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sonman95
07-02-2008, 10:41 PM
i hate it when people say your a p-90 Noob and your dominating the whole game. P-90 is my best gun i can do some damage with it. What do you think about it? Are you a P-90 noob? i am and i proud to be one.

UreOnMyHitList
07-02-2008, 10:47 PM
iam pretty good with the 90 idc what ppl call me it owns thats all to say

Puffer
07-02-2008, 10:48 PM
P90 = Almost no skill to use.

Nubs = Use guns that take little skill to use.

That is why it's a nub gun, enough said. :|

I could own any noobs with the DE, a gun that actually takes skill to use.

vSkyzv
07-02-2008, 10:50 PM
P90 = Almost no skill to use.

Nubs = Use guns that take little skill to use.

That is why it's a nub gun, enough said. :|

I could own any noobs with the DE, a gun that actually takes skill to use.

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That's the most idiotic comment I've heard. "I'm going to use this gun even if it's not as effective and harder to use than that other "n00b gun"".

Think about it... Are you going to make the smart decision and use the "n00b gun" or be cocky and use the "pro gun".

Puffer
07-02-2008, 10:51 PM
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That's the most idiotic comment I've heard. "I'm going to use this gun even if it's not as effective and harder to use than that other "n00b gun"".

Think about it... Are you going to make the smart decision and use the "n00b gun" or be cocky and use the "pro gun".

I'm actually better with a gun that takes skill, then a gun that doesn't.

And I could own the P90 with a DE, so I use the DE.

There, get it?

vSkyzv
07-02-2008, 10:52 PM
I'm actually better with a gun that takes skill, then a gun that doesn't.

And I could own the P90 with a DE, so I use the DE.

There, get it?
Why is P90 a "n00b gun" if you can own it? It's just you're mocking people not as skilled as you are...

Puffer
07-02-2008, 10:54 PM
Why is P90 a "n00b gun" if you can own it? It's just you're mocking people not as skilled as you are...

It's a "Noob Gun" because it takes little skill to use, noobs use it. And it lags up the game. I could list more, but I'm just not in the mood to explain why it's a so called noob gun again.

Because all pros were once noobs, and I even remember my noob days using it sometimes. Now I compare it to guns that take more skill and guns that can own it.

vSkyzv
07-02-2008, 10:56 PM
It's a "Noob Gun" because it takes little skill to use, noobs use it. And it lags up the game. I could list more, but I'm just not in the mood to explain why it's a so called noob gun again.

Because all pros were once noobs, and I even remember my noob days using it sometimes. Now I compare it to guns that take more skill and guns that can own it.
So you're flaming "n00bs". It lags up the game? There are many factors that lag up the game. P90s aren't the only reason.

Puffer
07-02-2008, 10:58 PM
So you're flaming "n00bs". It lags up the game? There are many factors that lag up the game. P90s aren't the only reason.

Yes, but they can be a big reason in small maps.

I'm just teaching the better to people, as eventually they might wanna be good. And seeing the so called "pros" use guns that take little skill is kinda sad.

It's a good beginner gun, but eventually people have to grow out of using the P90.

UreOnMyHitList
07-02-2008, 11:00 PM
It's a "Noob Gun" because it takes little skill to use, noobs use it. And it lags up the game. I could list more, but I'm just not in the mood to explain why it's a so called noob gun again.

Because all pros were once noobs, and I even remember my noob days using it sometimes. Now I compare it to guns that take more skill and guns that can own it.

i would like some proof that the p90 lags up a game with 10 ppl in it

vSkyzv
07-02-2008, 11:00 PM
Yes, but they can be a big reason in small maps.

I'm just teaching the better to people, as eventually they might wanna be good. And seeing so called "pros" use guns that take little skill is kinda sad.

It's a good beginner gun, but eventually people have to grow out of using the P90.
You realize you can't force people into not using the P90. No matter how much you insult, no matter how much you discriminate, no matter how much you hate, they will always use it? Why? Because it's a gun, it's available, and is very effective.

Puffer
07-02-2008, 11:02 PM
You realize you can't force people into not using the P90. No matter how much you insult, no matter how much you discriminate, no matter how much you hate, they will always use it? Why? Because it's a gun, it's available, and is very effective.

Did I say I'm forcing anyone, lol. I'm just making posts explaining why most average players should not use it.

It's a good gun to have on this game, but all I believe is it's a good beginner gun to have.

arabftw123
07-02-2008, 11:05 PM
P90 = Almost no skill to use.

Nubs = Use guns that take little skill to use.

That is why it's a nub gun, enough said. :|

I could own any noobs with the DE, a gun that actually takes skill to use.

That's basically how I feel. Believe me, I used to use the p90 all the time. I thought I owned; but then I started using some of the other guns.

You can use whatever guns you want, but test out the other guns as well (which are, in my opinion, better) and then decide which one is best for you.

vSkyzv
07-02-2008, 11:05 PM
Did I say I'm forcing anyone, lol. I'm just making posts explaining why most average players should not use it.

It's a good gun to have on this game, but all I believe is it's a good beginner gun to have.
You are pressuring people to not use the P90 by using insults.

Puffer
07-02-2008, 11:06 PM
You are pressuring people to not use the P90 by using insults.

Noob and nub are insults?

Lol, if they were I'm sure almost all of Pawn would have been banned by now. :)

CHiNback
07-02-2008, 11:07 PM
I use P90. Except I'm no noob.

Noob and nub are insults. It's almost as bad as being called a *****.

vSkyzv
07-02-2008, 11:08 PM
Noob and nub are insults?

Lol, if they were I'm sure almost all of Pawn would have been banned by now. :)
I want all the definitions of "nub".

CHiNback
07-02-2008, 11:09 PM
1. part of a limb.

BTM4444
07-02-2008, 11:12 PM
i always use p-90 and just ignore all the ppl who r complaining about it

Puffer
07-02-2008, 11:15 PM
I want all the definitions of "nub".

Hey Everyone!

Lets all go the the Urban Dictionary and look all the terms of nub! :rolleyes:

vSkyzv
07-02-2008, 11:16 PM
Hey Everyone!

Lets all go the the Urban Dictionary and look all the terms of nub! :rolleyes:
Is this relevant?

OGCrookedO
07-02-2008, 11:27 PM
o.O DROP THE DAMM P90 CRAP ALREADY :| use it if you want or dont just STFU about it already

Stonch
07-02-2008, 11:27 PM
I never really use p90, The only time i use it is when there are sg campers.

Other then that i don't use it.

Tman340
07-03-2008, 12:31 AM
Don't listen to them use whatever weapon you want.

Saviour2
07-03-2008, 12:36 AM
Puffer just shut up, you have never owned, EVER. Maybe if you had some skill to back up your accusations things would be different. But you are saying that anyone who uses a GUN THAT IS IN THE GAME is a noob? Lol.. Just shut up and use it and get owned, or shut up don't use it and still get owned. The outcome is still going to be the same..

modam
07-03-2008, 12:40 AM
*yawns* here we go again

da spam festival YAY *chokes*

Saviour2
07-03-2008, 12:41 AM
*yawns* here we go again

da spam festival YAY *chokes*
Way to spam. stay on topic hypocrite... P90 is still a gun.

modam
07-03-2008, 12:46 AM
have a sooky what i think of its in my siggy and has been from day one on my outher acc hamo.

and there has been over 1mil threads on this and im over it

wickedhayo
07-03-2008, 08:22 AM
I use p90 and i love it when people start calling me a p90 noob, it makes me laugh that people can get so angry over a game...

The only thing that does irritate me is that they call me a hacker when i use it...



PROUD TO BE A P90 NOOB!

And i also use MK that gun pwns also...

xXsoYsoYsoYXx
07-03-2008, 08:57 AM
P90 = Almost no skill to use.

Nubs = Use guns that take little skill to use.

That is why it's a nub gun, enough said. :|

I could own any noobs with the DE, a gun that actually takes skill to use.

Does it matter? how does it take no skill?
its a gun.Why do you have to pick on that gun :(

xXsoYsoYsoYXx
07-03-2008, 08:59 AM
o.O DROP THE DAMM P90 CRAP ALREADY :| use it if you want or dont just STFU about it already

enough said =D

Pope
07-03-2008, 09:11 AM
I prefer 1 shot kills weapons.


I go with G3C6 when I need an auto, which is a 3 shot kill if you are lucky.

KyubiNaruto
07-03-2008, 09:26 AM
Ok, you guys gotta calm down with this little tissy here. You both can agree that the P90 causes some lag when fired in an automatic state, you can also agree that the P90 requires little skill or "easy to use".

It is also true that the P90 is mostly used by noob ranked players, I myself hate the fact like people like Puffer are facist toward any gun. This has different attributes however, for the "L2K Abraham" Shotgun; it can be considered a short-medium range weapon, and that I have seen people get killed with full health from full range (near the side of screen), and this Shotgun user was not screen jumping, just one shot at full health and dead with about -1 to about -40, (thats just me) the numbers could vary. This is not the case with the Benneli 12 gauge Shotgun, this weapon is strictly short range because of the massive spread, and low damage, I have used this Shotgun numorous times and it may or may not kill in a 1 full body shot at full health (I'll look at the numbers later).

In conclusion to this issue, I am for HonorP00ner because I have desided based on my beliefs, not because of any other reason (And not because he is in my siggy). This is a never ending war due to that every human has the freedom of thought and want, so it will never end, all we can do is denounce eachother many times over and over, and there will still be users who believe otherwise.

There have been many threads made like this one, do not make another one.

KyubiNaruto
07-03-2008, 09:29 AM
I use p90 and i love it when people start calling me a p90 noob, it makes me laugh that people can get so angry over a game...

The only thing that does irritate me is that they call me a hacker when i use it...



PROUD TO BE A P90 NOOB!

And i also use MK that gun pwns also...

sorry for double post, YEA P90 USERS AND PROUD OF IT FO EVA!!!!

well if the MK48 isnt called a noob gun because of how expensive it is, thats just because when you obtain KC for the MK48 every one else has a sufficient weapon, and if the P90 was 18KC or 20KC, maybe people wouldn't complain about it as much... (Thoughts?)

xXsoYsoYsoYXx
07-03-2008, 10:44 AM
This is somewhat off topic but...PEOPLEZ STOP PUTTING IM A PROUD P90 USER OR STUFF LIKE That. it gets so annoying

KyubiNaruto
07-03-2008, 02:24 PM
This is somewhat off topic but...PEOPLEZ STOP PUTTING IM A PROUD P90 USER OR STUFF LIKE That. it gets so annoying

Its true though, its like a mini campaign for our rights to be heard, and to be free from others hate

Dont Hate Appreciate

xfinalx
07-03-2008, 03:39 PM
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That's the most idiotic comment I've heard. "I'm going to use this gun even if it's not as effective and harder to use than that other "n00b gun"".

Think about it... Are you going to make the smart decision and use the "n00b gun" or be cocky and use the "pro gun".
Thats prolly the stupidest I've heard.

The "Smart decision" is what you use when you are a low ranked, because it's an easier gun to use, and if your pro, why would you need a noob gun?

It takes little to no sklill at all.
The only thing I sue it for is if theres like 5 people camping on other team, or other team using sg..

the "Pro decision" would be sue a pro gun, if you can't use a desert eagle, your a noob, use the ump.
If you can't use l895, your a noob, use the p90.

If you can't use a pro gun, your not a pro, just use the guns for people that suck.

Saviour2
07-03-2008, 03:52 PM
Thats prolly the stupidest I've heard.

The "Smart decision" is what you use when you are a low ranked, because it's an easier gun to use, and if your pro, why would you need a noob gun?

It takes little to no sklill at all.
The only thing I sue it for is if theres like 5 people camping on other team, or other team using sg..

the "Pro decision" would be sue a pro gun, if you can't use a desert eagle, your a noob, use the ump.
If you can't use l895, your a noob, use the p90.

If you can't use a pro gun, your not a pro, just use the guns for people that suck.

BUT THERE ISN'T NO PRO DECISION, IT'S EITHER YOU GET A P90 AND MAKE A FIGHT, OR TRY TO BE "PRO" AND 9/10 GET RAPED BY SO CALLED NOOBS THAT HAVE THE SAME FIREPOWER AS YOU... WOW!!

xfinalx
07-03-2008, 04:01 PM
BUT THERE ISN'T NO PRO DECISION, IT'S EITHER YOU GET A P90 AND MAKE A FIGHT, OR TRY TO BE "PRO" AND 9/10 GET RAPED BY SO CALLED NOOBS THAT HAVE THE SAME FIREPOWER AS YOU... WOW!!
Wow, you have no clue what a pro gun can do.
A desert eagle owns a p90 if your a pro.
Fail.

COOLBEANS
07-03-2008, 04:12 PM
Ok, Heres what i think, I think anyone can own with a p90 but it doesn't take to much skill. With sniping guns and stuff it takes way more skill you actually have to aim,but the point on Pawn is to own and get lots of kills so you have to do what you need to do in order to get points.

arabftw123
07-03-2008, 04:13 PM
BUT THERE ISN'T NO PRO DECISION, IT'S EITHER YOU GET A P90 AND MAKE A FIGHT, OR TRY TO BE "PRO" AND 9/10 GET RAPED BY SO CALLED NOOBS THAT HAVE THE SAME FIREPOWER AS YOU... WOW!!

9/10 eh? By that logic, all of our k/d's would be raped.

<_<

KyubiNaruto
07-03-2008, 04:45 PM
This proves my point which I have been trying to explain for this entire time when I talk about 1337 rules

P90 = little skill, still considered a close-medium range weapon same skill as the MK48

Sg-L2K abraham = little skill but its a camper clearer, but in Pawn it is a short-medium range weapon

Sg-Benelli = some skill, with incredibly short range, it has little effectivness from medium range, inturn = an inexpensive camper clearer for breaching camping positions and close quarters combat

UMP = moderate skill- is little effective at long range, but can clear Short- medium range targets, requires the same amount of skill as the MP5

I have a 9/10 kill ratio at short range, 7/10 kill ratio at long range, but my medium range is variable

xfinalx
07-03-2008, 10:20 PM
This proves my point which I have been trying to explain for this entire time when I talk about 1337 rules

P90 = little skill, still considered a close-medium range weapon same skill as the MK48

Sg-L2K abraham = little skill but its a camper clearer, but in Pawn it is a short-medium range weapon

Sg-Benelli = some skill, with incredibly short range, it has little effectivness from medium range, inturn = an inexpensive camper clearer for breaching camping positions and close quarters combat

UMP = moderate skill- is little effective at long range, but can clear Short- medium range targets, requires the same amount of skill as the MP5

I have a 9/10 kill ratio at short range, 7/10 kill ratio at long range, but my medium range is variable
1337 IS NOT FASCIST YOU FREAKING IDIOT.

Your just mad because you can't aim for a head, your logic fails at the part where you claim that shotgun takes skill, an l2k can be a one shot kill at full screen range.

argentdemon
07-03-2008, 10:25 PM
Wow this sounds like the Halo arguement about the "Noob" combo. P90 is a pretty easy gun to use, much easier than the deagle. But if you know what your doing than you can beat anyone using anything. People love calling me a noob when I use the P90. That's when I switch to the Kimber and own them while they use an m-29.

Just because someone uses a weapon doesn't make them noob. It's how the use it that makes them a noob or a pro.

Halogen
07-03-2008, 10:27 PM
P90 = Almost no skill to use.

Nubs = Use guns that take little skill to use.

That is why it's a nub gun, enough said. :|

I could own any noobs with the DE, a gun that actually takes skill to use.

So so true about the no skill thing for the P90..but the DEagle, you can just aim at the head and one shot, bam, your target is dead, I can own with th M4, I hope they don't take it out..the M4, for me, takes out a lot of damage on the head for my targets when I look aat their health bar on top of their heads..

arabftw123
07-03-2008, 10:34 PM
So so true about the no skill thing for the P90..but the DEagle, you can just aim at the head and one shot, bam, your target is dead, I can own with th M4, I hope they don't take it out..the M4, for me, takes out a lot of damage on the head for my targets when I look aat their health bar on top of their heads..

If that's all you think it is then you've never used it. You get 10 shots, *10* shots, which means you have to pick each and every shot. It's not a p90 where you can spray everything, and it's not an sg where you just point in the general direction and shoot.

You make it sound like aiming at a player's head while there dodging is easy as sitting down. -_-

xfinalx
07-03-2008, 10:36 PM
If that's all you think it is then you've never used it. You get 10 shots, *10* shots, which means you have to pick each and every shot. It's not a p90 where you can spray everything, and it's not an sg where you just point in the general direction and shoot.

You make it sound like aiming at a player's head while there dodging is easy as sitting down. -_-

So true...hes maybe never used a d eagle on anyone jumping ducking and side to side at same time as fast as they can mash buttons :/

MEHELLO
07-03-2008, 10:57 PM
i hate noob90 its a noob gun no skillz to use it

Saviour2
07-03-2008, 11:02 PM
9/10 eh? By that logic, all of our k/d's would be raped.

<_< Excluding pro's lol

xfinalx
07-03-2008, 11:05 PM
Excluding pro's lol
he means if the idiot was correct, our every pros kd would be like .09.

KillKill1235
07-03-2008, 11:10 PM
Puffer just shut up, you have never owned, EVER. Maybe if you had some skill to back up your accusations things would be different. But you are saying that anyone who uses a GUN THAT IS IN THE GAME is a noob? Lol.. Just shut up and use it and get owned, or shut up don't use it and still get owned. The outcome is still going to be the same..

lol you're trying to tell puff he sucks? lmao XD


i don't use p90 because i think other guns are better.

KyubiNaruto
07-03-2008, 11:35 PM
1337 IS NOT FASCIST YOU FREAKING IDIOT.

Your just mad because you can't aim for a head, your logic fails at the part where you claim that shotgun takes skill, an l2k can be a one shot kill at full screen range.

STFU STOP FLAMMING ME YOU JERK

i never clammed the shot gun requirs skill

I said it takes "LITTLE SKILL" because you accually have to move your cursor towards the enemy then click, if it was no skill you wouldnt have to do anything

My logic is 100% valid, you have made no attempt to make an arguement but to tell me that I cant aim, which has no logic, I treat every weapon fairly and use them equally, and I dont give a crap if call me a p90 noob

and yes it is facist because you descriminate it by saying "Oh oNlY 1337 RuLeS hErE nOoB"

arabftw123
07-03-2008, 11:40 PM
STFU STOP FLAMMING ME YOU JERK

i never clammed the shot gun requirs skill

I said it takes "LITTLE SKILL" because you accually have to move your cursor towards the enemy then click, if it was no skill you wouldnt have to do anything

My logic is 100% valid, you have made no attempt to make an arguement but to tell me that I cant aim, which has no logic, I treat every weapon fairly and use them equally, and I dont give a crap if call me a p90 noob

and yes it is facist because you descriminate it by saying "Oh oNlY 1337 RuLeS hErE nOoB"

Do you want the definition of Fascist?


1.a person who believes in or sympathizes with fascism.
2.(often initial capital letterhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png) a member of a fascist movement or party.
3.a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.

This is a game. Calm the hell down.

Puffer
07-03-2008, 11:47 PM
Puffer just shut up, you have never owned, EVER. Maybe if you had some skill to back up your accusations things would be different. But you are saying that anyone who uses a GUN THAT IS IN THE GAME is a noob? Lol.. Just shut up and use it and get owned, or shut up don't use it and still get owned. The outcome is still going to be the same..

Ouch! A little grouchy today, aren't we?

Is it your time of month or something?

Thats prolly the stupidest I've heard.

The "Smart decision" is what you use when you are a low ranked, because it's an easier gun to use, and if your pro, why would you need a noob gun?

It takes little to no sklill at all.
The only thing I sue it for is if theres like 5 people camping on other team, or other team using sg..

the "Pro decision" would be sue a pro gun, if you can't use a desert eagle, your a noob, use the ump.
If you can't use l895, your a noob, use the p90.

If you can't use a pro gun, your not a pro, just use the guns for people that suck.

This is one of the few great explanations I've seen of the P90 that was not made by me.

I agree with most of this post that Final made.

OGCrookedO
07-03-2008, 11:47 PM
i knew this would happen....this should be locked along with any other topics concerning (insert gun here) is nooby/not nooby threads

BANGdead
07-03-2008, 11:51 PM
Children! Children please play nicely! Its a gosh darn gun for crying out loud.

Tman340
07-03-2008, 11:55 PM
Do what i said use whatever weapon you want. Don't listen to the people who say no to the P90.

xfinalx
07-03-2008, 11:57 PM
Ouch! A little grouchy today, aren't we?

Is it your time of month or something?



This is one of the few great explanations I've seen of the P90 that was not made by me.

I agree with most of this post that Final made.
Omg, history has been made...me and Puffer agree...

Also, Puffer did own, he was one of the few elites that didn't guest farm, and still had a great KD.
I would never have admitted when he was an elite though :/

KyubiNaruto
07-04-2008, 12:01 AM
Do you want the definition of Fascist?



This is a game. Calm the hell down.


lol then its descrimination towards the weapons,

I used "facist" because people were saying "1337 rules here" and i got really mad at them because other people were changing towards it

Puffer
07-04-2008, 12:11 AM
I agree with OGC.

These kinds of nooby threads only lead to insults and flaming.

They should be locked at once unless it's a sort of thread that can be kept under control.

LoveStruck
07-04-2008, 12:24 AM
I agree with both Puffer and OGC...
Just just stop posting threads about "n00b guns"
bcuz im sure there has been many other posts saying the same thing -.-

Tman340
07-04-2008, 12:31 AM
There have been like 100 threads about noob guns.

LoveStruck
07-04-2008, 12:33 AM
There have been like 100 threads about noob guns.
Exactly, so just stop the posts. =|
Not saying you did it Tman, just saying for the noobs to hear. =)

Pooshybear
07-04-2008, 12:48 AM
I am tired of reading your aggressiveness HP, @ puffer The p90 isnt a nub gun, but it certaintly is not a gun that uses more skill.
Heres what a nub gun is,
Nub gun- Is insanely powerful with a high rate of fire, or just has an insane ROF.
Blank made sure there werent nub guns, (these can be called Admin guns in the game I have been playing lately) so please be kind.

vSkyzv
07-04-2008, 12:58 AM
1337 IS NOT FASCIST YOU FREAKING IDIOT.

Your just mad because you can't aim for a head, your logic fails at the part where you claim that shotgun takes skill, an l2k can be a one shot kill at full screen range.
Fascism is forcing people to do what you want. 1337 rules force people to use only certain weapons. Because of that, 1337 rules **ARE** fascist.

Plus your logic fails at where you said "your just mad because you can't aim for a head" because it is an ad hominem. You don't attack the arguer you attack the argument. If you attack the arguer it makes your argument invalid.

Your logic fails even more where you said "an l2k can be a one shot kill at full screen range" which is a red herring fallacy. Your argument would only be valid if it were easy to kill with an L2k from a full screen away, if it was even possible (which it isn't considering it spreads over 2 tiles meaning that only half of the pellets hit a person from a full screen away - that means that there would not be enough force to even kill from a full screen away).

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Anyways you realize that the P90 is not all nooby. The P90 is barely dominant in castle wars and is only dominant in Arena and rough maps.

xfinalx
07-04-2008, 01:03 AM
Fascism is forcing people to do what you want. 1337 rules force people to use only certain weapons. Because of that, 1337 rules **ARE** fascist. You agree to 1337r rules,not forcibly made to, in a game like this you cannot force someone to abide by 1337.

Plus your logic fails at where you said "your just mad because you can't aim for a head" because it is an ad hominem. You don't attack the arguer you attack the argument. If you attack the arguer it makes your argument invalid. The main reason people use a p90 is because they fail at headshots, yes, I do not claim all, because I use P90 when I'm being camped by a P90, or sg.

Your logic fails even more where you said "an l2k can be a one shot kill at full screen range" which is a red herring fallacy. Your argument would only be valid if it were easy to kill with an L2k from a full screen away, if it was even possible (which it isn't considering it spreads over 2 tiles meaning that only half of the pellets hit a person from a full screen away - that means that there would not be enough force to even kill from a full screen away).
A full screen can easily 1 hit ko a person if you aim at slightly below the chest, every time.
Mines in red, obviously.
I like debating with you, but your smarter than me :(
You use big words not even needed in an argument to make it seem more accurate...

Tman340
07-04-2008, 01:11 AM
Flaming war get down medic!

vSkyzv
07-04-2008, 01:12 AM
Mines in red, obviously.
I like debating with you, but your smarter than me :(
You use big words not even needed in an argument to make it seem more accurate...
1) I'm dropping my 1337 rules argument. And who the heck brought 1337 rules up anyway?

2) That is a stereotype. Might as well say all Asians are smart. The P90 actually does have good uses such as on Arena where it's harder to get a headshot because of the not-so-smooth terrain. Plus people have the freedom to do whatever as long as they don't hurt any one else, so I don't get this whining.

3) Not really. My tests showed they spread by 1 1\2 to 2 tiles meaning only half of the pellets even hit a person, meaning 4-6 pellets. 4-6 pellets would do only 48 damage max (8 per pellet). But assume that one hit the head, that would total 98 damage, which is a bit short of 100. Plus, it would be pretty hard to do a 1 hit KO.

Tman340
07-04-2008, 01:14 AM
1) I'm dropping my 1337 rules argument. And who the heck brought 1337 rules up anyway?

2) That is a stereotype. Might as well say all Asians are smart. The P90 actually does have good uses such as on Arena where it's harder to get a headshot because of the not-so-smooth terrain. Plus people have the freedom to do whatever as long as they don't hurt any one else, so I don't get this whining.

3) Not really. My tests showed they spread by 1 1\2 to 2 tiles meaning only half of the pellets even hit a person, meaning 4-6 pellets. 4-6 pellets would do only 48 damage max (8 per pellet). But assume that one hit the head, that would total 98 damage, which is a bit short of 100. Plus, it would be pretty hard to do a 1 hit KO.

the arguement is over.

LoveStruck
07-04-2008, 01:14 AM
Flaming war get down medic!
Lmao.
Seriously, can we get a mod to lock this thread. -.-

vSkyzv
07-04-2008, 01:15 AM
Lmao.
Seriously, can we get a mod to lock this thread. -.-
No because this isn't a flaming war yet. Please look up the definition of flame fest on Wikipedia.

xfinalx
07-04-2008, 01:16 AM
1) I'm dropping my 1337 rules argument. And who the heck brought 1337 rules up anyway?

2) That is a stereotype. Might as well say all Asians are smart. The P90 actually does have good uses such as on Arena where it's harder to get a headshot because of the not-so-smooth terrain. Plus people have the freedom to do whatever as long as they don't hurt any one else, so I don't get this whining.

3) Not really. My tests showed they spread by 1 1\2 to 2 tiles meaning only half of the pellets even hit a person, meaning 4-6 pellets. 4-6 pellets would do only 48 damage max (8 per pellet). But assume that one hit the head, that would total 98 damage, which is a bit short of 100. Plus, it would be pretty hard to do a 1 hit KO.
When I'm forced to use L2K, I get 1 hit KO full screen a heck alot.

Your dropping the 1337 argument which spawned from Kyubis retard senses that it's fascist, because what I said is true, and what you said was false.

And I said most can't get a HS. if you wish to debate, please read thoroughly.
I use P90 when being camped against or another 2 people on other team have it.

Tman340
07-04-2008, 01:18 AM
I use the P90 all the time and i don't care what people say. and 1337 rules are crap.

xfinalx
07-04-2008, 01:21 AM
I use the P90 all the time and i don't care what people say. and 1337 rules are crap and are fascist.
If you agree to something, it's not fascist.
you retard, stop trying to look cool by ripping Kyubinarnoobs statements.

vSkyzv
07-04-2008, 01:21 AM
When I'm forced to use L2K, I get 1 hit KO full screen a heck alot.

Your dropping the 1337 argument which spawned from Kyubis retard senses that it's fascist, because what I said is true, and what you said was false.

And I said most can't get a HS. if you wish to debate, please read thoroughly.
I use P90 when being camped against or another 2 people on other team have it.

I just want to talk to Kyubi for a sec...

Ok Kyubi never bring up stuff no relevant to the discussion kbaithnx.

And back to you. You said "most can't get an HS" while I said "that is a stereotype". Please actually debate the fact it is a stereotype instead of repeating the same argument over and over which just stalls the discussion. That's like the argument below. It's annoying when you counter somebody's argument and they just repeat the argument you just countered.

Tman340
07-04-2008, 01:22 AM
If you agree to something, it's not fascist.
you retard, stop trying to look cool by ripping Kyubinarnoobs statements.

Now you turned it into a flame fest you moron. Because by calling someone a retard you flamed.

xfinalx
07-04-2008, 01:22 AM
I just want to talk to Kyubi for a sec...

Ok Kyubi never bring up stuff no relevant to the discussion kbaithnx.

And back to you. You said "most can't get an HS" while I said "that is a stereotype". Please actually debate the fact it is a stereotype instead of repeating the same argument over and over which just stalls the discussion. That's like the argument below. It's annoying when you counter somebody's argument and they just repeat the argument you just countered.
When you say MOST it's not a stereotype, I said MOST, and you said that's like saying ALL Asians are smart, please read thoroughly if you wish to debate.

Pooshybear
07-04-2008, 01:23 AM
Just stop hp, You make a bunch of guides, and you backseat moderate. You arnt a mod. Stop flaming. I am tired of reading your crap.

Lets let this thread die.

Tman340
07-04-2008, 01:24 AM
Just stop hp, You make a bunch of guides, and you backseat moderate. You arnt a mod. Stop flaming. I am tired of reading your crap.

Lets let this thread die.

No hp isn't flaming if anyone is flaming its xfinalx.

xfinalx
07-04-2008, 01:24 AM
Just stop hp, You make a bunch of guides, and you backseat moderate. You arnt a mod. Stop flaming. I am tired of reading your crap.

Lets let this thread die.
What made you bring someone backseat modding and making guides into a friggin p90 debate?

That's just incredibly strange, please if you wish to post here and not look like an idiot, voice an opinion about the subject matter.


EDIT: I noticed am dragging this dangerously close to a flame war, I will try not to, sorry.

vSkyzv
07-04-2008, 01:28 AM
Just stop hp, You make a bunch of guides, and you backseat moderate. You arnt a mod. Stop flaming. I am tired of reading your crap.

Lets let this thread die.
I don't flame at all. It's stating my opinion. Please look up the definition of "flaming" on Wikipedia. When did I act like a mod? What's wrong with making guides? Did I backseat moderate recently?

poe101591
07-04-2008, 02:49 AM
I'm actually better with a gun that takes skill, then a gun that doesn't.

And I could own the P90 with a DE, so I use the DE.

There, get it?

you say its a noob gun because its easy to kill with it, but then you say that its easy to kill a p90 noob with a eagle

really the only gun its hard to kill with is the automatic pistol. I think all pros should use that gun :D

shooter65
07-04-2008, 03:48 AM
I use the P90 to get kills for the 18 sniper rifle gun. <.< But I only do that sometimes because most of the time I easily get 18 kills with the Colt M4 so I rarely use it.

DariuS
07-04-2008, 05:15 AM
Puffer is just a retard, P90 isnt noobish every gun on here is THERE to be USED so just stfu bout how "noobish" it is.

Rlly after hearing the word noob on xbl or from a person outside of ur sad lives at pawn.
Hmmm...you would see that the word is pretty dumb.

poe101591
07-04-2008, 05:47 AM
Puffer is just a retard, P90 isnt noobish every gun on here is THERE to be USED so just stfu bout how "noobish" it is.

Rlly after hearing the word noob on xbl or from a person outside of ur sad lives at pawn.
Hmmm...you would see that the word is pretty dumb.

correct, it kinda is a weird word to use....i guess just another insult

KyubiNaruto
07-04-2008, 09:33 AM
When I'm forced to use L2K, I get 1 hit KO full screen a heck alot.

Your dropping the 1337 argument which spawned from Kyubis retard senses that it's fascist, because what I said is true, and what you said was false.

And I said most can't get a HS. if you wish to debate, please read thoroughly.
I use P90 when being camped against or another 2 people on other team have it.

well you know what man, you gotta stop being a jerk ok, if a mod were to read all the flaming you did to me you ot to get an infraction

And Arabftw123, maybe I was using the word "facist" in the wrong kind of text but HonorP00ner was there to back me up

this is a war of pawn that wont be settled with any arguement, accually it may never be settled because humans have the right of thought, and know one can do anything about it, all we can do is offer our opinion, and have veiwers see it how ever they want

Idk who ever is winning the 1337 rule vs P90, SG, and UMP users?

KyubiNaruto
07-04-2008, 09:38 AM
If you agree to something, it's not fascist.
you retard, stop trying to look cool by ripping Kyubinarnoobs statements.

sorry for duble post, see you really are being a jerk,

just holding someone under contract doesnt tell them anything, it just "suggests" what they "should likely do". no he isnt trying to be kool because he is OFFERING HIS OPINION, and ust because he offered it doesnt mean it has to help anyone of the sort. As long as its relevant to the thread.

and you purposly spelt my name with noob... just shows that you are stubborn and instead of attacking the arguement, you tell other people they are retarded and basicly say "your opinion doesnt count" thats really what you are saying to me and other users

Hyjal
07-04-2008, 11:45 AM
Why blame the P-90...
I use it, and no1 Gives
Im also a SG Camper, so what?
And stop Flaming about this Weap...
If it's in the Game, it's left in
So just go and Rank up, or Hang

-Hyjal
:cool:

xfinalx
07-04-2008, 11:55 AM
sorry for duble post, see you really are being a jerk,

just holding someone under contract doesnt tell them anything, it just "suggests" what they "should likely do". no he isnt trying to be kool because he is OFFERING HIS OPINION, and ust because he offered it doesnt mean it has to help anyone of the sort. As long as its relevant to the thread.

and you purposly spelt my name with noob... just shows that you are stubborn and instead of attacking the arguement, you tell other people they are retarded and basicly say "your opinion doesnt count" thats really what you are saying to me and other users
You have to AGREE to 1337 rules, THAT'S NOT FASCIST.
Fascist is FORCING someone to do what you want.

and he offered his opinion that was what you said, he ripped your idea, and you defended him.
Just go back and watch Naruto...you have not a single valid point.

Ravin
07-04-2008, 12:12 PM
P90 = Almost no skill to use.

Nubs = Use guns that take little skill to use.

That is why it's a nub gun, enough said. :|

I could own any noobs with the DE, a gun that actually takes skill to use.
I agree

Also, this is Spam -_-
There are countless locked threads about the p90 :\

Just shut up and live with it...

xfinalx
07-04-2008, 01:10 PM
I agree

Also, this is Spam -_-
There are countless locked threads about the p90 :\

Just shut up and live with it...
Or you could shut up and realize this one isn't a whole spam fest, it's a debate.

Longgone
07-04-2008, 01:32 PM
It's funny that so many people get mad over a game geez, just play it, no need for threads about noob guns, their free of choice to anyone. Who cares really? Most of this crap is just childish. -.-

xfinalx
07-04-2008, 01:52 PM
It's funny that so many people get mad over a game geez, just play it, no need for threads about noob guns, their free of choice to anyone. Who cares really? Most of this crap is just childish. -.-
Then why post -.-

dragonmaster101
07-04-2008, 01:52 PM
people also say it's laggy and stuff is that true? i sometimes use but not always

xfinalx
07-04-2008, 01:53 PM
people also say it's laggy and stuff is that true? i sometimes use but not always
it causes lag on slow connections yeah.

Ankka
07-05-2008, 11:51 AM
Im a p90 nub sometimes, but I usually skip it and go straight to g36c:D

manixxx
07-05-2008, 12:11 PM
How about you tell Mr.Blank101 to remove the P90 cause its a noob gun?

EPBxTylordx
07-05-2008, 12:28 PM
i love p90. i use it because

1) it makes some people angry beyond belief.
2) it has lots of ammo.
3) its easy to get (most of the time)
and 4) its short enough that i can use it to camp more effectively :D.

(im jk about that last one guys)

SeniorApples
07-05-2008, 12:28 PM
sorry for double post, YEA P90 USERS AND PROUD OF IT FO EVA!!!!

well if the MK48 isnt called a noob gun because of how expensive it is, thats just because when you obtain KC for the MK48 every one else has a sufficient weapon, and if the P90 was 18KC or 20KC, maybe people wouldn't complain about it as much... (Thoughts?)

I wonder if that would change anything...

KyubiNaruto
07-05-2008, 02:29 PM
You have to AGREE to 1337 rules, THAT'S NOT FASCIST.
Fascist is FORCING someone to do what you want.

and he offered his opinion that was what you said, he ripped your idea, and you defended him.
Just go back and watch Naruto...you have not a single valid point.

yea ok, you are so dead wrong, you are being stubborn and, I dont give a crap what you have to say about Naruto because I like it and you dont, dont bring up my account and any relevance yo Naruto ever, its completely Irrelevante.

He was simply AGREEING with my statement, which means I DO HAVE A VALID POINT, honorP00ner has the same Idea and so does that other user, you havent made any contributions toward the thread

and (for HonorP00ner) P90 does have relevance to 1337 rules because of what its involved of.

(for xfinalx) It is facist, because when you agree, you are getting to other peson to do what you want them to do or believe, just what HonorP00ner said, and the other user was restating what I said in his own text.

he did not rip off my Idea, he restated my idea, in his own text (its called Paraphrasing)

You also when you quoted my last Post, you deleted the part about where you were flaming me and others you called me a retard 3 times, and you told tman340 down with basicly saying that his opinion doesnt count, and now you are avoiding it

KyubiNaruto
07-05-2008, 02:30 PM
How about you tell Mr.Blank101 to remove the P90 cause its a noob gun?

no because there is nothing wrong with the P90, ppl just think its bad when there are counters to the p90, and they wont remove it just because it is opinionated as a "noob gun", it needs more of a reason than that

sorry for duble post,

EPBxTylordx
07-05-2008, 03:04 PM
if anything they should get rid of the protogun! theres nothing wrong with the p90 and just cuz you get pwnd when someone uses it you get angry. maybe you should use the p90 instead of calling it a n00b gun!

KyubiNaruto
07-05-2008, 08:12 PM
very exact suggestion, but ppl just dont do it, they keep resisting and get their buts handed to them =D