Should Abusing Glitches be Considered Cheating?

[vSkyzv]

Well just earlier I went into a game and a yellow arrowhead rank named Cleansing started killing me and my teammates even though he was on my team. I know this is a glitch and NOT A HACK but I think he should still be banned for what he done.

#1) He abused a glitch to get lots of kills and a low K\D. If it weren't for the other team he would had no deaths but lots of kills.

#2) Me and my team shouted constantly at him to stop and that he was killing his own teammates. He didn't even acknowledged us!. Since we did shout at him about him abusing the glitch, HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS WRONG. This means he was basically using the glitch as an excuse for padding.
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Also by glitch I just mean this glitch and not others... So do you think abusing glitches should be punishable?

[hchanman]

Yes.

This has happened to me before, it is both annoying, rude, and disrespectful. Exploiting glitches for your own personal is illegal in many other online games and should be in Pawn too. If someone abuses a glitch, they should be punished for it because they kill the fun for everyone else.

[CHiNback]

You've gotta define glitch.

Hiii Jump contains a glitch; does it mean I can't maze?







I'm kidding. I know what you mean. When I get a glitch like this, I restart PAWN. Everyone should too.

[Tman340]

well i am not sure how these glitches work. I dont know if they radomly happen or they are downloaded. If they radomly happen then no a ban for this is crazy especially if its not your fault for the glitch. Now on the other hand if the glitch is downloaded or put on the game then a ban is acceptable. anyways if it randomly happens to people dont say that you wouldn't kill your team anyway the teamates get in the way and they get killed so there really is no way to stop the glitch so if someone is team killing by the glitch there really isnt anything that can be done, so i am not sure what should be done in the case of a glitcher.

[vSkyzv]

You've gotta define glitch.

Hiii Jump contains a glitch; does it mean I can't maze?







I'm kidding. I know what you mean. When I get a glitch like this, I restart PAWN. Everyone should too.

Yeah but it was only one person who had the glitch. He could have left and even if he didn't know the glitch we told it to him. Therefore he was just padding.

well i am not sure how these glitches work. I dont know if they radomly happen or they are downloaded. If they radomly happen then no a ban for this is crazy especially if its not your fault for the glitch. Now on the other hand if the glitch is downloaded or put on the game then a ban is acceptable. anyways if it randomly happens to people dont say that you wouldn't kill your team anyway the teamates get in the way and they get killed so there really is no way to stop the glitch so if someone is team killing by the glitch there really isnt anything that can be done, so i am not sure what should be done in the case of a glitcher.

Sorry about the double posting but for convenience's sake...

It was a random glitch but I will explain why he should still be banned...

Lets just say you own a bakery and you accidentally get a shipment of tainted flour.

#1) Its not your fault that you have tainted flour.

#2) However the people who sent you the flour say its tainted.

#3) Now you know the flour is tainted. But if you still make bread with it, then it is now your fault if anybody gets sick.

This is just like the incident. The person got the glitch on accident. However, we told him he was killing his own teammates. Even though we said he was killing his own teammates... he kept on killing. That is why he should be banned.

We told him about 20 times he was exploiting a glitch. Instead of listening to us... he kept on padding.

[Tman340]

as you said about the flour there is a difference between teamkilling and tainted flour, first off teamkilling will not make anyone sick or harm anyone's health or well being unlike the tainted flour. second its a radom glitch so how can you ban someone yeah they expolited it but its like "o yeah the game messed up and glitched it wasn't your fault for this but you killed a team mate so... your banned". thats horrible so you really cant ban them. but if you see someone expoliting a glitch dont yell and scream instead leave the game and find another game becuase there is nothing you can really do to stop them and don't say ban them.

[vSkyzv]

as you said about the flour there is a difference between teamkilling and tainted flour, first off teamkilling will not make anyone sick or harm anyone's health or well being unlike the tainted flour. second its a radom glitch so how can you ban someone yeah they expolited it but its like "o yeah the game messed up and glitched it wasn't your fault for this but you killed a team mate so... your banned". thats horrible so you really cant ban them. but if you see someone expoliting a glitch dont yell and scream instead leave the game and find another game becuase there is nothing you can really do to stop them and don't say ban them.

Why shouldn't he be banned?

I have a better example...

Lets say I accidentally triple post due to lag. Now lets say you tell me to not click the submit reply button so many times (thats how double\triple posting works). If I still double post... shouldn't I be banned?

Also you are missing the point!

The tainted flower is like the glitch.

The bakery owners are like Cleansing.

The victims would be me and my teammates.

Cleansing like the bakery owners knew they were doing something wrong but they still kept on doing it. Shouldn't you stop doing something if you know its wrong?

PLEASE READ MY WHOLE POSTS!

[Tman340]

i agree with you but unfornatly in the world we live in most people will not do the right thing and you have to deal with it, should he be banned i dont think so because of the glitch is not his fault, yeah he should have stopped but think about it how many people would stop?.

[boomfrogg]

I Personally Would have Continued If It Were Someone I hated On My Team But I Would Only Kill Them One time... Then I Would Leave The Game And Turn Myself In..I Would Do So Because I Truly Care About Pawn And It's Wonderful Community.I Believe Cleansing SHOULD Get A Ban For Abusing, But Only A Warning Length Ban. As In A Two Day Ban Or So.

[Tman340]

I Personally Would have Continued If It Were Someone I hated On My Team But I Would Only Kill Them One time... Then I Would Leave The Game And Turn Myself In..I Would Do So Because I Truly Care About Pawn And It's Wonderful Community.

its good to see your a honest person my telling the truth but turing your self in will either have the mods dying of laughter saying " lol this one guy turned himself in for a glitch ahahaha" or it could be like jumping out in front a moving bus.

[boomfrogg]

True I Would Get Laughed At But You Are Talking To A Person Who Turned Themself In For Swearing.

[poe101591]

honor ever hacker i've seen that uses the health refill and the free kc(they come into a game and get high guns even when the game just started)
have use this glitch, this makes me belive that there is a way for them to hack it and use it to there own needs. Plus there is already a thread about him in the fourms.

[hchanman]

Seriously, if you repeatedly abuse this glitch even when your teammates are YELLING that you are glitching, you should get banned. If I glitch, I immediately leave, then rejoin the game. This eliminates the glitch. It's quite simple and never takes more than a few seconds, so what is the problem with these people that abuse glitches? They pad and ruin peoples fun.

[Seleucid]

Its not worth a cheater ban but we could inf them for abusing it.

A glitch is just useing a unknown "part" of the game to gain an atvantage over the other players.

[Surreality]

Well, yes.
He should be banned for abusing this "glitch"
I doubt it is a glitch, though.
Usually when this happens, the people have infinite k/c and shoot rapidly.
I think it's a new hack that has been found and this glitch is being exploited by people who re-code games so that this glitch occurs, usually because it's much more subtle than killing everyone at once with -1337 hp...

[arabftw123]

Agreed. That's happened to me a few times and it gets REALLY annoying.

[arabftw123]

I Personally Would have Continued If It Were Someone I hated On My Team But I Would Only Kill Them One time... Then I Would Leave The Game And Turn Myself In..I Would Do So Because I Truly Care About Pawn And It's Wonderful Community.I Believe Cleansing SHOULD Get A Ban For Abusing, But Only A Warning Length Ban. As In A Two Day Ban Or So.

Lmao I just read this. If I was a mod I'd tell you not to do it again while cracking up. That's very admirable of you, but... lol.

[Andrew02111]

Yeah abusing glitches should be considered cheating, Because the person that is doing it knows about it and takes advantage of the situation. So it is basically cheating.

[Tricky]

Shouldnt bee banned i mean who wouldnt carry on?

[LooZr66]

wats "padding"? sorry for the nooby question...

[vSkyzv]

Shouldnt bee banned i mean who wouldnt carry on?

I surprised at how dishonest you are. If you got that glitch you would just keep killing your teammates even if they tell you to stop?

Please leave Pawn immediately.

[CMD1]

people glitching in games happens alltoo often. we could resolve this by taking out the mazes and glitching and the jumps but that could also ruin the game.

[funkyben10]

ok ive seen this glitch thing first hand and i must admit its really dang annoying
but i mean comeon who wouldnt cheat (ive never though:) )

[vSkyzv]

ok ive seen this glitch thing first hand and i must admit its really dang annoying
but i mean comeon who wouldnt cheat (ive never though:) )

Cheating is against the rules. Only the n00bs would take this advantage.

[Calisniper13]

wats "padding"? sorry for the nooby question...

the best explanation i can think of is loggin on through two computers and repeatedly killing a "noob" account you have with your main account,thus rasing score,kills,and K/D without any deaths.
And abusing glitches should deserve a ban as its cheating

[Puffer]

Its very rare, so I say no. Maybe he didint even read what you said, he might not even know its wrong.

June 6, 1994 has a proslide glitch for cheating.

Area 51 has a invincibility glitch were you can just shot without being hurt in the wall.

But they're not quite the same...

[vSkyzv]

Its very rare, so I say no. Maybe he didint even read what you said, he might not even know its wrong.

June 6, 1994 has a proslide glitch for cheating.

Area 51 has a invincibility glitch were you can just shot without being hurt in the wall.

But they're not quite the same...

#1) We already know he's a hacker.
#2) I doubt anybody can just "not read" 20 messages saying it was wrong.

[arabftw123]

LooZr,

Padding is when someone let's someone else kill them without putting up a fight. Basically, its free kills.

[XxXHotShotXxX]

Yes..

It's a cheap way to earn more points

[Puffer]

#1) We already know he's a hacker.
#2) I doubt anybody can just "not read" 20 messages saying it was wrong.

In a way it is kinda hard not to read a message.

But this glitch rarley happens.

So a few unlucky people a day might have to face bans just for abusing glitches. If it got out of control with him killing like that through the whole game then I would call it a ban.

[vSkyzv]

In a way it is kinda hard not to read a message.

But this glitch rarley happens.

So a few unlucky people a day might have to face bans just for abusing glitches. If it got out of control with him killing like that through the whole game then I would call it a ban.

I know this is a rare glitch. That is why we tried to tell him that. He knew what he was doing. He knew he was cheating.

[Antzz]

Antzz,

Okay first of honor, its not padding. Padding is where you kill yourself. And i dont think you should be banned for it. Even though he knew what he was doing was "wrong" why didnt you just leave?

- Antzz

[vSkyzv]

Antzz,

Okay first of honor, its not padding. Padding is where you kill yourself. And i dont think you should be banned for it. Even though he knew what he was doing was "wrong" why didnt you just leave?

- Antzz

Well...

#1) How selfish of him would it be to continue killing your teammates even though you know it is a glitch?
#2) It would even be more selfish to make 4 people leave when all that is needed is for you to lave.

[Antzz]

Antzz,


I see where your coming from now. Sorry i was a little confused. I don't think it should banned, but i think possibly a warning? i mean its not like they asked for the game to glitch, even thoough they continued in doing it. So maybe just a warning? screenie it, and keep a collection?

- Antzz

[vSkyzv]

Antzz,


I see where your coming from now. Sorry i was a little confused. I don't think it should banned, but i think possibly a warning? i mean its not like they asked for the game to glitch, even thoough they continued in doing it. So maybe just a warning? screenie it, and keep a collection?

- Antzz

I think the players yelling at them is a warning but you are right. They shouldn't be banned. Depending on the situation, at least the player will receive a warning at first then a ban second.

[Antzz]

Antzz,

So it's all sorted out? We all got the right information? To all you players out there: If you see someone glitching tell them that you have taken a screenie "actualy take one though" and say if your caught again you will be punished? is that right honor? 1st time warning? 2nd time punishment?

- Antzz

[Moran]

Abusing glitches oh yes... people who use glitches, hack, etc... are noobs... not to mention they ruin the game.:mad:

[laughingleapard]

Hell yea, it is cheating just simply said

[foot1221]

I would easily give him an infraction for cheating. What a lot of people don't realise is that cheating is only a three day ban (longer if you get kicked often). He can take three days worth of vacation for abusing glitches lol...

Unless of corse the game is custom.

[Galm]

Depends on the glitch severity, if it's the padding excuse one that you mentioned then yes they should...

Infact I reckon that if ANY glitch is done on a ladder match, they should be p00nished..:D

If it's a custom match it doesn't really matter, I know it's annoying but you can just leave the game.. (Mazes are soo annoying with glitchers, but that's what you do in a Maze I guess :P)

[taddcf]

well... maybe...
I know, i use the glitch in June 6. It is kinda cheap... but i don't use it that often so yeah... they should be penalized

[spart]

Of course. Glitch = A bug in game that is used gain more advantage over other players. Also similar to cheating...:mad: