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SnipeMe

09-22-2008, 07:01 PM

This is my latest and greatest map! Im really hoping to get this servered so every suggestion counts.
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http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg77/lsnipemeel/Pawngame-Siege-2.jpg

Ive posted the code so you guys can try it out. Ive already done some play testing and the gameplay seems to be even on both sides.

edit-Sharpy wanted to help me out on this map so he made his own version
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3990/siegelu6.png
If I think of any changes I will stick with Sharpy's design

edit-Current version
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http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg77/lsnipemeel/Pawngame-Siege-5.jpg

Danishpoo

09-22-2008, 07:16 PM

hey nice map u wanna 10n1 on it?

SPOT2008

09-22-2008, 07:21 PM

well part of it is a bit to flat but overall nice post it in sharpys thread maybe it will get servered

SnipeMe

09-22-2008, 07:40 PM

I submitted this into Sharpy's thread. I also added refills:)

tinglian

09-23-2008, 07:12 AM

Too many castle that no need .

SnipeMe

09-23-2008, 05:39 PM

Updated!

I fixed a nooby mistake I made at the top and added space ladders to make the tiles flow more.

Hyjal

09-23-2008, 05:45 PM

Remove the Refills ; too much
Make it smaller ; 3x3 are Horrible to try
too much Ladders in the map
Remove the Crouches and the Wasted spaces
3.5/10

09-23-2008, 05:56 PM

Wow, this map is truly awesome, your use of the 3x3 is really great, and since I compare most Assaults this size to June, and I actually think this is better.

Needless to say, there are some changes that need to be made, and i would do some stuff with the layout, but overall great job.

I'd love to help you out so let me know if you'd rather I play the map with you and let you make all the changes, or make some of them myself and see what you think.

Put this kid in the MMT. ;)

EduardoIceddude

09-23-2008, 06:30 PM

blue spawn is too far from arti (respectively, as in if reds already are in base, the blue person will be too late to save it.

needs design improvement, as well as fix to the trap on the left of blue spawn.

other than that, it is a good map.

09-23-2008, 07:07 PM

Alright, I worked on it, as you told me to do, and I like the finished result but due to the dumb map glitch I'm unable to host and test it....

EaEaEa

09-23-2008, 07:09 PM

This is quite epic 4/5 (cause kinda empty in passage ways)

SnipeMe

09-23-2008, 08:44 PM

Thanks for all the feedbacl!

Eduardo, what do you mean about the trap? Is there some kind of glitch to get past it or do you think its too ugly when the tiles are destroyed(it used to look better but it messed everything up).

Sharpy, can you send me a private message with what you did? I believe your work will be a major help with the completion of this map.

Hamo

09-23-2008, 10:16 PM

hey nice map u wanna 10n1 on it?

You don't 1 on 1 on an assault, or a map that big.

To me you kinda gotta travel to far to get to the arti, you will just get bored to easy. It's also kinda boring.

4/10

09-23-2008, 10:43 PM

You people really need to play the map, and I really need to figure out how to get rid of this lame glitch so I can test out my editted version of this map.

arabftw123

09-23-2008, 10:59 PM

You people really need to play the map, and I really need to figure out how to get rid of this lame glitch so I can test out my editted version of this map.

Eh. It really doesn't look like that great of a map Sharpy, maybe your version is better, I don't know.. O_o

And what glitch is this? o_o

Puffer

09-26-2008, 01:38 AM

Quite a few useless spaces, traps, and dead ends.

More of an old school map. But loads of minor problems.

2/5.

09-26-2008, 01:46 AM

Meh, my version of it is basically like a secret passageways beneath a small castle map :D

Here's a screeny, I still can't host it...

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3990/siegelu6.png

ReaperPlaya

09-26-2008, 02:27 AM

Tayl0rl0ve

09-26-2008, 02:28 AM

Looks Open spaced. Overall It looks pretty good. I'll give it a 4/5

SnipeMe

09-26-2008, 08:25 AM

drunkdestroyer

09-26-2008, 05:05 PM

Sharpy, whats the thing holding the other spawn?
Might look better as a parachute?

09-28-2008, 02:40 AM

Sharpy, whats the thing holding the other spawn?
Might look better as a parachute?

Open up a screen on map editor and make one then screeny it and post it here, because that is the best i could come up with.

quickkillerz

09-28-2008, 11:51 AM

The only thing i like is the boat. Other thatn taht it is flat and open to me.

09-28-2008, 05:02 PM

The only thing i like is the boat. Other thatn taht it is flat and open to me.

So it's a typical assault map and that's bad?

EduardoIceddude

09-28-2008, 05:30 PM

sharpy, inside parachute use the white background tile from urban to make it more obvious.

very good, but the gravel in lower left screen just doesn't agree with me. make a hole in it and add a refill room at the least.

09-28-2008, 06:11 PM

jluke16

09-28-2008, 06:12 PM

Awsome map, 10/10.

MEHELLO

09-28-2008, 06:14 PM

the very first refill really doesnt need to be there overall i give it a 3.5/5

arabftw123

09-28-2008, 06:23 PM

Meh, my version of it is basically like a secret passageways beneath a small castle map :D

Here's a screeny, I still can't host it...

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3990/siegelu6.png

- You have a lot of flat/open areas.
- Couple screen glitches.
- Bad refill locations.
- I know 3 x 3's are different when using space, but I don't like the way you made use of it.

2.3/5

It's a nice concept to be sure, but there's problems. D:

09-28-2008, 06:40 PM

- You have a lot of flat/open areas. So it's just like all the Assault maps on the server.
- Couple screen glitches. I still can't host it so it's not like I can find out where all the glitches are to fix them...
- Bad refill locations. I made it harder for both teams to refill in battle, I think that's a good thing.
- I know 3 x 3's are different when using space, but I don't like the way you made use of it. So you hate June 6, 1944 also?

2.3/5

It's a nice concept to be sure, but there's problems. D: Again, I can't host it to find glitches...

arabftw123

09-28-2008, 06:44 PM

- You have a lot of flat/open areas. So it's just like all the Assault maps on the server
- Couple screen glitches. I still can't host it so it's not like I can find out where all the glitches are to fix them...
- Bad refill locations. I made it harder for both teams to refill in battle, I think that's a good thing.
- I know 3 x 3's are different when using space, but I don't like the way you made use of it. So you hate June 6, 1944 also?

2.3/5

It's a nice concept to be sure, but there's problems. D: Again, I can't host it to find glitches...

The screen glitches are the ones with ladders right next to the red line in Map Editor.

Sharpy, we both know that map standards have changed. If people wanted to get a map servered based off the current maps, couldn't I make a piece of total garbage like Tower of Darkness and expect to see it servered immediately? =|

And about your refill locations. I think, the way you've laid out the map, there are better refill locations to help spread the gameplay out.

09-28-2008, 06:49 PM

The screen glitches are the ones with ladders right next to the red line in Map Editor.

Sharpy, we both know that map standards have changed. If people wanted to get a map servered based off the current maps, couldn't I make a piece of total garbage like Tower of Darkness and expect to see it servered immediately? =|

And about your refill locations. I think, the way you've laid out the map, there are better refill locations to help spread the gameplay out.

Alright.

The standards for Assaults really haven't changed a lot from the the time that the new June was servered, and I still think it's a good quality map, and comparably, that this one is just as good if not better. Also, I'm going based of what I think the best assault map is on the server, any new maps made need to be at least as good as the best maps on the server, not the worst ones...

Show me where they should be.

Also, i need to post a new screen, I changed both bottom corners, and added a cave aspect in the right corner that lets the red team get into the blue side of the base, but it's still easier to just go around.

killeratlarge

09-28-2008, 06:49 PM

Doesn't seem like that great of a map to me :0

s3kTi0n8

09-28-2008, 07:42 PM

Doesn't seem like that great of a map to me :0

i agree with kal not so great -_-

SnipeMe

10-10-2008, 08:23 PM

Just letting you guys know that I havnt forgotten about this map. I've made a new version to prove it! This version makes the center left a tiny bit less flat, makes it easier for blue to get to the arti and adds an entirely new screen and look. I also got rid of Sharpy's parachute and 2 spawns and I brought back the sniping boxes. Although it makes the map look a bit worse, I made it impossible to get drowned permanently.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg77/lsnipemeel/Pawngame-Siege-4.jpg

jared1337

10-10-2008, 08:30 PM

i like it 10/10 but remove the un wanted space and it might get serverd nice work

SnipeMe

10-21-2008, 06:52 PM

Newer version made!

This time I changed the sub to Sharpy's and did a bunch of other small fixes. The main thing I did was make the middle part a bit more useful and get rid of a nasty glitch that allowed red players onto the blue side(top right).
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg77/lsnipemeel/Pawngame-Siege-5.jpg

arabftw123

10-21-2008, 06:56 PM

watsurface

10-21-2008, 07:16 PM

I dont really like this map at all. if i were u i would work on smaller maps first and then move ur way up to bigger maps as u get better.

SnipeMe

10-22-2008, 06:09 PM

<This is a reply to the updated version>

The map still has a lot of problems. The main one being that Red can be destroyed by camping. Your tile flow leaves something to be desired, and you have a lot of open/tight areas.
Well, atleast its not spawn camping. I dont wan't to get rid of the quick access to the beginning that blue has so I'll try to fix the camping by giving red more then one way to get to the top middle screen. That way, blue can't just aim at one spot and wait for the heads to appear and then red will have just as good of a chance as blue for getting the first shot in.

I don't really see any open/tight areas that lead to problems. If I get an idea I'll try to do something to make it less open/tight.

As for the tileflow part, I'm starting to kind of feel like some parts just need something but I don't know what. I'll try to think of something.

PieDude

10-24-2008, 12:01 AM

i agree with kal not so great -_-

same doesnt look that great :/

Stinger007

10-24-2008, 11:23 AM

I don't like it because there are way too many tiles used...
My rating : 4.5/10