View Full Version : May Day Police Brutality
Stillwater1
04-27-2008, 09:03 PM
Background: On May, immigration protesters were attacked by the LA Police, why am I not surprised?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1kEu6eRklo
^video on actual event
When war stares you in the face - dressed in black.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg218/Ill_Sky/mayday.jpg
Usual stuff, no c4ds. Didn't come out as good as I would have wanted it to but meh, I suck at finding good stocks =P
SketchZ
04-27-2008, 09:17 PM
I remember hearing about this. Didn't see the video but.. now.. that's pretty much dumbstruck me. What cruelty. Freedom Of Speech, a peaceful protect, and the police changed it up by shooting rubber bullets.
IrishOwnzNewbz
04-27-2008, 09:23 PM
I wanna go to the May Day protests with a sign that says, "I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence" on it. That would rune
Stillwater1
04-28-2008, 03:22 AM
^ lol
there's no freedom of speech if you ask me... they make it seem like there is, but there is so much.... SO MUCH that happens/happened in which we can't speak else we'll have our sh*t pushed in.
For a second there, I had the feeling I was gonna get verbally spanked with comments like "The police have the right to use deadly force to keep order."
Illegal immigrants campaigning for rights? You have no rights, your illegal, so shut it.
My parents came here at age 19, with no money, no English, and now are millionaires. So don't try to give me that whole "better life" spiel. We let millions of immigrants into America legally. If they don't want to wait to do it legally, they can go to Europe. I hear Paris is nice.
As for the sig... Well, its nice but could use something. I don't know what, but it just looks unfinished. I do like the text though. That looks really nice.
maggerz
04-28-2008, 02:45 PM
Greb i agree with you in some parts, yes immigration has been overloaded and i guess the government are getting tired of it, but not all people are like your parents, some people were not as lucky as you and your parents, but if the cops want to disperse people, they shouldn't be doing it with rubber bullets, these things can give u bruises that last for about 2 weeks or so, i got shot by a rubber bullet before, about 4 years ago, in my grandfathers house, Israeli forces entered the house, shot me with a rubber bullet for no reason, and it turns out they just stationed a sniper at the guestroom window. But dont think of me as a terrorist, im just stating my opinion.
For the sig, the liquifying is great, but your style is getting a little stale, why not try using a few c4ds once in a while?
The sig looks a little plain, maybe its just the stock, i know its hard to work with, try adding a light source maybe.
I say ur skull and bones sig is ur best....to date.
Greb i agree with you in some parts, yes immigration has been overloaded and i guess the government are getting tired of it, but not all people are like your parents, some people were not as lucky as you and your parents, but if the cops want to disperse people, they shouldn't be doing it with rubber bullets, these things can give u bruises that last for about 2 weeks or so, i got shot by a rubber bullet before, about 4 years ago, in my grandfathers house, Israeli forces entered the house, shot me with a rubber bullet for no reason, and it turns out they just stationed a sniper at the guestroom window. But dont think of me as a terrorist, im just stating my opinion.
Luck has nothing to do with it. My parents cleaned toilets and delivered pizzas while attending school and learning the language as they went. Then, when my dad opened his business, it involved 16-18 hour days for years to get it booming. Immigrants 20+ years ago were willing to give it their all, and suffer for a while to get what they want. Now a days they expect the government to give them a free ride. Welfare, free health-care, food-stamps, etc... My parents didn't get that. They worked for all they had. Now i have to take the taxes i pay that should be going to homeland security, homelessness, poverty, education, streets and bridge repair, etc... And instead i feed, house, and provide medical help for an illegal family of 6? I don't think so Skippy. There is NO justice in that.
Vexus
04-28-2008, 03:40 PM
Luck has nothing to do with it. My parents cleaned toilets and delivered pizzas while attending school and learning the language as they went. Then, when my dad opened his business, it involved 16-18 hour days for years to get it booming. Immigrants 20+ years ago were willing to give it their all, and suffer for a while to get what they want. Now a days they expect the government to give them a free ride. Welfare, free health-care, food-stamps, etc... My parents didn't get that. They worked for all they had. Now i have to take the taxes i pay that should be going to homeland security, homelessness, poverty, education, streets and bridge repair, etc... And instead i feed, house, and provide medical help for an illegal family of 6? I don't think so Skippy. There is NO justice in that.
Pwned in the butt...
But at my school people call me an illegal immigrant/border hopper/mexican jumping bean just because im mexican, and it pisses me off so much that i want to beat their faces into the concrete.
I am 100% behind greb on this one. Illegal immigrants drain social services, overload prisons, reduce wages, and don't pay taxes. The drain on California's medical system is so great that it is on the brink of collapse. A Texas man couldn't get treatment for his child but illegal immigrants who didn't pay for health care could. This is ridiculous, BORDERS, LANGUAGE, CULTURE. No birth rite citizenship either that is just stupid. It was set up a century ago in order to take care of registering all the immigrants in a more efficient manner. Now a person can be pregnant, come across the border have a baby and that baby is a citizen. Crazy
Vexus
04-28-2008, 03:49 PM
i saw some crap on this on nick news with linda ellerbee, and i thought "just cuz some crazy lady is pregnant and needs to have her baby and happens to be in the U.S. when she has it makes the baby a citizen?!" thats just bull, I say if you need it so bad, go through the process like a normal U.S. Citizen just like the old days, and stop wasting all our money and turning the economy into pure crap.
Edit: theres over 7 open houses JUST ON MY STREET, these people used to live a happy life, now they need to sell their wonderful houses, JUST TO MEET ENDS MEET, and so that dirty drunkard can get his blood poisoning tests and jack $10,000 from the common wealth!
Stillwater1
04-28-2008, 05:28 PM
Dude, wtf? Ever heard of we're one? One world? Why do we seperate the Earth and claim it as if we made it? Hell, dude, this place IS of almost pure immigrants. Unless you're a native american warrior, I could bet you you're an immigrant.
I myself wasn't born here, but I have gone through the proper steps to become a citizen. I've already become a resident but still need to keep living here for about another year or two max to become a full citizen (they have you wait many years). I live RIGHT ON the border (Yuma, Arizona) with Mexico so I know half of the deal.
Do you really see all these 'illegal immigrants' as evil coming in? They don't come in trying to ruin nothing. lol, you make it sound like it's an invasion of 'unwanted people'. Kinda sounds like racism.. I mean:
...happens to be in the U.S. when she has it makes the baby a citizen?!" thats just bull,
yea it is bull, but so is the other way around. So it's OK if you're White American? But it's almost a sin if it's a different race? THAT is bull. They judge based on where you was born? Or race? Either way, it's dumb. It's luck really, you don't choose where u want to be born.
Kinda sounds like "If you want to come into our stolen land, then you have to suffer like a pig and pay us thousands" (you have to pay thousands to get in in case you didn't know). That whole 'you have no rights' thing is as dumb as it gets imo lol
Besides, the illegal immigrants don't get as much help as you make it sound dude... there's lots of suffering involved. In the end though, the police brutality involved was not needed. My sig was focusing on such brutality, not that much on immigration... but yea =P What i'm trying to say is that people say 'oh, it was just a one time thing'. No, police brutality is everywhere, daily I bet. Sometimes it's masked.. I myself have been a victim.
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as for the sig =
yeah, maybe I'll try and get a hold of some c4ds for once lol. I just like liquify/smudge and all that good stuff 'cuz you can guide it to wherever you want
vSkyzv
04-28-2008, 07:45 PM
Dude, wtf? Ever heard of we're one? One world? Why do we seperate the Earth and claim it as if we made it? Hell, dude, this place IS of almost pure immigrants. Unless you're a native american warrior, I could bet you you're an immigrant.
I myself wasn't born here, but I have gone through the proper steps to become a citizen. I've already become a resident but still need to keep living here for about another year or two max to become a full citizen (they have you wait many years). I live RIGHT ON the border (Yuma, Arizona) with Mexico so I know half of the deal.
Do you really see all these 'illegal immigrants' as evil coming in? They don't come in trying to ruin nothing. lol, you make it sound like it's an invasion of 'unwanted people'. Kinda sounds like racism.. I mean:
yea it is bull, but so is the other way around. So it's OK if you're White American? But it's almost a sin if it's a different race? THAT is bull. They judge based on where you was born? Or race? Either way, it's dumb. It's luck really, you don't choose where u want to be born.
Kinda sounds like "If you want to come into our stolen land, then you have to suffer like a pig and pay us thousands" (you have to pay thousands to get in in case you didn't know). That whole 'you have no rights' thing is as dumb as it gets imo lol
Besides, the illegal immigrants don't get as much help as you make it sound dude... there's lots of suffering involved. In the end though, the police brutality involved was not needed. My sig was focusing on such brutality, not that much on immigration... but yea =P What i'm trying to say is that people say 'oh, it was just a one time thing'. No, police brutality is everywhere, daily I bet. Sometimes it's masked.. I myself have been a victim.
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as for the sig =
yeah, maybe I'll try and get a hold of some c4ds for once lol. I just like liquify/smudge and all that good stuff 'cuz you can guide it to wherever you want
Every time you post it's always ignorance.
My parents were immigrants but they aren't getting deported. Why? Because they came here legally.
Also, illegals don't have rights. The U.S. constitution only applies to U.S. citizens.
Dude, wtf? Ever heard of we're one? One world? Why do we seperate the Earth and claim it as if we made it? Hell, dude, this place IS of almost pure immigrants. Unless you're a native american warrior, I could bet you you're an immigrant.
I myself wasn't born here, but I have gone through the proper steps to become a citizen. I've already become a resident but still need to keep living here for about another year or two max to become a full citizen (they have you wait many years). I live RIGHT ON the border (Yuma, Arizona) with Mexico so I know half of the deal.
Do you really see all these 'illegal immigrants' as evil coming in? They don't come in trying to ruin nothing. lol, you make it sound like it's an invasion of 'unwanted people'. Kinda sounds like racism.. I mean:
yea it is bull, but so is the other way around. So it's OK if you're White American? But it's almost a sin if it's a different race? THAT is bull. They judge based on where you was born? Or race? Either way, it's dumb. It's luck really, you don't choose where u want to be born.
Kinda sounds like "If you want to come into our stolen land, then you have to suffer like a pig and pay us thousands" (you have to pay thousands to get in in case you didn't know). That whole 'you have no rights' thing is as dumb as it gets imo lol
Besides, the illegal immigrants don't get as much help as you make it sound dude... there's lots of suffering involved. In the end though, the police brutality involved was not needed. My sig was focusing on such brutality, not that much on immigration... but yea =P What i'm trying to say is that people say 'oh, it was just a one time thing'. No, police brutality is everywhere, daily I bet. Sometimes it's masked.. I myself have been a victim.
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as for the sig =
yeah, maybe I'll try and get a hold of some c4ds for once lol. I just like liquify/smudge and all that good stuff 'cuz you can guide it to wherever you want
What world do you live in? The world will NEVER be at peace or unified. As long as there are men, there will be war. There is no stopping it, ever. Now, our country was formed 200 years ago and over the years we have grown into what we are today. Sure, throughout that time, millions of people immigrated to America. We were a developing country and at the rate of our expansion west we needed people. Well, that is now at an end. Now were are dealing with overcrowding in the cities and the streets. We need to stop letting in all these people, because there is simply no room, and no jobs. Now your going to tell me its right that once these people are denied, they can take their entire family and just sneak in? And after sneaking in, they campain for rights they dont deserve, and get help that isnt theirs to get? Im sorry that life in Mexico sucks. I really am. But that does NOT give you the right to come to my country, and make my life worse so that yours can be better.
We need to close the border completely, and end this "invasion." Im sick of pressing 1 for English, im sick of all my radio stations going out of business to make way for "Latino and proud." If they move here, they learn our language, and they conform to our customs. They aren't moving to Mexico jr. They're moving to America. If they cant conform to our ways then go the hell home, because im not changing for anyone.
As for your opinion that they used excessive force. Its quite simple really. The cops said leave, no one left. The cops physically arived to make them leave, no one left. If they're going to disaboy the police, then they are going to get reprimanded. Let me give you a hint. If your told by a cop to leave, leave. If you dont, then dont whine and moan when they force you too. I have no sympathy for idiots.
JediLucas5
04-28-2008, 08:06 PM
I don't know why you guys seem to argue over the facts. We are immigrants, but what you don't get, immigration was LEGAL when our ancestors came, the American government was wanting immigrants into the country, to help economic growth etc. Now in a time like this, the last thing we need are some Latinos and Hispanics stealing the money we worked so hard for. Stillwater1, before coming in as a hero, you need to look at all the sides of the situation, not just the "innocent" side (which half the time is never even innocent).
I would like to also state, nice use of System of a Down lyrics. Favorite band, too bad they broke up (inb4 there getting back together, Daron has a family to take care of now, it will never happen). I listen to a lot of Serj Tankian and Cradle of Filth now.
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