Spygate?

[Calisniper13]

anyone who follows the NFL has to know about the Patriots videotaping scandal known as "Spygate" If you dont know about it basically Bill Belichick videotaped opponents signals to try and attain some sort of advantage although there is debate about whether knowing the signals would be significant...but now many people feel the Patriot dynasty is tainted by the scandal so how do YOU feel? Do you think they are tainted?No?Does it matter to you?

[arabftw123]

As much as I hate the Cheatriots, there is not enough evidence to say they cheated in their Super Bowl victories. :confused:

[EvAn26]

Bill Belicheat i mean check didn't even know that was against the rules so they can keep the super bowl rings forever and ever

[DariuS]

Dont hate on my patriots.
And the only SuperBowl the players from the rams in 2002 was the only game they heard of and they dont have a tape from that.

Stop BEING HATERS!!
Matt Walsh licks sweaty buttcracks!

[greb]

umm wth is this:|

If you dont have anything relivent to the thread, dont post. If you dont know anything about American sports, than this section is probably not where you want to be.

Anyway, the spygate thing was brought up several weeks into the season. The patriots went undefeated. That means they beat every single team they faced before, and after the scandal. I dont think it gave them much of an advantage. Theres only so much you can learn from video taping signals. Its not like they had their playbook.

[Hyjal]

Im pretty sure this was on the news a few months ago...
Talkin bout 1 NFL filming Moves so they can win or have a better Advantage too

[patriotsrock]

For the super bowl agains't the rams they didn't tape anything.
and as dairus said don't hate because they are good.

And taping agains't the jets, the jets wouldn't win anyways. They had a good season but with people saying they cheated.

[EvAn26]

I'm not hating i got a bunch of patriots stuff but still they cheated.

[Calisniper13]

Anyway, the spygate thing was brought up several weeks into the season. The patriots went undefeated. That means they beat every single team they faced before, and after the scandal. I dont think it gave them much of an advantage. Theres only so much you can learn from video taping signals. Its not like they had their playbook.

actually they got caught in week 1 against the JETS... if you have to steal the JETS signals how good can you actually be?

[sY]

They cheated, 'nuff said.

[Desipio]

Greb, the 'spygate' was found, and yes they did go undefeated. They are good. But what about when they played the Colts in like the 4th game. They may not have won if they hadnt been taping. Patriots cheated, they dont deserve ANYTHING.

[RogerTheRabbit]

The Pariots do not deserve any of their championship rings and its for one reason, the 2001 AFC Divisional Playoff Game. The so-called tuck rule screwed the Raiders over, who were supposed to win. I will forver hate the Patriots for that bad call. They likely would not be where they are today if it wasnt for the retarded referees.

[Dax]

The Pariots do not deserve any of their championship rings and its for one reason, the 2001 AFC Divisional Playoff Game. The so-called tuck rule screwed the Raiders over, who were supposed to win. I will forver hate the Patriots for that bad call. They likely would not be where they are today if it wasnt for the retarded referees.

Dang it took the words right out of my mouth. I hated that game and I am not even a raiders fan.

[greb]

Nice spygate story i found in the post:


Guarantee you that no one in the Denver media is surprised the New England Patriots have done a poor job of cracking the Broncos' signals.

Is it possible for a team to guard its practices and game plans more than Mike Shanahan's Broncos? This organization may have laid off eight front-office and stadium employees two months ago, but those strong men with dark sunglasses and crossed arms continue to peer beyond the stone wall that surrounds the Dove Valley practice fields.

In the latest revelation of Spygate, evidence is overwhelming the Patriots had been illegally videotaping opposing coaches' signals from the 2000 season until the first game of 2007, when the New York Jets finally snitched.

Many teams were identified as victims, but not the Broncos. The Pats are 1-5 against the Broncos since the start of the 2001 season.

The Broncos' secretive nature, and their success against the Pats, can't be a coincidence.

Don't ask Broncos tight end Daniel Graham about the Pats' past practices. The future is fine, but Graham did not come to Dove Valley to talk about the past.

"I could care less about what the Patriots do," Graham said. "I don't play for them anymore. I'm a Bronco now. I look forward to playing them this year. But I don't have that game circled on the schedule, yet. We've got Oakland first."

Now, that's a well-schooled football player. All players are conditioned to live in the now. Which is why an estimated zero players are losing sleep over the possibility NFL owners will lock them out in 2011. Most players understand they will be lucky if they're part of a 2011 lockout.

"Maybe I'll be on 'Dancing with the Stars' by then," said John Lynch, laughing in reference an Internet blog suggesting he would be an ideal candidate for the popular show.

Even the Broncos' game Oct. 20 in Foxborough isn't worth more than a cursory glance (and perhaps an early prayer that Tom Brady plays on a sprained ankle), not when Denver opens in the Black Hole on Sept. 8.

As for Graham, chances are he's younger than you think. That 2002 Super Bowl when the Patriots didn't illegally videotape, but did illegally observe, the walkthrough of their heavily favored opponent, the St. Louis Rams?

Graham still belonged to the University of Colorado at the time. It wasn't until a few months later that Graham became the Patriots' first-round draft choice and later helped them win two more Super Bowls.

"I wasn't with them for that Super Bowl against the Rams, so whatever happened doesn't concern me," Graham said.

Other than 18 meaningless games, the Pats haven't won a thing without him. The Broncos won only seven meaningless games with Graham last year, but in the end, what difference does it make how many you've won unless you win the Big One?

Graham thinks both he and the only team he cares about will have a much better season this year. He had 24 catches as a blocking tight end for the 7-9 Broncos in 2007, even though he essentially missed the final three games with a high ankle sprain.

"I feel real good," he said. "The offense is coming much easier to me this year. I don't have to stop and think about what I'm supposed to do like I did at this time last year. I'm much more relaxed and comfortable with the system. I think we're going to have a real good offense this year."

Graham was talking seconds after the Broncos completed one of the offseason practices last week that the media was not allowed to observe past the team stretch. When Graham was finished offering nothing about his past, he turned and walked toward the Broncos' locker room, where the media is forbidden except for select days during the regular season.

If the Pats are going to beat the Broncos on Oct. 20, they'll have to beat them fair and square.



Haha, Bronocs 1. Patriots 0.

[Calisniper13]

I would not have expected for the Broncos to be 5-1 against the "dynasty" Patriots..