How can you prove he doesn't exist :b
I don't get it,The Bible is just a book made by some novelist or novelists who tried to impress people(Like every other novelist). It looks like they got impressed very high and made this bullshet called "Religion".
BTW. H.P. Lovecraft. He created Cthulhu. I should believe him.
Dylan
12-28-2008, 12:25 AM
Life, why must you repeat sparking debate wether or not you don't want it here?
I think you've aggravated some people with that statement after those huge words.
For once, I would like to see the proof that God does not exist with the use of real logic and science without the usual backfire on its own theories.
As I've posted time and time again, the universe is too exact for living forms to exist. By LOGIC, it HAS to have an intelligent design and creator.
And there was no splitting of three people into one man.
God is not Man, therefore he can read everyone's thoughts, he is a diety.
He is OMNISCIENT. That's the whole purpose of being a god.
You make a good point, but not flawless, I see that stand a lot, and I know the holes in it.
But if I debate it here, I get this thread locked.
I'd like proof I haven't heard, is the point of this thread.
Thank you for the first non spam post.
http://i39.tinypic.com/20tlyt1.jpg
I think it's the tall man, there's your proof!!!
More spam D:
Funny spam D:
Chickletman
12-28-2008, 12:29 AM
Isn't me posting proof enough?
Ohhhh, think about!
Strelok12
12-28-2008, 12:34 AM
http://i39.tinypic.com/20tlyt1.jpg
I think it's the tall man, there's your proof!!!
http://i44.tinypic.com/22ba6g.jpg
Here's the tall man.
Sarai
12-28-2008, 12:34 AM
I don't get it,The Bible is just a book made by some novelist or novelists who tried to impress people(Like every other novelist). It looks like they got impressed very high and made this bullshet called "Religion".
BTW. H.P. Lovecraft. He created Cthulhu. I should believe him.
You misinterpret the Bible as a book to actually not even understand it.
The Bible are assortments of chapters known as "books" of witnesses to God's acts or the men of God acting in faith. It wasn't organized by a writers group like Nancy Drew's author(s), it's from different time periods WHICH was proven by Science.
By the way...Christianity didn't make religion, there were many religions before it.
To Life: Life, I do not assume, no presume, to know that God is there.
Faith and understanding of some of the concepts of the Bible and the religion itself from outside sources are what makes up my own personal belief in God.
What do you want to hear, Life? Another outrageous claim of existence of God in your eyes or something you might possibly never believe in anyway? Proof for human eyes are eluding and difficult. You and I have heard all the arguements, theories, and reviewed the Bible and other sources on the existence and acts of God. I cannot possibly tell you anything furthermore unless I try to come up with my own "proof".
The matter of God cannot be disproven or proven on the human level of logic and science. It can only be fought over at an equilburilium.
Nevertheless how a one entity be so omniscient? At times even in the Bible, God is not omniscient. He focuses only on one nation or a group then moves onto the next and so on. Look at the example of the birth of Samuel.
God just then HEARD of Samuel's mother praying day and night in the temple which gives a hint that he is not altogether omniscient.
Leonardo
12-28-2008, 12:37 AM
Oh sorry, the red font is so big, its going through my eyes without them seeing it.
Dylan
12-28-2008, 12:39 AM
You misinterpret the Bible as a book to actually not even understand it.
The Bible are assortments of chapters known as "books" of witnesses to God's acts or the men of God acting in faith. It wasn't organized by a writers group like Nancy Drew's author(s), it's from different time periods WHICH was proven by Science.
By the way...Christianity didn't make religion, there were many religions before it.
To Life: Life, I do not assume, no presume, to know that God is there.
Faith and understanding of some of the concepts of the Bible and the religion itself from outside sources are what makes up my own personal belief in God.
What do you want to hear, Life? Another outrageous claim of existence of God in your eyes or something you might possibly never believe in anyway? Proof for human eyes are eluding and difficult. You and I have heard all the arguements, theories, and reviewed the Bible and other sources on the existence and acts of God. I cannot possibly tell you anything furthermore unless I try to come up with my own "proof".
The matter of God cannot be disproven or proven on the human level of logic and science. It can only be fought over at an equilburilium.
Nevertheless how a one entity be so omniscient? At times even in the Bible, God is not omniscient. He focuses only on one nation or a group then moves onto the next and so on. Look at the example of the birth of Samuel.
God just then HEARD of Samuel's mother praying day and night in the temple which gives a hint that he is not altogether omniscient.
God.
You have to be the smartest and most reasonable user in this whole forum and game.
Thanks for the second not spam post :D
What do you want to hear, Life? Another outrageous claim of existence of God in your eyes or something you might possibly never believe in anyway? Proof for human eyes are eluding and difficult. You and I have heard all the arguements, theories, and reviewed the Bible and other sources on the existence and acts of God. I cannot possibly tell you anything furthermore unless I try to come up with my own "proof".
Exactly.
Anything they can come up with someone made up, unless it is backed by real tangible proof.
That right there proves 99% of Christianity wrong.
Thanks for actually showing a real point, and backing it up.
Sarai
12-28-2008, 12:45 AM
It does not disprove the meaning and concept of the religion itself, Life
but rather of some individuals who have done so.
The point of the religion is not harmful but reassuring, there are too many views and opinions on it to be sure what exactly is proof or not.
It has been "reinforced" by which scientists have discovered, old relics and ancient records, tellings, and witness accounts around the time.
It is difficult to explain, but in short it has been perverted by many, many individudals lusting for power and wealth in the religion's circle instead of for spiritual enlightenment.
EaEaEa
12-28-2008, 12:51 AM
god exists because jesus loves me!!!!!
No idiots.
Shut up.
laughingleapard
12-28-2008, 12:54 AM
Life, why must you repeat sparking debate wether or not you don't want it here?
I think you've aggravated some people with that statement after those huge words.
For once, I would like to see the proof that God does not exist with the use of real logic and science without the usual backfire on its own theories.
As I've posted time and time again, the universe is too exact for living forms to exist. By LOGIC, it HAS to have an intelligent design and creator.
And there was no splitting of three people into one man.
God is not Man, therefore he can read everyone's thoughts, he is a diety.
He is OMNISCIENT. That's the whole purpose of being a god.
What your trying to prove is intelligent design. Intelligent design is philosiphical theory based of a man walking along a path and finding a watch on the ground, and since theres a watch, there must a watch maker... Its a ridiculous theory. Anyway it was proved wrong with a mouse trap. One of the leading people who argue for intelligent design said that things such as a mouse trap have no function outside of being a mouse trap. But that was proven wrong because they components of that mouse trap can be used. To the whole logic thing that is just the human mind attempting to comprehend. If humans did not exist logic would not be known. The only thought in any beasts mind is survival. The way we have ended up now is due to a serendipitous malfunction in meisos. A mutation. There are thousands of different ways we could have ended up. Our hair, skin color and eye color is an example of different mutations. There is no logic, just survival.
Sarai
12-28-2008, 12:57 AM
It was not the theory of intelligent design I was trying to prove.
I was trying to say that the Universe has to have a maker.
Stephen Hawking and many other scientists have come up with the results that if the Universe was off by just .000000000000000000000001
atoms/chemical particles
then life would not have existed.
The design of the universe is too complex, too sophisticated for it to have started on a random chance in a random time and not by some sort of planned design.
laughingleapard
12-28-2008, 01:07 AM
Its only random cause it happened. If we were off by one we would not be around to ponder that thought. So what if its random, all because its random and unlikely doesnt mean it isnt possible.
Sarai
12-28-2008, 01:11 AM
Do you know how insignificantly small number that is in mathematics and science?
Yet if we missed that small little number, we would be non-existant.
It may be possible it was random.
But a very, very, very x googleplex slim, slim chance.
It just has to be a random chance that the universe is also flat too?
laughingleapard
12-28-2008, 01:18 AM
What does is matter if its a small percent chance. Its still possible. Does it make sence that there is a force leading us somewhere? Yes, but that is only because we lack any real other explanation. Humanity has a need for explanation and if history shows anything when they have no other proof they grasp onto religion. Religion is a lack of answers. As I said, if its possible, it can happen, doesnt matter the odds, its still possible! We are hanging by a thread. Its that simple, it happened. 1/100000000.
Dpballer
12-28-2008, 01:34 AM
Where did the materials of life come from? Where did all the elements come from?
How did we truly form into beings?
The world may never know.
laughingleapard
12-28-2008, 01:36 AM
Thats the smartest thing anyone has said. The world may never know. Its impossible to tell whether or not god exists. For every argument for either side theres a counter argument. Proving the exisiting of God is an impossible task.
Dpballer
12-28-2008, 01:39 AM
Well, of course it's the smartest thing anyone said. Everyone has been to busy saying their beliefs and yadda yadda. Haven't you ever wondered if life is just a lie and we are apart of some experiment? If we are just a universe inside another lively huge one? If we are just in a dream and never waking up until we die? It's really something I question everyday.
laughingleapard
12-28-2008, 01:41 AM
Now your just getting trippy. But our existence and the existence of everything is a fragile balancing act. Its something Ive excpeted.
Death
12-28-2008, 01:45 AM
I'm not trying to sound crazy. I'm just saying what pops in my head when I think about it. But yeah, I do believe we have some part of something important to happen in the future.
poe101591
12-28-2008, 01:52 AM
You misinterpret the Bible as a book to actually not even understand it.
The Bible are assortments of chapters known as "books" of witnesses to God's acts or the men of God acting in faith. It wasn't organized by a writers group like Nancy Drew's author(s), it's from different time periods WHICH was proven by Science.
By the way...Christianity didn't make religion, there were many religions before it.
To Life: Life, I do not assume, no presume, to know that God is there.
Faith and understanding of some of the concepts of the Bible and the religion itself from outside sources are what makes up my own personal belief in God.
What do you want to hear, Life? Another outrageous claim of existence of God in your eyes or something you might possibly never believe in anyway? Proof for human eyes are eluding and difficult. You and I have heard all the arguements, theories, and reviewed the Bible and other sources on the existence and acts of God. I cannot possibly tell you anything furthermore unless I try to come up with my own "proof".
The matter of God cannot be disproven or proven on the human level of logic and science. It can only be fought over at an equilburilium.
Nevertheless how a one entity be so omniscient? At times even in the Bible, God is not omniscient. He focuses only on one nation or a group then moves onto the next and so on. Look at the example of the birth of Samuel.
God just then HEARD of Samuel's mother praying day and night in the temple which gives a hint that he is not altogether omniscient.
Actually the bible was organized by the Church, in organizing the bible, they saw fit to leave some stories out that was 'not becoming' of Jesus.
But I agree with the second part of your post. <.<
EDIT: you can't prove, or disprove God, the idea of God/and or God lies outside of any realm that humans can travel(no I'm not talking about Dimensions). Its like trying to disprove ghost, you can't. But yet you can't prove it either.
airsoftman03
12-28-2008, 02:02 AM
Yes, i believe God exists.
Here, for all you big bang theory people out there:
set watch parts on a table. wait for about... say... a "billion" years (so you say).
Do you think that over that span of time a watch will be created?
Same thing with the world.
Ladies and gentlemen, theres your proof that there's no big bang. Now for God
- Bible
-Dead Sea Scrolls
- moral absolutes
- historical evidence
And, here's an important one:
How can you look at the world and say that say that it was all made by chance or accident? a great art must have a great artist <--- lol famous saying
and if this is all an accident... what is the point of life or living? why get a job? why care for your kids (which you'll have later on), why shouldnt it just be a dog eat dog world, and last man standing is ruler?
Nahhh... there's always a purpose
This has been a deep discussion by me. Enjoy it while it lasts
Just because you say NOT A DEBATE, doesn't mean its not. If i walk into downtown fully nude, with "I'm not nude" written on my chest, i'm still nude.
Go to invisionfree, take 15 seconds to create your own forum, and debate this until your fingers fall off. Just keep it off pawn.
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