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hawkman4321
12-03-2008, 11:00 PM
alright i think this shud be a good poll. Graf art: art or crime? personally, i love graf art. i will actually take pics of them and post them online. i am even angered when paint over it. its not hurting anything! i am even considering doin my own graf work. if that makes me a criminal, good. when i get the paint 2 do it, ill post it 4 u all 2 c, but 4 now, lets hear your opinoins on Graf ART.:)

Twilly
12-03-2008, 11:01 PM
So you wouldn't mind someone going to your house and making art on your wall.

M1dnightCobra
12-03-2008, 11:03 PM
i wouldnt mind as long as it looks good...lol


and it's pretty much both because....

graffiti is art...

but it is a crime for doing stuff on property thats not yours...its called vandelism and tresspassing...

Calisniper13
12-03-2008, 11:03 PM
I see a lot of crazy graffiti out here in LA. It livens up crappy white walls to say the least.

outlaw
12-03-2008, 11:06 PM
Graffiti > Blank walls.

Mexamerican
12-03-2008, 11:08 PM
I Think It Depends Where It Is Tagged On But I Think Its Art Because It Doesnt Hurt Nobody and It Looks Good EXMP:http://i35.tinypic.com/6qwtn6.jpg

Dylan
12-03-2008, 11:10 PM
Art.


As long as it isn't like on a corporate building.
Anything that looks trashy and got spiffed up by graffiti is not crime IMO.
It's doing the owner a favor.
>.>

hawkman4321
12-03-2008, 11:20 PM
So you wouldn't mind someone going to your house and making art on your wall.

to be honest, iwouldnt care, and if it looked good enough, id even pay them 4 it:D
i think graffiti makes u feel a freedom u dont get until u do it, which i have. your heart beats fast,adrenaline pumping as u write your feelings across the lifeless white wall. it makes u feel impowered and unstopable. after i graffed, i felt i could take a knife in the chest and walk out okay. its a amazing feeling...close 2 undiscribeable
graffiti is also a big part of our culture, whether u admit it or not

Hamo
12-03-2008, 11:23 PM
It is art but it is a crime if you do it in the wrong spot. Here in melboune it is aloud in certain areas and it it considered art. but melbourne is a werid place.

poe101591
12-03-2008, 11:26 PM
I think it depends on what you paint <.<

If you get what I'm saying

buffoldguy
12-03-2008, 11:34 PM
If graffiti was performed on private property, it is considered vandalism therefore being a crime. However, if its not on private property, its not a crime

HWV
12-03-2008, 11:37 PM
Crime.

Keep it to paper/canvas or become a professional mural painter. No need to sneak around doing stuff that people don't want you to do in the name of "art". 99.9% of the population thinks graffiti is detestable, so why even bother anyway? Keep your art to a demographic of people that respect it instead of forcing it upon everyone's eyes.

Nightmare
12-03-2008, 11:37 PM
if its a tag or sumthing stupid its a crime. and since the government tell you not to, and have to spend money to have it removed ill stick with crime. >.>

hawkman4321
12-03-2008, 11:40 PM
well it seems that most people see it as a crime, but that wont stop people like me frim doing it,unforunatly

poe101591
12-03-2008, 11:44 PM
There are some owners that let people graffiti on the out side of the building as long as it is tasteful, and there are some place that have walls just for artist to use.

outlaw
12-03-2008, 11:46 PM
Just think of it as a way to be self expressive.

37
12-03-2008, 11:55 PM
art. art. art

Hamo
12-04-2008, 12:01 AM
Your countries must be so boring. It is not such a crime here like i said before. Some areas you can do it. Some graphiti is heritage listed and can be removed also because of the murders and things that took place and they are still using it as evidence of somthing.
But yea melbourne alows it but if its like not appropraite you get a fine and in a restricted area.

Nightmare
12-04-2008, 12:29 AM
if someone wants it there then its not bad. around here if you do it you go to jail. period. one dude doing it got caught by an old man. he killed the old man. since then any graffiti artists are arrested. thanks to some little punk idiot >.>

EaEaEa
12-04-2008, 07:20 AM
If it is meant to be art, then it is.

WhiteRanger
12-04-2008, 08:27 AM
Im a graffiti Artist, personally, no its not crime, i draw every where lol, my graff ownz.

LooZr66
12-04-2008, 08:28 AM
both...mostly art...depending on what it is...grafitti doesnt look bad, unless its like gang stuff, but "white" people (cops, governemt, etc.) don't know what they are...so yea grafitti is an art (:


-NO RASICM INTENDED-

deathrogue
12-04-2008, 09:12 AM
To me, it's both. I've done graffiti for like... 2 months or more I forgot cause I haven't done it in a while. There are legal places in the world where you can tag on the walls but most places are illegal. It's art if you do it on paper or on legal places but a crime to break the rules: Tagging in illegal places. It costs clean up people to remove them or the person who gets caught in doing the act.

Killerrrrrr
12-04-2008, 03:27 PM
Art if you have permission.

Crime if you don't have permission.

farfarswe
12-04-2008, 03:30 PM
Me too im is a graffiti man. can u show me your skiss ?
Ps. 1 time im busted ;)

hawkman4321
12-04-2008, 03:41 PM
Im a graffiti Artist, personally, no its not crime, i draw every where lol, my graff ownz.

kool dude if u got any pics of em post em

CMD1
12-04-2008, 04:21 PM
It depends on where you live. Because every place has it's own laws and rules. But personally, I think it's both.

lilcuriousdude7
12-04-2008, 04:27 PM
art

a way to express ur self it look cool :D
its just a new way ppl now expresss them seves besides music..
well i went to NYC by train ffrom NJ and i saw alot of graffiti in the tunnels
i personally liked it cuz it kept me occupied and some of it was really good :D
we should have a section for this in art class to learn graffiti :D

Galm
12-04-2008, 05:27 PM
Graffiti.
It's a crime.

Real art is done with sculptures, and on paper.
NOT public property.

gangstagoob
12-04-2008, 05:34 PM
Its a crime if you do it, it calles for life in prison if anyone even thinks of doing it of yourmom or your grandma, cuz thats just wrong! :D:D:D

Killah
12-04-2008, 05:36 PM
It's art, if it's not on a paid property, it's art.

Bonk
12-04-2008, 05:57 PM
Im a graffiti Artist, personally, no its not crime, i draw every where lol, my graff ownz.

Picks nao!!!

Eiliosdraye
12-04-2008, 07:42 PM
I hate graffiti, it's one of the worst types of crimes - the ones with little value, so you think it's fine to do. The next thing you know you're tagging for some gang, then you're stealing, assault, robbery, and jail.

It happened to one of my classmates. He got put in jail for a month because he got into some gang.


Besides, most of the graffiti here where I live is some moron making an ugly logo for their gang, or people writing swears in big bubble text. If the grafitti where I lived actually looked good I might consider it bearable, but no, it's like a piece of trash in the middle of a finely cut yard.

Dylan
12-05-2008, 02:26 AM
http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/fail-owned-washington-mutual-graffiti-fail.png?w=500&h=363

hawkman4321
12-05-2008, 06:49 PM
I hate graffiti, it's one of the worst types of crimes - the ones with little value, so you think it's fine to do. The next thing you know you're tagging for some gang, then you're stealing, assault, robbery, and jail.

It happened to one of my classmates. He got put in jail for a month because he got into some gang.


Besides, most of the graffiti here where I live is some moron making an ugly logo for their gang, or people writing swears in big bubble text. If the grafitti where I lived actually looked good I might consider it bearable, but no, it's like a piece of trash in the middle of a finely cut yard.

not all gangs r bad dude. they dont all do assault or robbery but the main reason gangs r made or people join them is becasue they have bad parents or no friends and will do anything 2 be accepted or loved
i know wat u mean about bad graffiti tho. its people just gettin up and they dont no wat they doin also called "toys" they make the worst types of graffiti and thats the one of reason people dont like it

Hurrikhayne11
12-05-2008, 06:57 PM
this question interests me.. but it's art, and bad.
it's a form of vandalism, but it also looks great the majority of the time.
unless it is allowed, i consider it vandalism.

whynotman
12-05-2008, 06:58 PM
Most of the work looks really good. But i wouldent like if someone did it on my place.

IrishDragon1234
12-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Depends on where you do it. And it also depends on what message your putting out. Most graffiti happens in big cities and is done my ghettos, and they're usually making graffiti about demoralizing stuff like rape and gang violence and crime and all that.

subliminal64
12-07-2008, 07:29 PM
graffiti is art only when its on a sheet of paper and its freakin cool!!!!just not on my house

platnum
12-07-2008, 07:36 PM
yes grafiti is a crime if it is done on someone's or the city's property so if you wanna make a grafiti mural doing on your house's walls

vSkyzv
12-07-2008, 08:28 PM
It depends on the circumstances.

hawkman4321
12-07-2008, 08:54 PM
wierd...
i was drivin in downtown cleveland and 4 the first time noticed how much graffiti there was where i live. and it looked really good. i wanna learn how these guys get in these heavan spots. there always in the perfect place where you would normally look but then u look and there the graffiti.

awsome

maggerz
12-08-2008, 03:22 AM
I say it's art, we don't have lots of designated areas here, and besides most of our "graffiti" is just lots of swear words or soccer team cheers. But i think we have a guy, Mahmoud Barakat who qualified as a professional.

Still, i would really be pissed if someone sprayed KOS OMAK on my wall. (means your moms thingy)

platnum
12-08-2008, 01:08 PM
it also depends on were you live too then cause most of the graffiti around my neighborhood is gang or crew related

robodestructo
12-08-2008, 08:11 PM
art but crime

if your doing it withough permission its vandalism but so is drawing the Mona Lisa on your neighbors wall

airsoftman03
12-08-2008, 08:15 PM
Graffiti is not always a crime. Its a crime if its on private properry/ government owned property. Its not legal to right PUFFER SUCKS on a broken down train, but its legal to do it on your own property: if ur an idiot.

Btw, Puff i was usin you as example ;)

blazin1123
12-09-2008, 12:21 AM
well theres no denying its a crime its defacing public and private property but its still art

Knux57
12-09-2008, 01:22 AM
Art .

blazin1123
12-09-2008, 01:24 AM
rely u think so???