Marines THREW a small dog off a cliff.

[Dylan]

DO NOT TELL EM THIS BELONGS IN VIDEO SECTION, THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE TOPIC IS THE FACT THEY DID IT, NOT THE VIDEO!








Anyways.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=621_1204615429



The debate is: What do you think you would have done if you were the soldier?
A bystander?

What is your opinion on this, is it completely immoral, or was it moral?

[DaMan]

I WILL FREAKING MURDER THAT GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Dylan]

I WILL FREAKING MURDER THAT GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Explain why.

[Twilly]

THROW, not through.



T-H-R-O-W. :]

[Dylan]

THROW, not through.



T-H-R-O-W. :]
Holy God I'm laughing at how stupid I am...

[DaMan]

Explain why.
DON'T KILL PUPPY'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope that guy gets shot. He doesn't deserve to be in the Marines if he is gonna throw a small and cute puppy off a freaking cliff.

I will go to Iraq myself and shoot him in the face, I'll say the trigger slipped. >_>

[Dylan]

DON'T KILL PUPPY'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope that guy gets shot. He doesn't deserve to be in the Marines if he is gonna throw a small and cute puppy off a freaking cliff.

I will go to Iraq myself and shoot him in the face, I'll say the trigger slipped. >_>
Explain why you think it is wrong to kill something that is incapable of hopes and dreams, has no morals, and was created a brute?
Is it wrong and immoral to use hand sanitizer because it kills small organisms that have no morals, no hopes, no dreams, and was created a brute?

[maggerz]

Damn, that is one mean little SOB.
Poor little puppy, you can hear his yelps.

[Galm]

That's gotta be fake..!

No way is that real..

If it's real, I'd kill that guy..It's cruel, and just, so immoral...
I actually feel quite sick now I've seen this :(:(

It's like...I've just seen a friend get shot dead..:(

[DaMan]

Explain why you think it is wrong to kill something that is incapable of hopes and dreams, has no morals, and was created a brute?
I'm gonna throw you off a cliff.

Dogs have feeling too. And that dog was very cute and that mofo killed him.

[Ryuk]

I come from a country that EATS dogs. <.<
If we treat cows, pigs, and chickens like something to be consumed, why do dogs deserve anything less?

[Dylan]

I'm gonna throw you off a cliff.

Dogs have feeling too. And that dog was very cute and that mofo killed him.
Dogs are like bacteria, they cannot hope, they cannot dream, they are both small, by your theory every time I kill a bacteria, you should throw me off a cliff.

[SketchZ]

If that dog is real, that is just inhumane and cruel.

[Dylan]

If that dog is real, that is just inhumane and cruel.
Do you use soap?
You kill more species that are exactly like dogs a day than that.
But dogs are bigger and cuter that changes your opinion does it?
EDIT:BTW: Thanks for changing my title :D
Through a dag lmfao...

[buffoldguy]

You're a few months late there buddy

I come from a country that EATS dogs. <.<
If we treat cows, pigs, and chickens like something to be consumed, why do dogs deserve anything less?

By any chance are you filipino? :D

[Dylan]

You're a few months late there buddy



By any chance are you filipino? :D
I never hear news that's current.
Lol.

And here's a thought for you guys that use soap and think this is immoral.


Does your opinion on right to live a life change on a biological entity because of how cute it is?
Because if you do, you are the immoral one.

[Ryuk]

You're a few months late there buddy



By any chance are you filipino? :D
Ehhh, close, Chinese. :)

If anyone here is a carnivore, I don't think you have the right to decide if killing a small dog is morally sound.

[poe101591]

Dogs are like bacteria, they cannot hope, they cannot dream, they are both small, by your theory every time I kill a bacteria, you should throw me off a cliff.

mmmmmm dog......probably something that I'll never try to eat xD

anyways I could care less if he through a dog,cat,fish of the cliff <.<

[DaMan]

I never hear news that's current.
Lol.

And here's a thought for you guys that use soap and think this is immoral.


Does your opinion on right to live a life change on a biological entity because of how cute it is?
Because if you do, you are the immoral one.
First of all I don't use soap. >_>

Second of all yes it does. Some hot chick dies "oh that's a shame". Some ugly hobo dies who would know?

:eek:

[Dylan]

mmmmmm dog......probably something that I'll never try to eat xD

anyways I could care less if he through a dog,cat,fish of the cliff <.<
Poe is correct.
We eat fish, Chinese eat dogs, we eat cows, what's the difference in Tysons slaughter house of chickens where they die slower deaths or a puppy that died a quick painless death?

First of all I don't use soap. >_>

Second of all yes it does. Some hot chick dies "oh that's a shame". Some ugly hobo dies who would know?

:eek:
You never wash anything?
A car, yourself?

Exactly true also, if you are sad ebcause soemone you know dies, and aren't sad because someone you don't knwo died, your selfish, you are only sad because YOU will never see them again, and if your not sad that someone else died, your not thinkign about their family's, you aren't thinking about them at all, only you.

[LETSgoTACObell]

Atleast it wasn't a kitten. Kittens pwn. Back on topic now, this dude does deserve to get kicked out of the marines. Kittens > Puppies > DaMan > that marine.

[Ryuk]

Oh, right Daman. I'm guessing that you're like most people that consume meat.

Oh, it's just a few chickens and cows that were killed, that's not too bad. <.<

[DaMan]

Oh, right Daman. I'm guessing that you're like most people that consume meat.

Cows already dead. Me not eating him aint gonna change a thing.

[Dylan]

Oh, right Daman. I'm guessing that you're like most people that consume meat.

Oh, it's just a few chickens and cows that were killed, that's not too bad. <.<
Yes, and he also pretty much said it's wrong because of it's cuteness and size.
Cows are bigger than puppies, should we all stop eating steak?
No, you would not stop eating steak.
Face it, killing a puppy quickly is more moral than slowly killing a cow and selling it for profit.

[Dylan]

Cows already dead. Me not eating him aint gonna change a thing.
So, if you saw the dog dead, you would eat him because it wont change a thing?
You gonna cook up some road kill?
It wont change anything.

[Ryuk]

However, they only slaughter cows, because there is a demand for meat by all the carnivores. Consumers, like you, spur on their industry.

[DaMan]

Yes, and he also pretty much said it's wrong because of it's cuteness and size.
Cows are bigger than puppies, should we all stop eating steak?
No, you would not stop eating steak.
Face it, killing a puppy quickly is more moral than slowly killing a cow and selling it for profit.
Most cows are already about to die before they are made in to food.

Veal is different. I don't eat baby cows.

[Dylan]

However, they only slaughter cows, because there is a demand for meat by all the carnivores. Consumers, like you, spur on their industry.
Exactly, you eat Tyson chicken, your eating a chicken that was tortured so more adrenaline would secrete and therefore taste better.
Most cows are already about to die before they are made in to food.

Veal is different. I don't eat baby cows.
You seriously are one messed up dude.

You will eat a cow, but not a baby cow?
Your going to eat something because of it's age now?
You are biologically discriminant in MANY, MANY ways.

[poe101591]

Cows already dead. Me not eating him aint gonna change a thing.

yes, and the fact that you want the marine to die won't change a thing will it?

Most cows are already about to die before they are made in to food.

Veal is different. I don't eat baby cows.

yea they are about to die, that is kinda how it works......they enter and don't leave, therefore 'about' to die.

[Ryuk]

Most cows are already about to die before they are made in to food.

Veal is different. I don't eat baby cows.
If you become a vegetarian, you are making a statement that killing animals, no matter what kind of animal they are, is wrong. Instead, you eat the meat thinking that they are already going to die and you might as well make use of them. That is not true. Companies live on consumers. The less consumers there are, the less animals that are slaughtered.

[poe101591]

I WILL FREAKING MURDER THAT GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I found this, DaMan let me tell you right now, that won't change a thing

Exactly, you eat Tyson chicken, your eating a chicken that was tortured so more adrenaline would secrete and therefore taste better.

omfg stop talking about that chicken! Its making me hungry :(
I just finished that bag off last night, and its like crack o.O

[Dylan]

If you become a vegetarian, you are making a statement that killing animals, no matter what kind of animal they are, is wrong. Instead, you eat the meat thinking that they are already going to die and you might as well make use of them. That is not true. Companies live on consumers. The less consumers there are, the less animals that are slaughtered.
True.
I personally love steak.
Steak is the best food there is.
Period.
I eat it often as possible.
I love almost all meats, but the fact is, animals have no rights, and if you think they do, post why.

[G0dSpE3dZ3r0]

This was on the news a while ago. But anyway....

I'D STAB THEM! STAB THEM TO DEATH WITH THEIR OWN POCKET KNIFE! I'D HACK THE BEATING HEART OUT OF THEIR CHEST AND SHOW IT TO THEIR FACE!!!! THEN I'D THROW IT DOWN THE CLIFF, and save the puppy.

[poe101591]

This was on the news a while ago. But anyway....

I'D STAB THEM! STAB THEM TO DEATH WITH THEIR OWN POCKET KNIFE! I'D HACK THE BEATING HEART OUT OF THEIR CHEST AND SHOW IT TO THEIR FACE!!!! THEN I'D THROW IT DOWN THE CLIFF, and save the puppy.

to late, puppy is dead

[Ryuk]

Despite my posts, I'm actually a meat eater myself. I'm just saying that if we so mindlessly kill animals for our diet, dogs should deserve no less.

[DS]

If you become a vegetarian, you are making a statement that killing animals, no matter what kind of animal they are, is wrong. Instead, you eat the meat thinking that they are already going to die and you might as well make use of them. That is not true. Companies live on consumers. The less consumers there are, the less animals that are slaughtered.
Animals eat other animals and humans are animals too. Also if it makes you happy they have organic food. They kill animals in ways it does not hurt them >.>.

[Dylan]

This was on the news a while ago. But anyway....

I'D STAB THEM! STAB THEM TO DEATH WITH THEIR OWN POCKET KNIFE! I'D HACK THE BEATING HEART OUT OF THEIR CHEST AND SHOW IT TO THEIR FACE!!!! THEN I'D THROW IT DOWN THE CLIFF, and save the puppy.
So, killing a mindless brute is worse than killing a human with hopes and dreams, that can feel love, that can show love, and that can one day achieve something?
to late, puppy is dead
Laughed.
Despite my posts, I'm actually a meat eater myself. I'm just saying that if we so mindlessly kill animals for our diet, dogs should deserve no less.
Same.
Me and you have the same exact point.

[poe101591]

Animals eat other animals and humans are animals too. Also if it makes you happy they have organic food. They kill animals in ways it does not hurt them >.>.

so if the animal doesn't feel the pain its ok?
how do you know the puppy didn't die with out pain?

[Ryuk]

Animals eat other animals and humans are animals too. Also if it makes you happy they have organic food. They kill animals in ways it does not hurt them >.>.
My problem with that is not that animals are dying, it's that some animals are considered "higher" than others. You can get all sort of hefty fines and everything from killing a dog, but you're allowed to mindlessly kill cows with no problems?

[poe101591]

My problem with that is not that animals are dying, it's that some animals are considered "higher" than others. You can get all sort of hefty fines and everything from killing a dog, but you're allowed to mindlessly kill cows with no problems?

cows and chickens, no one cares if you kill the chicken for tomorrows dinner =D

speaking of chicken, who had the turkey at thanksgiving, wasn't that the best?

[DS]

My problem with that is not that animals are dying, it's that some animals are considered "higher" than others. You can get all sort of hefty fines and everything from killing a dog, but you're allowed to mindlessly kill cows with no problems?
Probably because they're house pets.

[DaMan]

I found this, DaMan let me tell you right now, that won't change a thing

It would make me smile.

[Dylan]

My problem with that is not that animals are dying, it's that some animals are considered "higher" than others. You can get all sort of hefty fines and everything from killing a dog, but you're allowed to mindlessly kill cows with no problems?
Exactly.


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[poe101591]

Probably because they're house pets.

what makes it a house pet :|
i could have a chicken as a house pet, in fact i could have a turkey as a house pet.

It would make me smile.

so after you kill him, I shall kill you because it will put a smile on my face :)

and TheLife is that a stupid PEDA thing?

[Dylan]

what makes it a house pet :|
i could have a chicken as a house pet, in fact i could have a turkey as a house pet.



so after you kill him, I shall kill you because it will put a smile on my face :)

and TheLife is that a stupid PEDA thing?
No.
I'm asking if one was worse than the other.
Did you click them?
(It's pictures.)

[shooter65]

Dogs are mans best friend. :o

I love dogs. <.<

[CMD1]

[/COLOR]That's gotta be fake..!

No way is that real..

If it's real, I'd kill that guy..It's cruel, and just, so immoral...
I actually feel quite sick now I've seen this :(:(

It's like...I've just seen a friend get shot dead..:(Of course it was fake, would our military actually throw a dog? I can tell right when it hit the ground it dissapeared. And they don't curl up when you hold them in the tuff uf skin on the neck. It is faked. Not to be rude but it's called trick photagraphy.

[Ryuk]

Humans do not have the power to decide an animal's rank. We are not gods.

Chickens: You die
Dogs: You live

Cows: You die
Cats: You live

What makes you think we have the right to decide who we should burden with the force of death?

[CMD1]

Dude, cats are retarded. Go dogs. FTW.

[troll]

Sooooo ooollldddd.

[Ryuk]

Sooooo ooollldddd.
However, the morals of that event are something that will be discussed for a long, long time.

[UreOnMyHitList]

wow i couldnt watch it

they should be thrown off the cliff

[G0dSpE3dZ3r0]

So, killing a mindless brute is worse than killing a human with hopes and dreams, that can feel love, that can show love, and that can one day achieve something?

But here's the difference, THAT PUPPY WAS CUTE!!! The soldiers that threw it off were just some messed up citizens that barely even passed the requirements needed to join the army. Oh, and wanna know their feelings?

Hopes: I don't wanna go to hell, I regret killing that puppy! Please, forgive me!

Dreams: Getting out of jail.

Loves: Killing anything that isn't human.

Showing Love: Killing the puppy.

Achievements: Having the 20 seconds of fun killing the puppy. After that 20 seconds, lands in a jail cell.

After the jail cell he's probably gonna land in a crack house.

[Ryuk]

But here's the difference, THAT PUPPY WAS CUTE!!! The soldiers that threw it off were just some messed up citizens that barely even passed the requirements needed to join the army. Oh, and wanna know their feelings?

Hopes: I don't wanna go to hell, I regret killing that puppy! Please, forgive me!

Dreams: Getting out of jail.

Loves: Killing anything that isn't human.

Showing Love: Killing the puppy.

Achievements: Having the 20 seconds of fun killing the puppy. After that 20 seconds, lands in a jail cell.

After the jail cell he's probably gonna land in a crack house.
So, what about an ugly puppy? <.<

[poe101591]

Dogs are mans best friend. :o

I love dogs. <.<

well marines best friends is his gun <.< i guess the video proves that


and TheLife i disapprove of mindless torture but there isn't really anything you can do about it, people do stuff, that's that.

Marine shouldn't have thrown the puppy off the cliff, but it happened, not much you can do. Person tortured cat, it happened, nothing much you can do. Now the top pic is more or less speculation, I really can't tell what happened in it, could have been torture, could have been landmine, could have been something else. But it was probably caused by people, there really isn't much you can do about it.


Where as my argument for this thread doesn't lie in that its wrong, or right, it lies in stuff happens. But to value the life of something over something else is in itself wrong.

[Dylan]

[/color]Of course it was fake, would our military actually throw a dog? I can tell right when it hit the ground it dissapeared. And they don't curl up when you hold them in the tuff uf skin on the neck. It is faked. Not to be rude but it's called trick photagraphy.
Not be rude, but where the hell have you been?
It was on the news, yes, I'm so freakin' sure that our news stations would portray this and say it's real if it was fake, think before you post.
Humans do not have the power to decide an animal's rank. We are not gods.

Chickens: You die
Dogs: You live

Cows: You die
Cats: You live

What makes you think we have the right to decide who we should burden with the force of death?
Exactly, anyone that thinks cows can't live but dogs can is trying to play God, saying who lives and who doesn't.
Dude, cats are retarded. Go dogs. FTW.
Stop spamming...
Sooooo ooollldddd.
Been posted already, and I answered it.
Isn't reposting what's already been posted spam?

[iceman247]

Thats pretty f'd up aint it? I thought they could keep the dogs...

[Dylan]

But here's the difference, THAT PUPPY WAS CUTE!!! The soldiers that threw it off were just some messed up citizens that barely even passed the requirements needed to join the army. Oh, and wanna know their feelings?

Hopes: I don't wanna go to hell, I regret killing that puppy! Please, forgive me!

Dreams: Getting out of jail.

Loves: Killing anything that isn't human.

Showing Love: Killing the puppy.

Achievements: Having the 20 seconds of fun killing the puppy. After that 20 seconds, lands in a jail cell.

After the jail cell he's probably gonna land in a crack house.
You base rights to live on cuteness?
You are immoral, you pretty much said because the dog was cute, he suddenly has rights.
That's what I calla "ignorant 5 year olds opoint of view."

[poe101591]

[/COLOR]Of course it was fake, would our military actually throw a dog? I can tell right when it hit the ground it dissapeared. And they don't curl up when you hold them in the tuff uf skin on the neck. It is faked. Not to be rude but it's called trick photagraphy.

there was recently in the state of north Carolina a case where a police officer abused his police dog, the police department suspended him, and tried to fire him. Now here is where it gets tricky, he took the department to court on the fact that he was wrongfully fired, he won.

A mans positions will never state if he can or can't do something.

Sooooo ooollldddd.

some one made that post about it <.< i'm sure TheLife has already said it, but if we are going to just copy each others post, why not say it again :D

But here's the difference, THAT PUPPY WAS CUTE!!! The soldiers that threw it off were just some messed up citizens that barely even passed the requirements needed to join the army. Oh, and wanna know their feelings?

Hopes: I don't wanna go to hell, I regret killing that puppy! Please, forgive me!

Dreams: Getting out of jail.

Loves: Killing anything that isn't human.

Showing Love: Killing the puppy.

Achievements: Having the 20 seconds of fun killing the puppy. After that 20 seconds, lands in a jail cell.

After the jail cell he's probably gonna land in a crack house.

you totally know his life story D:
actually i don't think the puppy was that cute <.<

[G0dSpE3dZ3r0]

So, what about an ugly puppy? <.<

Ok, well first of all, post a picture of an ugly puppy that would be small enough to fit in a marine's hand, and would be light enough to be thrown the distance from about my house to the grocery store which is about a quarter of a block away. Then I'll answer the question.

[CreditWANG]

Lawl, can't wait to destroy you assholes.

Bacteria is a substance that could harm you. If the soldier was threatened heavily by the dog, maybe, but REAAAAAAAAAAAALY?

Also; COWS...

Cows are good for substance food... i.e. steak etc.

You're saying that eating substance food from cows is the same as killing a dog?

Two different manners.

Cows are killed to eat. This dog was thrown off a cliff and while going down probably went crazy then possibly hit it's head on the ground and die instantly or bled to death. We don't ******* drop cows off a cliff and eat them, do we? No; Because it's inhumane.


P.S. I'm waiting.

[CMD1]

Exactly.


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WTF. The asians killed the cats. I think it was chinese writing on that disk. That was disgusting. I am not going to eat meat for a while.

[poe101591]

Ok, well first of all, post a picture of an ugly puppy that would be small enough to fit in a marine's hand, and would be light enough to be thrown the distance from about my house to the grocery store which is about a quarter of a block away. Then I'll answer the question.

uummm I consider the puppy in the video not even cute...so can i use that one?

[Ryuk]

Lawl, can't wait to destroy you assholes.

Bacteria is a substance that could harm you. If the soldier was threatened heavily by the dog, maybe, but REAAAAAAAAAAAALY?

Also; COWS...

Cows are good for substance food... i.e. steak etc.

You're saying that eating substance food from cows is the same as killing a dog?

Two different manners.

Cows are killed to eat. This dog was thrown off a cliff and while going down probably went crazy then possibly hit it's head on the ground and die instantly or bled to death. We don't ******* drop cows off a cliff and eat them, do we? No; Because it's inhumane.


P.S. I'm waiting.
Well, let me ask you something, do people have to eat meat?
Nutritionally vegetarians can still get plenty of protein and iron from other foods. In fact, vegetarians are usually healthier because of the lack of too much fat in their diet.

[poe101591]

Lawl, can't wait to destroy you assholes.

Bacteria is a substance that could harm you. If the soldier was threatened heavily by the dog, maybe, but REAAAAAAAAAAAALY?

Also; COWS...

Cows are good for substance food... i.e. steak etc.

You're saying that eating substance food from cows is the same as killing a dog?

Two different manners.

Cows are killed to eat. This dog was thrown off a cliff and while going down probably went crazy then possibly hit it's head on the ground and die instantly or bled to death. We don't ******* drop cows off a cliff and eat them, do we? No; Because it's inhumane.


P.S. I'm waiting.

most bacteria is harmless to you :|
and SOMETHING did eat the dog after death, you can be asured of that.

[CMD1]

I'm so freakin' sure that our news stations would portray this and say it's real if it was fake
Not with today's liberal media. Today, the news would put anything on the news. Like Obama craping his pants at a speach, or a guy from Mexico eating a dead rat.

[G0dSpE3dZ3r0]

uummm I consider the puppy in the video not even cute...so can i use that one?

Um....... ok a different puppy. Then I'll answer. BTW: it was somewhat cute.

[Ryuk]

Inhuman this, inhuman that. Blah, Blah, Blah.
The one thing I hate about humans in general is their moral stances.
The bottom line is, we are all animals, so we don't have to act so highly. <.<

[Dylan]

Lawl, can't wait to destroy you assholes.
I can't either.
Bacteria is a substance that could harm you. If the soldier was threatened heavily by the dog, maybe, but REAAAAAAAAAAAALY?
Harmless bacteria get's destroyed all the time every day by you.
Do you use sanitizer?
Do you wash your self?
Do you ever mop a floor?
Not all bacteria is harmful.
Most bacteria is helpful.
Did you knwo they make cheese out of bacteria?
Most dairy foods are made of bacteria.

Also; COWS...

Cows are good for substance food... i.e. steak etc.

You're saying that eating substance food from cows is the same as killing a dog?
Dogs are substance foods in China and other countries.
Grasshoppers are substance foods in Smaller countries, and in cannibal Islands, humans are substance foods.
People lost in deserts eat camels after they die, and sometimes use them for shelter, IE, cutting a hole in it's stomach and climbing in.
Immoral?
No.
Two different manners.

Cows are killed to eat. This dog was thrown off a cliff and while going down probably went crazy then possibly hit it's head on the ground and die instantly or bled to death. We don't ******* drop cows off a cliff and eat them, do we? No; Because it's inhumane.
No, they literally make cows live insanely painful lives by injecting them with steroids, and killing them slowly as to release adrenaline to add flavor.
The dog died isntatly.
Which is more inhumane?

P.S. I'm waiting.
I'm waiting for a REAL argument.
replies in red.

[DaMan]

Well, let me ask you something, do people have to eat meat?
Nutritionally vegetarians can still get plenty of protein and iron from other foods. In fact, vegetarians are usually healthier because of the lack of too much fat in their diet.
Your veggies come from plants. Plants are living things. Sure they don't move or anything but there living things too.
So you vegetarians are saying that plants don't count as living things?

hmm

[Dylan]

Your veggies come from plants. Plants are living things. Sure they don't move or anything but there living things too.
So you vegetarians are saying that plants don't count as living things?

hmm
Neither of us are vegetarians, at least read something before attempting to start your own debate.
Steak is my all time favorite food.

[poe101591]

Um....... ok a different puppy. Then I'll answer. BTW: it was somewhat cute.

you forgot to add one little thing, that thing would be 'in my opinion'. See words like cute, beauty, ugly, well they are all words that only can be used in your opinion. What if i was to tell you that i found the black and white coloration of the dog completely appalling? Its in my opinion, you can't say that the puppy was to cute for death, because that is in your opinion, it was obvious that the marine didn't find it that cute.

[DaMan]

Neither of us are vegetarians, at least read something before attempting to start your own debate.
Steak is my all time favorite food.
Your talking like vegetarians.
Saying killing animals for food is cruel. But you never say that killing plants for food is wrong. Your contradicting yourself.

[Ryuk]

Your veggies come from plants. Plants are living things. Sure they don't move or anything but there living things too.
So you vegetarians are saying that plants don't count as living things?

hmm
lawl, not a vegetarian btw.

I'm saying that we eat and kill numerous animals and lifeforms everyday. Like you said, even vegetarians kill living beings.

Fun fact: Despite what you might think, whenever you consume food, you kill something.

We are killing so many lifeforms but all of a sudden we decide to grant immunity to some of the animals?

[Dylan]

Your talking like vegetarians.
Saying killing animals for food is cruel. But you never say that killing plants for food is wrong. Your contradicting yourself.
Are you completely ignoring everything I type?
I said animals have no rights, the other people are typing that only SOME animals should be eaten, when if ONE animal can be eaten, ALL animals can be eaten.
How is that talking like a veg-head?

[poe101591]

Your veggies come from plants. Plants are living things. Sure they don't move or anything but there living things too.
So you vegetarians are saying that plants don't count as living things?

hmm

I think must vegetarians are retarded, in the fact that they say "killing a living thing is wrong!" but yet they eat plants, are plants not living in their eyes?

[CreditWANG]

Well, let me ask you something, do people have to eat meat?
Nutritionally vegetarians can still get plenty of protein and iron from other foods. In fact, vegetarians are usually healthier because of the lack of too much fat in their diet.

haha...

Wow

Despite being a vegetarian or not, your diet must consist of balance, moderation, and variety. Meat provides vital protein that you need; Plus, your position on fat is correct, but also it has some flaws in it. Being a vegetarian probably provokes more of a green based diet for sure. Yet, this can also produce some problems for most. I.e. cookies, cake, and other fattening foods on a more-than-regular basis. If you're worried about fatty-intake, see a doctor my friend. Doctors can help you see if you're in-taking too much fat and if you should be exercising more, or if you're fine... And before you pick at me, yes I realize that vegetarians can still get plenty of protien and irons from foods... Of course they can, with eating lots more of the same "healthy" food. To get moderately close to the substance you get out of meat, you're going to get too many calories and... *Bloat*... Then again, I hence you're probably fat, and therefore understand...

go

[Dylan]

I think must vegetarians are retarded, in the fact that they say "killing a living thing is wrong!" but yet they eat plants, are plants not living in their eyes?
True, let's cut a plant at the neck and eat it's food receptors, were being healthy to the environment!

[DaMan]

I think we can all agree that vegetarians are idiots. :)

[CreditWANG]

Let me just win this **** already


Let me drop you off a cliff, okay?


/thread

[Dylan]

haha...

Wow

Despite being a vegetarian or not, your diet must consist of balance, moderation, and variety. Meat provides vital protein that you need; Plus, your position on fat is correct, but also it has some flaws in it. Being a vegetarian probably provokes more of a green based diet for sure. Yet, this can also produce some problems for most. I.e. cookies, cake, and other fattening foods on a more-than-regular basis. If you're worried about fatty-intake, see a doctor my friend. Doctors can help you see if you're in-taking too much fat and if you should be exercising more, or if you're fine... And before you pick at me, yes I realize that vegetarians can still get plenty of protien and irons from foods... Of course they can, with eating lots more of the same "healthy" food. To get moderately close to the substance you get out of meat, you're going to get too many calories and... *Bloat*... Then again, I hence you're probably fat, and therefore understand...

go
Lawl, can't wait to destroy you assholes.
I can't either.
Bacteria is a substance that could harm you. If the soldier was threatened heavily by the dog, maybe, but REAAAAAAAAAAAALY?
Harmless bacteria get's destroyed all the time every day by you.
Do you use sanitizer?
Do you wash your self?
Do you ever mop a floor?
Not all bacteria is harmful.
Most bacteria is helpful.
Did you knwo they make cheese out of bacteria?
Most dairy foods are made of bacteria.

Also; COWS...

Cows are good for substance food... i.e. steak etc.

You're saying that eating substance food from cows is the same as killing a dog?
Dogs are substance foods in China and other countries.
Grasshoppers are substance foods in Smaller countries, and in cannibal Islands, humans are substance foods.
People lost in deserts eat camels after they die, and sometimes use them for shelter, IE, cutting a hole in it's stomach and climbing in.
Immoral?
No.
Two different manners.

Cows are killed to eat. This dog was thrown off a cliff and while going down probably went crazy then possibly hit it's head on the ground and die instantly or bled to death. We don't ******* drop cows off a cliff and eat them, do we? No; Because it's inhumane.
No, they literally make cows live insanely painful lives by injecting them with steroids, and killing them slowly as to release adrenaline to add flavor.
The dog died isntatly.
Which is more inhumane?

P.S. I'm waiting.
I'm waiting for a REAL argument.



I notice you ignored my reply.
Who destroyed who?

[poe101591]

haha...

Wow

Despite being a vegetarian or not, your diet must consist of balance, moderation, and variety. Meat provides vital protein that you need; Plus, your position on fat is correct, but also it has some flaws in it. Being a vegetarian probably provokes more of a green based diet for sure. Yet, this can also produce some problems for most. I.e. cookies, cake, and other fattening foods on a more-than-regular basis. If you're worried about fatty-intake, see a doctor my friend. Doctors can help you see if you're in-taking too much fat and if you should be exercising more, or if you're fine... And before you pick at me, yes I realize that vegetarians can still get plenty of protien and irons from foods... Of course they can, with eating lots more of the same "healthy" food. To get moderately close to the substance you get out of meat, you're going to get too many calories and... *Bloat*... Then again, I hence you're probably fat, and therefore understand...

go

lol now when you scroll up and see that ryuk is not a vegetarian you will see that typing that was pointless.....ryuk was using the fact that people kill and eat cows as a example...

[Ryuk]

True, let's cut a plant at the neck and eat it's food receptors, were being healthy to the environment!
It is impossible to not kill something when you eat.
Calories, come from living organisms. All food has origins in other living lifeforms.

*something I just found out of my textbook

[Dylan]

Let me just win this **** already


Let me drop you off a cliff, okay?


/thread
Humans have rights, they can think for themselves, they can decide between right and wrong, they have self control, dogs cannot, they can NOT learn self control, what you call self control I call training, you teach them how to actually 100% be able to know the difference in love and who gives the best treats, or pets you more, or between right and wrong, and that is a dog I say has rights.

[poe101591]

I think we can all agree that vegetarians are idiots. :)

i agree, vegetarians just have a flawed logic system

Let me just win this **** already


Let me drop you off a cliff, okay?


/thread

so you think it was wrong for him to drop it off the cliff? Why again? and don't just quote your first post.

[Dylan]

i agree, vegetarians just have a flawed logic system



so you think it was wrong for him to drop it off the cliff? Why again? and don't just quote your first post.
I love how he says he can't wait to destroy us, then I destroy him and he ignores me.

[DaMan]

Humans have rights, they can think for themselves, they can decide between right and wrong, they have self control, dogs cannot, they can NOT learn self control, what you call self control I call training, you teach them how to actually 100% be able to know the difference in love and who gives the best treats, or pets you more, or between right and wrong, and that is a dog I say has rights.
Humans basically have training too. When we are babys we are just doing whatever and no self control. Our parents teach us to have control.

[Ryuk]

Well, if they are vegetarian to become more healthy, there are pretty smart people.
But if they're vegetarian because they don't want to kill a few cows, there are idiots. <.<
It is IMPOSSIBLE to eat without killing.

[Dylan]

Humans basically have training too. When we are babys we are just doing whatever and no self control. Our parents teach us to be human.
And dogs are incapable of fully understanding WHY.
Humans are.
Dogs cannot fathom WHY something is right or wrong, and whether it is right ro wrong.
Humans can.
Tell me, who taught the first human right or wrong?

[CreditWANG]

I can't either.
Bacteria is a substance that could harm you. If the soldier was threatened heavily by the dog, maybe, but REAAAAAAAAAAAALY?
Harmless bacteria get's destroyed all the time every day by you.
Do you use sanitizer?
Do you wash your self?
Do you ever mop a floor?
Not all bacteria is harmful.
Most bacteria is helpful.
Did you knwo they make cheese out of bacteria?
Most dairy foods are made of bacteria.

You're saying that eating substance food from cows is the same as killing a dog?
Dogs are substance foods in China and other countries.
Grasshoppers are substance foods in Smaller countries, and in cannibal Islands, humans are substance foods.
People lost in deserts eat camels after they die, and sometimes use them for shelter, IE, cutting a hole in it's stomach and climbing in.
Immoral?
No.

No, they literally make cows live insanely painful lives by injecting them with steroids, and killing them slowly as to release adrenaline to add flavor.
The dog died instantly
Which is more inhumane?

P.S. I'm waiting.
I'm waiting for a REAL argument.


I'm still waiting too!

@Bacteria. I agree with the statement you made. Bacteria outnumbers the goods than the bads. Yet if bacteria gets in fected it can cause a huge problem... dogs... uhhh... it looks like a ******* weiner dog to me.


If they ate the dog... and had nothing else to eat, okay, fine! But that isn't China. They were well supplied with food and it was a move made out of ignorance you fgt. Cows are injected so that they grow huge, and produce more meat, obviously. Well guess ******* what? We eat the meat. We don't inject them and them let them die and just bury them.

[DaMan]

And dogs are incapable of fully understanding WHY.
Humans are.
Dogs cannot fathom WHY something is right or wrong, and whether it is right ro wrong.
Humans can.
You have absolutely no way to prove that is true.

Are you a dog? No. You can't possible know.

[Ryuk]

Well, sure, go and try to throw me off a cliff. Too bad you can't.
You see, this is where human ego comes in. We view ourselves as "superior" lifeforms.
If you really think about it, we aren't that special. We share 99% of our DNA with monkeys! There are all sorts of laws punishing you for killing humans, but almost no laws punishing you for killing cows. You can try and kill me, but you would instantly be jailed up. I'm protected by those stupid laws. That is how stupid humans actually are, valuing themselves above all.

[Dylan]

I'm still waiting too!
mhm
@Bacteria. I agree with the statement you made. Bacteria outnumbers the goods than the bads. Yes, it does.Yet if bacteria gets in fected it can cause a huge problem...Explain...? Bacteria can not be infected, they can only be infectious.
ou make no sense. dogs... uhhh... it looks like a ******* weiner dog to me.What the hell?
So the type of dog determines whether it can die or live?


If they ate the dog... and had nothing else to eat, okay, fine! But that isn't China. They were well supplied with food and it was a move made out of ignorance you fgt.It was quick and painless death.
But I guess torturing chickens for adrenaline taste for more sales is so much better than a painless and fast death? Cows are injected so that they grow huge, and produce more meat, obviously. Well guess ******* what? We eat the meat. We don't inject them and them let them die and just bury them.Nope, we inject them, it's extremely painful, then they are released to get exercise, and roam a while, then they get barricaded up and get pumped with more steroids, then they get tortured and slowly die.
You make no sense.
Replies in red.

[poe101591]

And dogs are incapable of fully understanding WHY.
Humans are.
Dogs cannot fathom WHY something is right or wrong, and whether it is right ro wrong.
Humans can.
Tell me, who taught the first human right or wrong?

actually humans have a legal system to tell them what is right and wrong, if we all instantly know what it was, then we won't have jails, prisons and a Justice system

Well, sure, go and try to throw me off a cliff. Too bad you can't.
You see, this is where human ego comes in. We view ourselves as "superior" lifeforms.
If you really think about it, we aren't that special. We share 99% of our DNA with monkeys! There are all sorts of laws punishing you for killing humans, but almost no laws punishing you for killing cows. You can try and kill me, but you would instantly be jailed up. I'm protected by those stupid laws. That is how stupid humans actually are, valuing themselves above all.

i agree, to value a life form over another is wrong.

omfg TheLife stop talking about that chicken, its so delicious and good, your making me hungry. :(

[Dylan]

actually humans have a legal system to tell them what is right and wrong, if we all instantly know what it was, then we won't have jails, prisons and a Justice system
Who told the judges what was right and wrong?
Teachers.
Who told the teachers?
Another teacher, and so on, back the very first human,. Who told him/her?
No one, mankind figured it out on their own.
Dogs cannot.

[DaMan]

Who told the judges what was right and wrong?
Teachers.
Who told the teachers?
Another teacher, and so on, back the very first human,. Who told him/her?
No one, mankind figured it out on their own.
Dogs cannot.
Dog's just are not as smart.

Your basically saying dumb people are a whole other species.

[poe101591]

Who told the judges what was right and wrong?
Teachers.
Who told the teachers?
Another teacher, and so on, back the very first human,. Who told him/her?
No one, mankind figured it out on their own.
Dogs cannot.

yes, but the fact we need those jobs tells you something right?

[Ryuk]

Take an example from the wild.
Let's say that there is a lion, hunting for some food.
It sees a zebra. Does the lion think "Wow, that zebra is just too cute, I can't eat that", and walks away? NO. It promptly runs up to it and bites it into pieces!!!
That's how humans should be.

[Dylan]

Dog's just are not as smart.

Your basically saying dumb people are a whole other species.
Dogs ARE another species.
Ffs...
yes, but the fact we need those jobs tells you something right?
Yes, it tells us we were born brutes that CAN TELL RIGHT FROM WRONG.
Dogs, cannot.
I don't see a dog that formed his own language, and told other dogs what is right/wrong, or sentences other dogs.


I'MA PLAY HALO FOR LIKE 30 MINUTES, MAYBE LESS IF I SUCK, BRB.

[poe101591]

Take an example from the wild.
Let's say that there is a lion, hunting for some food.
It sees a zebra. Does the lion think "Wow, that zebra is just too cute, I can't eat that", and walks away? NO. It promptly runs up to it and bites it into pieces!!!
That's how humans should be.

actually in the wild animals kill to eat, but then again some kill for territory and dominance, we are not all that different

Dog's just are not as smart.

Your basically saying dumb people are a whole other species.

i wish we could separate them :(

Dogs ARE another species.
Ffs...

Yes, it tells us we were born brutes that CAN TELL RIGHT FROM WRONG.
Dogs, cannot.
I don't see a dog that formed his own language, and told other dogs what is right/wrong, or sentences other dogs.


I'MA PLAY HALO FOR LIKE 30 MINUTES, MAYBE LESS IF I SUCK, BRB.

people kill each other every day, some go unpunished and some do, a fair good amount will kill again. That tells us if we CAN tell right from wrong, then we choose not to. We try and govern our selves to make sure it doesn't happen, but even knowing that you will be caught, must still kill. People are no better from 'animals', we all reacted to actions, we all can care, we all can be angered, and we all can kill for no reason.

We actually have laws that say if he can prove he was insane, he will not be serve as someone that could, do you know how to prove this? First you have to prove that he CAN'T tell right from wrong, this has been used in court, and it holds up in court. Your own system that you use to prove that humans has that ability also says some can't.

[DaMan]

Dogs ARE another species.
Ffs...

You missed the point. . .

[Ryuk]

Actually, dumb people might be something other than human, to tell you the truth. The defining feature of humans are their so-called "remarkable" intelligence. Without that, are they still be be considered human?

[Dylan]

actually in the wild animals kill to eat, but then again some kill for territory and dominance, we are not all that different



i wish we could separate them :(



people kill each other every day, some go unpunished and some do, a fair good amount will kill again. That tells us if we CAN tell right from wrong, then we choose not to. We try and govern our selves to make sure it doesn't happen, but even knowing that you will be caught, must still kill. People are no better from 'animals', we all reacted to actions, we all can care, we all can be angered, and we all can kill for no reason.
It's human instinct to want to cause harm to protect something we've created.
Is that wrong?
It is natural.
Should we fight it because we deem it immoral to kill so that what we started can be finished?
Gangs form a family, they form territory, they make money, most of them have legit business on the side.
Should we destroy their legit business as well as their drug running because we say drugs are illegal?


Take pot as an example.
It does not fit the legal description of an illegal substance drug because the legal definition mentions altering it.
Pot grows the way it does.
We do not change it.
But it takes away pain for a few moments and makes you feel great, but it's illegal ebcause a human said it's illegal.
So should we not smoke it?
Because a human said it's illegal, when you have basically said humans are the same as wild animals, who cannot tell right from wrong on their own.

[OmegaLemming]

If that was for real, the guy saying "that's mean" was understating.

Animal abuse at it's peak :/

Then again, I've read stories about frustrated soldiers taking their aggression out on defenseless animals before..

[poe101591]

It's human instinct to want to cause harm to protect something we've created.
Is that wrong?
It is natural.
Should we fight it because we deem it immoral to kill so that what we started can be finished?
Gangs form a family, they form territory, they make money, most of them have legit business on the side.
Should we destroy their legit business as well as their drug running because we say drugs are illegal?


Take pot as an example.
It does not fit the legal description of an illegal substance drug because the legal definition mentions altering it.
Pot grows the way it does.
We do not change it.
But it takes away pain for a few moments and makes you feel great, but it's illegal ebcause a human said it's illegal.
So should we not smoke it?
Because a human said it's illegal, when you have basically said humans are the same as wild animals, who cannot tell right from wrong on their own.

you believe every murder can be justicified??
and wtf are you trying to say with the drugs? People try to make drugs illegal because it can harm you, but when there is enough people wanting it legalize, that happens. Humanity care very conflicting belief on every aspect of life, do you believe what hitler did was justified? Must say no, but there are a small percentage of people that say he did the right thing, that certain races don't have the right to live. And with this you believe all humans are born with a sense of what is right and wrong?


and i added more on my post you quoted, you guys was taking to long to reply to it <.<

[Dylan]

you believe every murder can be justicified??every murder has a reason.
even random violence murders.

and wtf are you trying to say with the drugs? People try to make drugs illegal because it can harm you,You proved my point for me. but when there is enough people wanting it legalize, that happens.What happens?
You didn't say what happens, you say it happens. Humanity care very conflicting belief on every aspect of life,What..? You are confusing, I cannot comprehend what you wrote.. do you believe what hitler did was justified? There's a difference in his reasoning and mine.
And btw: Hitler commanded it, he didn't do it himself, he caused it, but didn't actually do it.
Hitler was raised to believe Germans were superiror.
The massive flaw in hsi point of view was he said that only people that shoudl live is blonde haired blue eyes germans.
He ahd black hair and bown eyes.
He pretty much said he hismelf deserved to die.
Proof he was usnatble.
That's the reason for the holocaust, his unsatbility.Must say no, but there are a small percentage of people that say he did the right thing,Unstable sheep. that certain races don't have the right to live.Do cannibals have the right to live?And with this you believe all humans are born with a sense of what is right and wrong?I said all humans CAN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IN RIGHT OR WRONG, not that they are BORN knowing.



and i added more on my post you quoted, you guys was taking to long to reply to it <.<
Please restate what I couldn't udnerstand.

[niceguyeddie]

GAHD you have been killing to many lvl3 goblins in runescape, it has desensitized you.

[Dylan]

GAHD you have been killing to many lvl3 goblins in runescape, it has desensitized you.
Are you completely retarded?
I don't play runescape for fun, I make money off of it for one.
For two, you obviously played it or you wouldn't know what lvl goblins are.
For three, the last thing I took on for 10 bucks was Jad, lvl 780 something.
With 64 waves of lvl 300+ monsters before him, and he has healers.

[OmegaLemming]

Are you completely retarded?
I don't play runescape for fun, I make money off of it for one.
For two, you obviously played it or you wouldn't know what lvl goblins are.
For three, the last thing I took on for 10 bucks was Jad, lvl 780 something.
With 64 waves of lvl 300+ monsters before him, and he has healers.

When you can describe a game in detail like that, you know you're an addict :D

*pats you on back*

I was like that once upon a time too. My new addictions vary. ^_^

[Dylan]

When you can describe a game in detail like that, you know you're an addict :D

*pats you on back*

I was like that once upon a time too. My new addictions vary. ^_^
I play it for money.
I make better money then my sister working a real job.
If I didn't know anything about it then I'd be broke.

[OmegaLemming]

I play it for money.
I make better money then my sister working a real job.
If I didn't know anything about it then I'd be broke.

O_O

I was pretty good at that game, Combat Level 68

Non combat skills ranging from 20 something to 70 something.

My highest was woodcutting, and I fletched nearly everyday.

Ah the almost memorable memories..

[poe101591]

Please restate what I couldn't udnerstand.

ok, from that you say that humans CAN have a sense of right and wrong, but do not always act on it, and why CAN'T animals have a sense of right and wrong, but not always act on it?

you say that every murder has a reason,even random violence murders, but what I'm saying is it can not be justified, as in the preparatory can not say he/she did this for the right reason. If mankind figured out right and wrong on their own, then why do not they act right all the time? They don't, because even if you can tell, you don't always choose to act for right. You say that i prove your point for you, but yet in that sentence i say people try to make drugs illegal because they harm you, they don't always succeed in the process, we have tried to make cigarettes illegal, and it failed because the population didn't not want it to happen, even though they know its dangerous. So that proves that mankind does not always do the right thing.

and for the sentence 'humanity care very conflicting beliefs on life' i didn't type carry, instead i typed care, it was a typo. Your own statement in Hitler proves the point that humans are raised to know what right and wrong are, they do not come just know. You say he just commanded it, but with in law, he is just as guilty, in fact people that fall down the ladder of command are usually not charged with anything, even though they do it first hand. The on statement that they was fallowing orders will drastically decrease, if not eliminate, their chances getting jail time. (why do you cut off the sentence at the ',' its not a period, you have to keep reading).

You say that humans CAN KNOW, as if you also try to say that some don't, CAN KNOW is a big differnce from actually knowing. Is it hard to believe that most animals CAN KNOW? But most choose not too?

[brohana]

This is SOOOOOOOO old


and its fake, so don't freak out.

[poe101591]

You're a few months late there buddy



By any chance are you filipino? :D

Sooooo ooollldddd.

This is SOOOOOOOO old


and its fake, so don't freak out.

do you not see that others have posted it is old
if its old, does it change what it is?
and the thread is more or less about the opinion of what if it was real, almost no one is debating if its real or not

[Ryuk]

ok, from that you say that humans CAN have a sense of right and wrong, but do not always act on it, and why CAN'T animals have a sense of right and wrong, but not always act on it?

you say that every murder has a reason,even random violence murders, but what I'm saying is it can not be justified, as in the preparatory can not say he/she did this for the right reason. If mankind figured out right and wrong on their own, then why do not they act right all the time? They don't, because even if you can tell, you don't always choose to act for right. You say that i prove your point for you, but yet in that sentence i say people try to make drugs illegal because they harm you, they don't always succeed in the process, we have tried to make cigarettes illegal, and it failed because the population didn't not want it to happen, even though they know its dangerous. So that proves that mankind does not always do the right thing.

and for the sentence 'humanity care very conflicting beliefs on life' i didn't type carry, instead i typed care, it was a typo. Your own statement in Hitler proves the point that humans are raised to know what right and wrong are, they do not come just know. You say he just commanded it, but with in law, he is just as guilty, in fact people that fall down the ladder of command are usually not charged with anything, even though they do it first hand. The on statement that they was fallowing orders will drastically decrease, if not eliminate, their chances getting jail time. (why do you cut off the sentence at the ',' its not a period, you have to keep reading).

You say that humans CAN KNOW, as if you also try to say that some don't, CAN KNOW is a big differnce from actually knowing. Is it hard to believe that most animals CAN KNOW? But most choose not too?
Well, murders only happen with a reason to kill someone. When ever people investigate murders, the thing they look for is a possible motivation. People never kill randomly, they always have reasons for doing so. And sometimes murder can be justified. War is the greatest example of it.

[poe101591]

Well, murders only happen with a reason to kill someone. When ever people investigate murders, the thing they look for is a possible motivation. People never kill randomly, they always have reasons for doing so. And sometimes murder can be justified. War is the greatest example of it.

murder doesn't always happen with the intent to kill, that is why we also have man slaughter.

[DaMan]

This is SOOOOOOOO old


and its fake, so don't freak out.
Don't lie brohana.

[poe101591]

Don't lie brohana.

his only lieing to get you to post here again, come on DaMan, join the argument again ;D

[DaMan]

his only lieing to get you to post here again, come on DaMan, join the argument again ;D

Eh, maybe later ;D

[poe101591]

murder doesn't always happen with the intent to kill, that is why we also have man slaughter.

let me rephrase that, i do believe every one on this topic is talking about killing another human being, but every one uses the phrase 'murder'. Homicide(which is killing another human being) doesn't all ways have a intent to kill. And can be random. But yes, people can kill randomly, and that is why we have man slaughter.

notice I do not intent to edit my post, editing a post on a thread that people are arguing on, in my opinion, shouldn't be done.

[brohana]

Don't lie brohana.

I'm not.

The original video that was posted on youtube was announced that it was fake by the creator.

it was spread around the internet as "true"

this stuff happens all the time...don't believe everything you hear on the intrawebz.

[DaMan]

I'm not.

The original video that was posted on youtube was announced that it was fake by the creator.

it was spread around the internet as "true"

this stuff happens all the time...don't believe everything you hear on the intrawebz.
So I don't have to believe you. :eek:

[Dylan]

I'm not.

The original video that was posted on youtube was announced that it was fake by the creator.

it was spread around the internet as "true"

this stuff happens all the time...don't believe everything you hear on the intrawebz.
Exactly why my local news station says it's real.
Plus the guy that did it is pressing charges on someone that threatened his family because of it.

[Calisniper13]

I guess dogs can't fly...

Livestock is killed for a reason. To feed me. Let it die. Randomly chucking dogs off cliffs? I would ask him why he did it. What did he gain? Killing cows gives us food, which we need to live. I like living, it is something I stride for. This random act does not give us anything really. Eh...

[Jel44]

This is what a real retart is, most of you don't even know how to use the word correctly D:!!

[BoomSticker]

Watch me kick that guy in the nuts why would he do that!

[poe101591]

Plus the guy that did it is pressing charges on someone that threatened his family because of it.

This is why i stated long ago that stuff happens, nothing much you can do to change it. Also why just because some one does something similar to this, you shouldn't threaten their life.

[DariuS]

Bye bye puppy.

[WhiteRanger]

I would go over to a gun store, or area 51.

Buy a .50 Sniper Cal, and Personally shoot This as hole in the head...10 TIMES.

[eatmypoop]

I can't believe he would do something like that.

Just doesn't seems right.

:/

[TheCriminaL]

DUDE this was some sickest stuff I saw there that is why they need to pick more normal people to go there

the people at home have no clu what kinds of idiots tht like killing are in the military. Stupid Rednecks

That was sick!

[G0dSpE3dZ3r0]

I would go over to a gun store, or area 51.

Buy a .50 Sniper Cal, and Personally shoot This as hole in the head...10 TIMES.

...why not just knife the damn murderer? It puts all of your hate towards killing him.

[poe101591]

I'm not.

The original video that was posted on youtube was announced that it was fake by the creator.

it was spread around the internet as "true"

this stuff happens all the time...don't believe everything you hear on the intrawebz.

read the quote......

[KyubiNaruto]

Dogs are like bacteria, they cannot hope, they cannot dream, they are both small, by your theory every time I kill a bacteria, you should throw me off a cliff.

thats a weird ana,logy bacteria die way faster than a dog

a dog has the ability to think, ever hear of "mans best friend?" dogs can clearly think, they may think I hope i get a biscut today! :D"

[poe101591]

thats a weird ana,logy bacteria die way faster than a dog

and dogs have way shorter life time then humans

[niceguyeddie]

Are you completely retarded?
I don't play runescape for fun, I make money off of it for one.
For two, you obviously played it or you wouldn't know what lvl goblins are.
For three, the last thing I took on for 10 bucks was Jad, lvl 780 something.
With 64 waves of lvl 300+ monsters before him, and he has healers.

1st: Thats like the same thing. Your still lame for playing it.
2nd: I played it for like a month or to before I switched to flash games.(which led me to CMG, which led me to PG)
3rd: Que?

[poe101591]

1st: Thats like the same thing. Your still lame for playing it.
2nd: I played it for like a month or to before I switched to flash games.(which led me to CMG, which led me to PG)
3rd: Que?

what makes it lame? Its pretty obvious it has something with so many people playing it.

[Ryuk]

Would it be the same if someone threw a frog, or a squirrel over that cliff? If the soldier instead killed a different animal, would your viewpoint change?

[BANGdead]

I lol'd. .

[G0dSpE3dZ3r0]

what makes it lame? Its pretty obvious it has something with so many people playing it.

But there was also something that made a bunch of people quit.

And the only reason why noobs are playing it is because a bunch of other noobs play it. And the only reason why those noobs are playing it is because they either have no life or they haven't heard of World of Warcraft yet.

[Ryuk]

But there was also something that made a bunch of people quit.

And the only reason why noobs are playing it is because a bunch of other noobs play it. And the only reason why those noobs are playing it is because they either have no life or they haven't heard of World of Warcraft yet.
Seriously, there really isn't anything wrong with Runescape's core gameplay. It's just stereotypical nonsense that Runescape is a bad game.

[Calisniper13]

Would it be the same if someone threw a frog, or a squirrel over that cliff? If the soldier instead killed a different animal, would your viewpoint change?

Yes it would be. What does he gain from this? What benefit is it to throw the dog?

[KyubiNaruto]

and dogs have way shorter life time then humans

humans have a way shorter life time than clams

[Killah]

This is pretty old news
If I had a choice, I would kill him.

[EduardoIceddude]

I was wondering what happened to Blinky...

[G0dSpE3dZ3r0]

Seriously, there really isn't anything wrong with Runescape's core gameplay. It's just stereotypical nonsense that Runescape is a bad game.

Ok then. Because you objected me, please write a 1 paragraph essay (4 sentences) of how Runescape is better than WoW or any other Blizzard game. And if you compare Runescape to Starcraft or Starcraft 2, then I will throw you off of a cliff and watch your twitching body while you're at the bottom.

[Timeline]

Ok then. Because you objected me, please write a 1 paragraph essay (4 sentences) of how Runescape is better than WoW or any other Blizzard game. And if you compare Runescape to Starcraft or Starcraft 2, then I will throw you off of a cliff and watch your twitching body while you're at the bottom.


first, talk about runescape and such in gaming

second, it was fake, really, the dog never really moves and the barking never fades away. even the person who made it said it was fake.

third, if it was real >.> then, it was inhumane, for killing a defenseless animal for no reason is inhumane. the soldiers had nothing to gain...and they were smiling..it was fake..get over it :\

[G0dSpE3dZ3r0]

second, it was fake, really, the dog never really moves and the barking never fades away. even the person who made it said it was fake.

third, if it was real >.> then, it was inhumane, for killing a defenseless animal for no reason is inhumane. the soldiers had nothing to gain...and they were smiling..it was fake..get over it :\

Read the post that were made before you noob. It's real. It was on national news. It was on youtube. It was on my cousin's homepage. Just please, shut up! It's real!

[Deodorized]

Ok then. Because you objected me, please write a 1 paragraph essay (4 sentences) of how Runescape is better than WoW or any other Blizzard game. And if you compare Runescape to Starcraft or Starcraft 2, then I will throw you off of a cliff and watch your twitching body while you're at the bottom.

He never said it was better than WoW. He merely said Runescape is surrounded by stereotypical nonsense that makes everyone believe Runescape is a bad game, and doesn't have any quality.

Besides, he doesn't have to write anything on how Runescape has quality to it. You're obviously a hardcore WoW'er or whater you all call yourselves, and your opinion won't change on it.

@Topic: The puppy had no chance of survival, it was injured, and there wasn't a veterinary clinic for miles, and we're not supposed to bring anything back with us to wherever we're stationed. So it was either leave a helpless, injured puppy to get killed/mauled by an animal, starve, and suffer from dehydration, or end it's life the quick, humane way. ((I know it's not all that humane, but given the alternatives, I'd choose a fall.)) In my eyes, the soldgier was doing the puppy a favour, by ending it's painful life so it didn't have to suffer.

Y'all are going to argue with me on my opinion, but whatever.
Btw, I'm an animal lover. Some people can't look past the fact that it was a puppy, and research it to the point they know the background details, THEN give their opinion on it.

[Deodorized]

first, talk about runescape and such in gaming

second, it was fake, really, the dog never really moves and the barking never fades away. even the person who made it said it was fake.

third, if it was real >.> then, it was inhumane, for killing a defenseless animal for no reason is inhumane. the soldiers had nothing to gain...and they were smiling..it was fake..get over it :\

You've never handled a puppy, have you?
If you had, you'd have known that when you hold a puppy by the nape of his neck, it goes into a submissive no-movement state. The reason for this is because the canines mother held him/her like that as a newborn, and associates that type of contact to his/her mother.

[greb]

first, talk about runescape and such in gaming

second, it was fake, really, the dog never really moves and the barking never fades away. even the person who made it said it was fake.

third, if it was real >.> then, it was inhumane, for killing a defenseless animal for no reason is inhumane. the soldiers had nothing to gain...and they were smiling..it was fake..get over it :\

Its not fake. It actually happened quite a while ago, and the soldier in question was already punished.

[DaMan]

Its not fake. It actually happened quite a while ago, and the soldier in question was already punished.
How was he punished?

[KyubiNaruto]

How was he punished?

probably a court marshal, then was arrested and put in US jail for animal cruelty

[BrokenGlass]

Call me a bad person, but it made me chuckle a bit.

[KyubiNaruto]

Call me a bad person, but it made me chuckle a bit.

it did to me too, thinking OMG LOL funny as in wow i cant believe he did that, then sad because he is an A hole

[DaMan]

probably a court marshal, then was arrested and put in US jail for animal cruelty
I want the real answer not a theory. >_>
Call me a bad person, but it made me chuckle a bit.
*pimp slaps BG*

[Dylan]

Call me a bad person, but it made me chuckle a bit.
When I first saw it I did indeed believe it was fake and laughed.
Then I read about it being real and I saw it on the news and was like.
"Oh damn."

[greb]

Its not fake. It actually happened quite a while ago, and the soldier in question was already punished.

I don't remember. I don't think it was a court marshal. I think it was more along the lines of a demotion in rank.

Ill shoot a message to my buddy in Afghanistan, although it may be a while until i see a reply.

[DaMan]

I don't remember. I don't think it was a court marshal. I think it was more along the lines of a demotion in rank.

Ill shoot a message to my buddy in Afghanistan, although it may be a while until i see a reply.
K thanks greb.

[poe101591]

probably a court marshal, then was arrested and put in US jail for animal cruelty

no, not a court marshal, and he didn't go to jail for animal cruelty, you can't even go to jail for animal cruelty in every state yet.

The one that throw the dog was discharged. Both marines involved in the video received "non-judicial punishment". Both punishments are un-specified.

[Dylan]

no, not a court marshal, and he didn't go to jail for animal cruelty, you can't even go to jail for animal cruelty in every state yet.

The one that throw the dog was discharged. Both marines involved in the video received "non-judicial punishment". Both punishments are un-specified.
The death threats they received is enough for me.

[deathrogue]

This is old news, it's happened nearly an year ago. The soldier has been deranked and further consequences has been taken. Many people have been outraged because of this. What I call it: Animal Abuse/Cruelty. I got enraged and after this, I started to dislike US soldiers like him. There are many US Soldiers who abuse animals and kids in the Iraq war. There are many videos out there. For example, there was a video of a US Soldier shooting a flare at a dog with a M203 Grenade Launcher.

[OGCrookedO]

This belongs in the videos section.


that was fudged up. you could hear it land too :(

[Claw]

Pretty messed up. This is what war does to people.

[sY]

There's a special place in Hell for people that kill animals like that. Truly the most senseless act I have ever seen by a soldier.

[Eiliosdraye]

Don't worry, he was discharged and sentenced to a few years in prison for animal cruelty.


But yeah, that's just totally cruel. Dogs never try to hurt people, especially puppies. Puppies just want to be friends with everybody. He needs to be shot for that.

[Hamzter]

dude, thats freaking worse than drowning puppies...

at least he got punished =/