Colts@patriots

[jkiller82]

2 of the best QB's play. is the colts winnig streak over?

[nvrmor]

Colts are gonna win

[Calisniper13]

Brady will pick apart a Colts secondary ravaged by injuries.

[liquidnitrogen]

The Colts defense will definitly have their work cut out for them considering all the injuries to our secondary. They will be without Bob Sanders(Big Surpise huh), Marlin Jackson, and Kelvin Hayden. Two Rookie Cornerbacks will be starting for the Colts but those same rookies didnt do too bad against Matt Schaub and the Texans last week and surprisingly Schaub is leading the leauge in passing yards so thats saying something.
I think it all depends if the Colts offense can get it going, if they get some kind of running game going and some good production from Clark and Wayne I see no reason why they cant win the game. Oh yah and I think Manning is playing so that should help =P

Colts-31
Patriots-24


PS. Its actually Patriots@Colts which is also a big advantage for Indy.

[AmFuFu345]

idk this is gonna be a tough game to call but i think colts will win 35-31

[Dax]

Eh, it'll be close. I'm a big colts fan so I'm really hoping they'll win but it's not a sure thing by any stretch. I'd be inclined to give the colts a 1-TD edge because I don't think the Patriot's secondary is going to be any more effective then the colt's will be.

[TeleBelly]

lmao, the pats will clearly win. You are all badly mistaken and underestimating the patriots offense. The guy that said the pats would only get 24 points vs the colts defense? Are you joking me right now? All I have to say, is good luck Indy. It will be a 14+ point difference win for the Patriots.

[PrettyTony]

lmao, the pats will clearly win. You are all badly mistaken and underestimating the patriots offense. The guy that said the pats would only get 24 points vs the colts defense? Are you joking me right now? All I have to say, is good luck Indy. It will be a 14+ point difference win for the Patriots.

We will see even though I don't want the Patriots to win I think they will since the Colts are missing about 4 starters on defense.

I don't see the Patriots winning by 14 tho that is absurd.

Colts are also at home so, when Tom Brady is on the field he wont be able to hear a damn thing(Look what happened to him when the Jets beat the Patriots @ Giants stadium..Brady looked lost.)
Manning will have complete silence when he is on the field which is a gigantic advantage.

[liquidnitrogen]

You do realize the Colts defense has only allowed 13.5 points per game this season? Probably not right...I can tell

Tom Brady was facing 2 rookie cornerbacks last week and the Patriots only put up 27 points, Brady even threw an interception. What makes you think they will put up more points on the best scoring defense in the leauge?

[PrettyTony]

You do realize the Colts defense has only allowed 13.5 points per game this season? Probably not right...I can tell

Tom Brady was facing 2 rookie cornerbacks last week and the Patriots only put up 27 points, Brady even threw an interception. What makes you think they will put up more points on the best scoring defense in the leauge?

He is a patriots fan don't even ask that question.

He obviously expects Coach Belichick to steal some tapes to make sure they win the game.

[liquidnitrogen]

I know I said 24 earlier, but lets change that to 17.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghmVMeMJgw8

[PrettyTony]

Lets turn this thread into a how is Bill Belichick still a coach in the NFL thread?


Hmmmmmmm????? SPYGATE.

[liquidnitrogen]

But he didnt know that video taping the other teams practices and signal calls were against the rules so its ok.

[PrettyTony]

But he didnt know that video taping the other teams practices and signal calls were against the rules so its ok.

Yeah i guess since he works for the Patriots its okay dont worry, but make sure if you aren't involved with the Patriots and do what he did you will be banished from the NFL!!

[liquidnitrogen]

Anyone Hungry?

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[ZuGgY69]

Anyone Hungry?

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t358/MarineX24/Cheaties.jpg

lmfao nice picture XD

[AmFuFu345]

Anyone Hungry?

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t358/MarineX24/Cheaties.jpg

lmao look at brady

[Timeline]

Maybe he put spy cameras in the board of directors' houses.

Who knows what secrets he may be hiding o_O

[DavidG363]

go colts! :]

[Calisniper13]

This thread has turned into a bawfest from the Jets fan and the Colts fan.

Stealing a team's signals only goes so far, you still have to be able to execute your own plays, and if you think Bellichick is the first guy to try to acquire a team's signals, then you are sorely mistaken. Teams do it all them time, not necessarily taping a team(though I would not put it past them), and in this league you do what you have to do to get wins. If Bellichick was coaching the Jets, I don't think you'd be bawing as much as you are, if at all, and the same thing goes to the Colts fan. You finally got your ring, and Im'ma let you finish, but Tom Brady is still the best quarterback of our time. He won with fewer weapons than Manning had(Harrison and Wayne, compared to whoever the hell the Patriots had during their run).

As a Jets fan, you can't talk down to a team you've only beaten once in your own Stadium since the year 2000, and only have three wins against since Brady took over. In the East, the only team that has any right to call out the Patriots is Miami, they always play New England close, and of the 9 losses Brady has in that division, 5 come from Miami. Brady has owned the Colts as well, 7-3 record against them.

Tl;dr. Quit your Bellichick bawing, teams still have to execute to win.

[PrettyTony]

This thread has turned into a bawfest from the Jets fan and the Colts fan.

Stealing a team's signals only goes so far, you still have to be able to execute your own plays, and if you think Bellichick is the first guy to try to acquire a team's signals, then you are sorely mistaken. Teams do it all them time, not necessarily taping a team(though I would not put it past them), and in this league you do what you have to do to get wins. If Bellichick was coaching the Jets, I don't think you'd be bawing as much as you are, if at all, and the same thing goes to the Colts fan. You finally got your ring, and Im'ma let you finish, but Tom Brady is still the best quarterback of our time. He won with fewer weapons than Manning had(Harrison and Wayne, compared to whoever the hell the Patriots had during their run).

As a Jets fan, you can't talk down to a team you've only beaten once in your own Stadium since the year 2000, and only have three wins against since Brady took over. In the East, the only team that has any right to call out the Patriots is Miami, they always play New England close, and of the 9 losses Brady has in that division, 5 come from Miami. Brady has owned the Colts as well, 7-3 record against them.

Tl;dr. Quit your Bellichick bawing, teams still have to execute to win.

Calm down buddy I would be even more ashamed of the Jets than I already am if Belicheat was my Coach. Also what do you expect honestly? Also stealing signals is actually a major offense and can cripple a team..basically knowing what plays the apposing team is going to call uh c'mon now you being ridiculous.

[CarbonDioxide]

Im not going with facts but I think patroits are going to win. Because as everyone said that the secondary is failing and TB is a bomber with RM so yeah. Also Pats have a small running game so its pretty obivious that they're passing. But Indy might have a hard time with the Pats D.

[Calisniper13]

Calm down buddy I would be even more ashamed of the Jets than I already am if Belicheat was my Coach. Also what do you expect honestly? Also stealing signals is actually a major offense and can cripple a team..basically knowing what plays the apposing team is going to call uh c'mon now you being ridiculous.

No, it still comes down to you executing your own plays. Yes it's an advantage, but it's negligible without execution.

Oh bro, I know they're gonna run a fade route 12-yards deep. OH SHI- this guy still got by me, and got a TD.

Oh bro, I know they're gonna blitz from the left, so I'll slide protection that way. OH SHI- my guy missed his block so I got capwnd by the OLB.

Teams have been stealing signals for years, why the hell do you think coaches cover their mouths with the play sheet when calling something.

[PrettyTony]

No, it still comes down to you executing your own plays. Yes it's an advantage, but it's negligible without execution.

Oh bro, I know they're gonna run a fade route 12-yards deep. OH SHI- this guy still got by me, and got a TD.

Oh bro, I know they're gonna blitz from the left, so I'll slide protection that way. OH SHI- my guy missed his block so I got capwnd by the OLB.

Teams have been stealing signals for years, why the hell do you think coaches cover their mouths with the play sheet when calling something.

Yeah that is during a game your argument is horrible. You obviously have an amazing advantage if you know blitz from left than if you had no idea at all.
Find it funny Belicheat is praised so highly if it was any other team(besides a few) they would be slapped across the face and prob punished more severely.

[liquidnitrogen]

This thread has turned into a bawfest from the Jets fan and the Colts fan.

Stealing a team's signals only goes so far, you still have to be able to execute your own plays, and if you think Bellichick is the first guy to try to acquire a team's signals, then you are sorely mistaken. Teams do it all them time, not necessarily taping a team(though I would not put it past them), and in this league you do what you have to do to get wins. If Bellichick was coaching the Jets, I don't think you'd be bawing as much as you are, if at all, and the same thing goes to the Colts fan. You finally got your ring, and Im'ma let you finish, but Tom Brady is still the best quarterback of our time. He won with fewer weapons than Manning had(Harrison and Wayne, compared to whoever the hell the Patriots had during their run).

As a Jets fan, you can't talk down to a team you've only beaten once in your own Stadium since the year 2000, and only have three wins against since Brady took over. In the East, the only team that has any right to call out the Patriots is Miami, they always play New England close, and of the 9 losses Brady has in that division, 5 come from Miami. Brady has owned the Colts as well, 7-3 record against them.

Tl;dr. Quit your Bellichick bawing, teams still have to execute to win.

Do you think having a Top 10 defense every year the Patriots won the Superbowl might have helped Brady get those rings? I dont know why people insist on believing that rings make the better player, Super Bowl wins are a team effort, period. I would like to see you convince any football fan that Trent Dilfer was a better QB then Marino because he has more rings, it aint gonna happen.

No QB has ever been a student of the game like Manning has. Unfortuantly he has never had a great defense, he won his superbowl with a defense that was ranked 23rd in the league, Brady won his with a 1st ranked, 2nd ranked, and 6th ranked. And Brady wasnt exactly throwing to no-name recievers. When he won his Super Bowls he had Mr. Patriot himself, Troy Brown, who is actually the Patriots all-time leading reciever. And he had a Super Bowl MVP to throw too.

I just think we should let Super Bowl wins judge teams, and personal production judge a player.

[liquidnitrogen]

No, it still comes down to you executing your own plays. Yes it's an advantage, but it's negligible without execution.

Oh bro, I know they're gonna run a fade route 12-yards deep. OH SHI- this guy still got by me, and got a TD.

Oh bro, I know they're gonna blitz from the left, so I'll slide protection that way. OH SHI- my guy missed his block so I got capwnd by the OLB.

Teams have been stealing signals for years, why the hell do you think coaches cover their mouths with the play sheet when calling something.

People attempting to read lips has been around forever, but using technology to steal signals takes it to a differnt level. The bottom line is if they could have won all 3 Super Bowls without the help of cheating, then Bilichick being the "smart" coach that he is would not have risked doing so.

[TeleBelly]

This thread has turned into a bawfest from the Jets fan and the Colts fan.

Stealing a team's signals only goes so far, you still have to be able to execute your own plays, and if you think Bellichick is the first guy to try to acquire a team's signals, then you are sorely mistaken. Teams do it all them time, not necessarily taping a team(though I would not put it past them), and in this league you do what you have to do to get wins. If Bellichick was coaching the Jets, I don't think you'd be bawing as much as you are, if at all, and the same thing goes to the Colts fan. You finally got your ring, and Im'ma let you finish, but Tom Brady is still the best quarterback of our time. He won with fewer weapons than Manning had(Harrison and Wayne, compared to whoever the hell the Patriots had during their run).

As a Jets fan, you can't talk down to a team you've only beaten once in your own Stadium since the year 2000, and only have three wins against since Brady took over. In the East, the only team that has any right to call out the Patriots is Miami, they always play New England close, and of the 9 losses Brady has in that division, 5 come from Miami. Brady has owned the Colts as well, 7-3 record against them.

Tl;dr. Quit your Bellichick bawing, teams still have to execute to win.

Thank you, but you are wrong about one thing. Half the reason Brady is so good is because his receivers are all great. They use to be, and they still are. You can't cheat when your fixing a players attitude. Look how Randy Moss use to be for the Vikings, look at him now that he's playing for the Patriots. That's called good coaching.

[Calisniper13]

Do you think having a Top 10 defense every year the Patriots won the Superbowl might have helped Brady get those rings?

Brady drove them down the field against St.Louis and Carolina, and Vinateri(now with Indy) kicked the game-winners. Yes the defense helped, but if Brady doesn't drive them down field, and Vinateri doesn't make those kicks, then they don't win.

I dont know why people insist on believing that rings make the better player, Super Bowl wins are a team effort, period. I would like to see you convince any football fan that Trent Dilfer was a better QB then Marino because he has more rings, it aint gonna happen.

Marino never had the chance to play with a defense the likes of the 2000 Baltimore Ravens. Not his fault. And I only bring up rings because we are comparing the teams not the players.

No QB has ever been a student of the game like Manning has. Unfortuantly he has never had a great defense, he won his superbowl with a defense that was ranked 23rd in the league, Brady won his with a 1st ranked, 2nd ranked, and 6th ranked. And Brady wasnt exactly throwing to no-name recievers. When he won his Super Bowls he had Mr. Patriot himself, Troy Brown, who is actually the Patriots all-time leading reciever. And he had a Super Bowl MVP to throw too.

I know of Manning's exploits, and I think he's a Top-5 historical QB, but even with a under-achieving defense, you had Marvin Harrison on the outside, along with Wayne, Clark, and an O-line who keeps your QB clean. Troy Brown is not Marvin Harrison. He's good, but Harrison is in a league all his own.

I just think we should let Super Bowl wins judge teams, and personal production judge a player.

So the Patriots are a better team than the Colts. And Manning is statistically a better Qb than Brady. Happy?



People attempting to read lips has been around forever, but using technology to steal signals takes it to a differnt level. The bottom line is if they could have won all 3 Super Bowls without the help of cheating, then Bilichick being the "smart" coach that he is would not have risked doing so.

Show me the evidence that Bellichick was taping signals before the Super Bowls. And don't bring up the destroyed tapes, because those were from a Jets game if I recall correctly. And the Jets are nowhere near sniffing a Super Bowl.

Thank you, but you are wrong about one thing. Half the reason Brady is so good is because his receivers are all great. They use to be, and they still are. You can't cheat when your fixing a players attitude. Look how Randy Moss use to be for the Vikings, look at him now that he's playing for the Patriots. That's called good coaching.

Brady never had Randy Moss during their Super Bowl runs.

[TeleBelly]

Brady never had Randy Moss during their Super Bowl runs.

Because he didn't need him.... he ALWAYS has had great recievers.

[NerdyBoi]

Colts ftw :D

[UniteD]

Patriots are on the road for this one >.>
They will win too, while Payton has silence while he is on the field, Pats offense doesnt have to deal with FOUR starting players.
It neautralizes the 'ontheroad' effect.

[Calisniper13]

Because he didn't need him.... he ALWAYS has had great recievers.

2001 Roster(WR/TE):

Troy Brown
Bert Emanuel
Charles Johnson
David Patten
Torrance Small
Rod Rutledge
Jermaine Wiggins


2002 Roster(WR/TE):

Deion Branch
Troy Brown
David Patten
David Givens
Donald Hayes
Cam Cleeland
Christian Fauria
Daniel Graham

2004 Roster(WR/TE):

Deion Branch
Troy Brown
David Patten
David Givens
Bethel Johnson
P.K. Sam
Christian Fauria
Daniel Graham
Benjamin Watson

That's that I call an elite receiving corps. Other than Branch, Brown, and Watson, all of those are a bunch of no-names.

[TheCriminaL]

Thanks guys.. the colts are going to win because they are much better this year in general.

[TrueRemix]

It's gonna be a good game.

The Colts secondary is beat up right now, with the loss of three starters, and I'm sure Brady will take full advantage of it. But with the previous match ups the Colts played, these back up Db's can prove they can handle their coverage's (Matt Schaub, Chad Pennington.)

Let's keep the win streak alive!

[TeleBelly]

2001 Roster(WR/TE):

Troy Brown
Bert Emanuel
Charles Johnson
David Patten
Torrance Small
Rod Rutledge
Jermaine Wiggins


2002 Roster(WR/TE):

Deion Branch
Troy Brown
David Patten
David Givens
Donald Hayes
Cam Cleeland
Christian Fauria
Daniel Graham

2004 Roster(WR/TE):

Deion Branch
Troy Brown
David Patten
David Givens
Bethel Johnson
P.K. Sam
Christian Fauria
Daniel Graham
Benjamin Watson

That's that I call an elite receiving corps. Other than Branch, Brown, and Watson, all of those are a bunch of no-names.


Branch, Brown, and Watson, Patten, and Givens were all good receivers. You don't need anymore than that lmao. By the way, the year is 2009. We aren't talking about the superbowl wins are we? We are talking about the team in general. How about 05 through 09?

Edit: Well game time is in about an hour so we will find out soon =)

[SSgtRedEye]

Colts are mostly likely going to win but its going to be a close game.

[CoolGuy2567]

Patriots are going to win XD tom brady unbeleivable qb. But colts have a good change with manning. Very good game make sure to watch it =]

[TeleBelly]

You do realize the Colts defense has only allowed 13.5 points per game this season? Probably not right...I can tell

Tom Brady was facing 2 rookie cornerbacks last week and the Patriots only put up 27 points, Brady even threw an interception. What makes you think they will put up more points on the best scoring defense in the leauge?

Halftime Score:
Patriots - 24
Colts - 14

I have nothing more to say.

[theunimportant]

pour colts

[DEADPK]

D:
Tom Brady had a lucky night

[TeleBelly]

D:
Tom Brady had a lucky night

Don't you just love how unfair it is when Brady hucks it down the field and Moss just somehow catches it everytime? hahah.

[DEADPK]

Don't you just love how unfair it is when Brady hucks it down the field and Moss just somehow catches it everytime? hahah.

lol yea that was funny
the games not over yet but i think they won

[DEADPK]

Omgo gomgo mogmomggmogmg holly crappppp
best game everrrr
35-34 colts win yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

[TeleBelly]

Omgo gomgo mogmomggmogmg holly crappppp
best game everrrr
35-34 colts win yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

Don't ya just love how manning pouts and cries the entire game until he gets his way?

Edit: Bellichick is the reason the Pats lost. Went for the first down on a 4 and 2 with only 2 minutes to go instead of just punting it...

Also I havn't figure out why the patriots coaching staff havn't gotten rid of Maroney, the guy is terrible he never gets anywhere.

[liquidnitrogen]

Don't you just love how unfair it is when Brady hucks it down the field and Moss just somehow catches it everytime? hahah.

Dont you just love and Brady cant even get 2 yards when the game is on the line but Manning is able to win it with a touchdown pass in the closing seconds of the game.

Manning performing an epic comeback over the Patriots yet again....Priceless

[DEADPK]

wait are you guys goin for the colts or patriots?

[PrettyTony]

Halftime Score:
Patriots - 24
Colts - 14

I have nothing more to say.

Yeah lol judging the game at halftime by a 10 point score good call there pal...


gj the better team won go COLTS

[ConArtist]

Happy the Colts won. :D

The real game= BENGALS 18-12 OVER TEH STEELERSSSSSSSSSSSSSsss :D:D:D::D:D:D

[AmFuFu345]

Halftime Score:
Patriots - 24
Colts - 14

I have nothing more to say.

lawl this is why theres 2 halfs can u say comeback ftw can u say bonehead move by coach bellichek it was a gg tho

[Omni]

Don't ya just love how manning pouts and cries the entire game until he gets his way?

Edit: Bellichick is the reason the Pats lost. Went for the first down on a 4 and 2 with only 2 minutes to go instead of just punting it...

Also I havn't figure out why the patriots coaching staff havn't gotten rid of Maroney, the guy is terrible he never gets anywhere.
True post is true

[brainfart]

pats r freaking amazing and even though we lost im still wearin my jersy cause the first 3 quarters were really great :D

to all u pats haters :P

[liquidnitrogen]

Too bad games are won in the 4th quarter. The bottom line is when it was crunch time, the Colts executed big time plays and the Patriots did not. You dont win games in the first half. The Colts were able to out perform the Patriots in the quarter that matters most, and thats what the great teams do.

[TeleBelly]

Too bad games are won in the 4th quarter. The bottom line is when it was crunch time, the Colts executed big time plays and the Patriots did not. You dont win games in the first half. The Colts were able to out perform the Patriots in the quarter that matters most, and thats what the great teams do.

oh be quiet lmao. You think your so tough with your narb speech. Ask any person that has played football and he will tell you that the Pats should have won that game and deserved the win. They lost because of a bad call by the coach and lawrence maroney. Plain and simple.

[Laginator]

oh be quiet lmao. You think your so tough with your narb speech. Ask any person that has played football and he will tell you that the Pats should have won that game and deserved the win. They lost because of a bad call by the coach and lawrence maroney. Plain and simple.

Tele speaks the truth. Patriots should have won that, but that call on the 4th down was a bunch of bs.

[PrettyTony]

Tele speaks the truth. Patriots should have won that, but that call on the 4th down was a bunch of bs.

Even punting the ball away there is still a 50% chance I believe the Colts would of won. Not getting that first down on 4th pretty much made it 80% to win for Colts.

Patriots couldn't finish the game and that seems to be the motto of 2009-10 season...FINISH THE GAME.

Who cares what happened during the first half of the game what happened during the 2nd half is what mattered. I hate Bill Bellicheat and the Patriots, but i stand behind what he did. I would have faith in Tom Brady and the rest of the offense getting that 1st down, and im sure most Patriots fans did too.

It was a bold call, but if it worked everyone would be singing and dancing in New England, and Billy boy would be a bigger god than he already is.

[TeleBelly]

For all you Bill Belichick haters out there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFfobQftP5k

[TheUnSpoken]

I watched this game. And when Bill sent out the O when it was 4th and 2 with 2:08 left.
I about pee'd myself from the laughing. Stupid play, stupid call.
Gratz on Brady not saying "Horrible call".
But instead he did the right thing and said that he agreed with the coach.
LOL!

[Calisniper13]

First of all, it was the typical Pats/Colts game. Exciting in the 4th. I totally back what Belichick did on that 4th and 2, because of what had happened in the 4th quarter. Manning TWICE drove the Colts about 80 yards to a TD in about two minutes. The Patriots were abusing the Colts defense throughout the game, racking up 450+ yards of offense. Their best player(s) are on the offensive side of the ball, so when you want to win the game, you give it to your best. I'm not going to bring up all the numbers, like the Pats convert 75% of all 4th and short attempts, or other garbage numbers that have no merit in this game. It was a high-risk, high-reward gambit, and the Pats lost. And don't forget the Pats had no timeouts, and it was before the two minute warning, so they couldn't challenge the spot, which could have gone either way.


Now when they failed to convert, what they should have done is let the Colts score fast. Just send the defense out their and try and save as much clock as possible. This would give the ball back to their offense, which again was abusing the Colts secondary, with let's say 1:30. They would only need to get into FG-range to win the game, and I do think they have the ability to drive quickly. We can all sit here and play arm-chair QB, knowing what to do after the game is over, but the Colts pulled out the win, and that's all that matters

On a good note, Manning's last TD got me a fantasy football win. :D

[TrueRemix]

Too bad games are won in the 4th quarter. The bottom line is when it was crunch time, the Colts executed big time plays and the Patriots did not. You dont win games in the first half. The Colts were able to out perform the Patriots in the quarter that matters most, and thats what the great teams do.

Well said my friend. That's why they are 9-0.

oh be quiet lmao. You think your so tough with your narb speech. Ask any person that has played football and he will tell you that the Pats should have won that game and deserved the win. They lost because of a bad call by the coach and lawrence maroney. Plain and simple.

I guess they didn't deserve that win, since they lost. Clutch tackle by Melvin Bullitt, not Maroney's fault. They couldn't go convert the 4th & 2 situation, yet Peyton Manning threw a game winning touchdown ftw, from 28 yards out. Colts, great team, who takes full advantage of opportunities.

[Weewoo]

First of all, it was the typical Pats/Colts game. Exciting in the 4th. I totally back what Belichick did on that 4th and 2, because of what had happened in the 4th quarter. Manning TWICE drove the Colts about 80 yards to a TD in about two minutes. The Patriots were abusing the Colts defense throughout the game, racking up 450+ yards of offense. Their best player(s) are on the offensive side of the ball, so when you want to win the game, you give it to your best. I'm not going to bring up all the numbers, like the Pats convert 75% of all 4th and short attempts, or other garbage numbers that have no merit in this game. It was a high-risk, high-reward gambit, and the Pats lost. And don't forget the Pats had no timeouts, and it was before the two minute warning, so they couldn't challenge the spot, which could have gone either way.


Now when they failed to convert, what they should have done is let the Colts score fast. Just send the defense out their and try and save as much clock as possible. This would give the ball back to their offense, which again was abusing the Colts secondary, with let's say 1:30. They would only need to get into FG-range to win the game, and I do think they have the ability to drive quickly. We can all sit here and play arm-chair QB, knowing what to do after the game is over, but the Colts pulled out the win, and that's all that matters

On a good note, Manning's last TD got me a fantasy football win. :D

Always listen to this guy. He knows what he talks about.

It was a great game. Everyone that really cared, was talking about it at school today.

[PrettyTony]

Wow I watched the video of 4th and 2...and uh he got the first down look at this video bad call by the ref.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsU-jkmYXyM


12 seconds into the video you clearly see he got the first down.
The reason they didn't give him the 1st was because he bobbled the ball which I fail to see.
Wow pats got screwed.

[DEADPK]

Tele speaks the truth. Patriots should have won that, but that call on the 4th down was a bunch of bs.

That's the coach's fault for calling a 4th down
Their coach is so retarded

[PrettyTony]

That's the coach's fault for calling a 4th down
Their coach is so retarded


heh..your in for a flame fest for saying something so stupid.

[DEADPK]

heh..your in for a flame fest for saying something so stupid.

Im sorry but im use2 it 0.0
*cough* fail coach *cough^

[Omni]

Wow I watched the video of 4th and 2...and uh he got the first down look at this video bad call by the ref.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsU-jkmYXyM


12 seconds into the video you clearly see he got the first down.
The reason they didn't give him the 1st was because he bobbled the ball which I fail to see.
Wow pats got screwed.
That coming from Tony....says something right there :D
And tbh he did bobble it but he bobbled it at the 30 going latterally with the 30 yard line, gained possesion of the catch at the 30 and was tackled backwards to the 29 but since the side ref was blocked from a good view due to Faulk's back being turned and the main(middle) ref was too far away to get a good look...they went off of their judgement. and since Billichek didnt challenge they played on

[PrettyTony]

That coming from Tony....says something right there :D
And tbh he did bobble it but he bobbled it at the 30 going latterally with the 30 yard line, gained possesion of the catch at the 30 and was tackled backwards to the 29 but since the side ref was blocked from a good view due to Faulk's back being turned and the main(middle) ref was too far away to get a good look...they went off of their judgement. and since Billichek didnt challenge they played on

yeah I hate the Pats and all but not gonna lie I would trust my offense in this situation, but Bill shoulda challenged that if he had any left.

[liquidnitrogen]

It was bobbled once, watch closely you and can easily see it. Therefore he cannot be given forward progress making it an extremely close call for the official which is exactly why coaches get 2 challenges per half. PissPoor game management by belichick for not conserving a timeout, theres nothing else that could have been done. Maybe the Colts could have challenged the play for the Patriots.

[PrettyTony]

It was bobbled once, watch closely you and can easily see it. Therefore he cannot be given forward progress making it an extremely close call for the official which is exactly why coaches get 2 challenges per half. PissPoor game management by belichick for not conserving a timeout, theres nothing else that could have been done. Maybe the Colts could have challenged the play for the Patriots.

Yeah I hear that well I'm just happy the Colts stayed perfect so far this season.


edit: I band-wagon the Colts every year when my Jets stink it up ;)

[TeleBelly]

Yeah I hear that well I'm just happy the Colts stayed perfect so far this season.


edit: I band-wagon the Colts every year when my Jets stink it up ;)

lmao... why is most of PT's community colts fans? You like manning ? You like how he cries everytime his team losses? You like how hes not a team player at all and thinks hes the best? Ok then... Just tell me the last time you heard the patriots trash talk another team. You hear the jets saying "GUARANTEED WIN VS PATRIOTS" lmfao... that just shows how ignorant the jets are.

[PrettyTony]

lmao... why is most of PT's community colts fans? You like manning ? You like how he cries everytime his team losses? You like how hes not a team player at all and thinks hes the best? Ok then... Just tell me the last time you heard the patriots trash talk another team. You hear the jets saying "GUARANTEED WIN VS PATRIOTS" lmfao... that just shows how ignorant the jets are.

Argument goes both ways when the Jets beat the Pats Billicheat didnt even look Rex Ryan in the eyes and gave such a girly handshake and ran away..That shows no respect either..who cares what the players do on the sidelines or after the game. Unless what they do is illegal.

[TeleBelly]

Argument goes both ways when the Jets beat the Pats Billicheat didnt even look Rex Ryan in the eyes and gave such a girly handshake and ran away..That shows no respect either..who cares what the players do on the sidelines or after the game. Unless what they do is illegal.

Because if you've ever been part of a team you'd realize sportsmanship off the field is MORE important than sportsmanship on the field. Sometimes games can get rough in which case you might lay-out your best friend and maybe taunt him a little in a game. But outside of the game and off the field, you are still cool.

[liquidnitrogen]

lmao... why is most of PT's community colts fans? You like manning ? You like how he cries everytime his team losses? You like how hes not a team player at all and thinks hes the best? Ok then... Just tell me the last time you heard the patriots trash talk another team. You hear the jets saying "GUARANTEED WIN VS PATRIOTS" lmfao... that just shows how ignorant the jets are.

Somebodys still a little sore after the Colts/Pats game. And every team trash talks, to think that the patriots dont is absurd. And what makes you say Manning thinks hes the best? Even though he is, he doesnt admit it or act like he is. Brady on the other hand is way to high on himself. He thinks him and his offense is the best thing since sliced bread ever since thier 18 and ch0ke season.

[Calisniper13]

Wow I watched the video of 4th and 2...and uh he got the first down look at this video bad call by the ref.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsU-jkmYXyM


12 seconds into the video you clearly see he got the first down.
The reason they didn't give him the 1st was because he bobbled the ball which I fail to see.
Wow pats got screwed.

An arguable point, but the bobble was clear. I tend not to bring refs into the discussion if I can avoid it.

That coming from Tony....says something right there :D
And tbh he did bobble it but he bobbled it at the 30 going latterally with the 30 yard line, gained possesion of the catch at the 30 and was tackled backwards to the 29 but since the side ref was blocked from a good view due to Faulk's back being turned and the main(middle) ref was too far away to get a good look...they went off of their judgement. and since Billichek didnt challenge they played on


yeah I hate the Pats and all but not gonna lie I would trust my offense in this situation, but Bill shoulda challenged that if he had any left.

The Pats had no timeouts left, so they couldn't challenge.

lmao... why is most of PT's community colts fans? You like manning ? You like how he cries everytime his team losses? You like how hes not a team player at all and thinks hes the best? Ok then... Just tell me the last time you heard the patriots trash talk another team. You hear the jets saying "GUARANTEED WIN VS PATRIOTS" lmfao... that just shows how ignorant the jets are.

Oh the Patriots do their trash talking. Remember that before the 2007 Super Bowl, Plaxico Burress said that the score would be 20-17(around there), and Brady retorted with "Oh we're only going to score 17? Lol, we'll see"(he didn't say lol, but he laughed).
Because if you've ever been part of a team you'd realize sportsmanship off the field is MORE important than sportsmanship on the field.

The Pats lack on-field sportsmanship, when they decide to run up the score on an inferior opponent(See: 2007 Season, 2009 Titans Game).

[TeleBelly]

An arguable point, but the bobble was clear. I tend not to bring refs into the discussion if I can avoid it.






The Pats had no timeouts left, so they couldn't challenge.



Oh the Patriots do their trash talking. Remember that before the 2007 Super Bowl, Plaxico Burress said that the score would be 20-17(around there), and Brady retorted with "Oh we're only going to score 17? Lol, we'll see"(he didn't say lol, but he laughed).


The Pats lack on-field sportsmanship, when they decide to run up the score on an inferior opponent(See: 2007 Season, 2009 Titans Game).

I thought scoring was the point of the game is it not? If you don't come prepared you get embarrassed, its not like he gets fined for being a good coach and having a team that can score 59 points in a single game. It's called being good not anything unsportsman-like about it. I'm sure if teams could do it to us then they would.

And by the way, what Brady said isn't trash talking. Plaxico said he was going to win so Brady simply said no your not. In what way is that trash talking? That's called defending your team to give you and your teammates some confidence before going into the biggest game of the year. They never GUARANTEED a win by any means.

[liquidnitrogen]

I thought scoring was the point of the game is it not? If you don't come prepared you get embarrassed, its not like he gets fined for being a good coach and having a team that can score 59 points in a single game. It's called being good not anything unsportsman-like about it. I'm sure if teams could do it to us then they would.

And by the way, what Brady said isn't trash talking. Plaxico said he was going to win so Brady simply said no your not. In what way is that trash talking? That's called defending your team to give you and your teammates some confidence before going into the biggest game of the year. They never GUARANTEED a win by any means.

No, winning is the point of the game. Trying to embarrass your opponent after the game has been put away is not the point of game, thats is how unnecessary injuries happen.

And Brady was not simply saying the Giants wouldnt win. He luaghed at the fact that Plaxico predicted the Patriots to only score 17 points because Brady THOUGHT he had the best offense to ever step foot on the field. He said he wished Plaxico would have said 45-42 and given the Patriots a little more credit. But in reality, the Patriots offense wasnt even good enough to score 17 points

[Calisniper13]

I thought scoring was the point of the game is it not? If you don't come prepared you get embarrassed, its not like he gets fined for being a good coach and having a team that can score 59 points in a single game. It's called being good not anything unsportsman-like about it. I'm sure if teams could do it to us then they would.

And by the way, what Brady said isn't trash talking. Plaxico said he was going to win so Brady simply said no your not. In what way is that trash talking? That's called defending your team to give you and your teammates some confidence before going into the biggest game of the year. They never GUARANTEED a win by any means.

This is why I tend to not argue with fans of a team. Irrationality.

[Omni]

The Pats had no timeouts left, so they couldn't challenge.

The play happened beyond the 2 minute warning in the 4th quarter....all questionable plays can be challenged for free

[liquidnitrogen]

The play happened beyond the 2 minute warning in the 4th quarter....all questionable plays can be challenged for free

The play started before the 2 minute warning, there was 1:57 after the play I believe. But since it started before the 2 min warning the booth could not review it, the patriots would have had to challenge but they had no timeouts.

[Omni]

The play started before the 2 minute warning, there was 1:57 after the play I believe. But since it started before the 2 min warning the booth could not review it, the patriots would have had to challenge but they had no timeouts.
Exactly, the play ENDED under the two minute warning. It still falls under the rule.
You could even hear the broadcast booth saying that he could challenge it because it was within the 2 minute warning

[liquidnitrogen]

Exactly, the play ENDED under the two minute warning. It still falls under the rule.
You could even hear the broadcast booth saying that he could challenge it because it was within the 2 minute warning

The Broadcasters said he could challenge it because it started BEFORE the 2 minute warning, but they were unaware that they had no timeouts and later corrected themselves. But nobody can challege a play that started after the 2 minute warning, it would be up to the booth to review the play.

[AmFuFu345]

The Broadcasters said he could ch***enge it because it started BEFORE the 2 minute warning, but they were unaware that they had no timeouts and later corrected themselves. But nobody can ch***ege a play that started after the 2 minute warning, it would be up to the booth to review the play.

he is correct after 2 minute warning only booth can send down a replay ch***enge.

[TeleBelly]

No, winning is the point of the game. Trying to embarrass your opponent after the game has been put away is not the point of game, thats is how unnecessary injuries happen.

And Brady was not simply saying the Giants wouldnt win. He luaghed at the fact that Plaxico predicted the Patriots to only score 17 points because Brady THOUGHT he had the best offense to ever step foot on the field. He said he wished Plaxico would have said 45-42 and given the Patriots a little more credit. But in reality, the Patriots offense wasnt even good enough to score 17 points

Brady DID have the best offense of the year. Look at his numbers... In reality the patriost would have beat the giants 9 /10 times. They just got that unlucky 1/10 time that they would lose.

[Bagheera]

Colts won.

/endconvo