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Pope
07-27-2009, 11:38 AM
There are many ways in which individuals view themselves and the world around them. Some believe everything that happens in life is predetermined, while others believe that the events in life are nothing more than spontaneous mistakes. There are those who believe in God and the creation of man, and yet those who believe human beings are the product of ancestors millenia ago who crawled out of primordial ooze in the deepest crevices of underwater volcanoes. There are skepticist and solipists, idealist and pragmatists, yet everyone believes their view on the world to be "true".


How do you see it?
Is it black and white?
Is it the random attachment and detatchment of millions of atoms in spontaneous and indiliberate ways?
Is your brain (or something like it) floating in a vat of water somewhere projecting for you the world?


I, personally, am a Solipist.
However, many other Solipists would disagree that I could be one, being of such a young age, and being that solipist believe themsleves to be unable to percieve the true world do to their human restrictions.
My views on the world tend to be best in line with the views and rationals of solipism(a branch of Skepticism or Rationalism, which is highly debated), so it is what I consider to be my philosophy.

Needless to say, I have been in many heated agruments with religous fanatics (ie my grandparents) as well as "geniuses" ("genius" being a word that is tossed about these days and never really considered before usage) who believe in only what they can sense and can not comprehend that there is something beyond human restrictions that is in existence.

Being a solipist, I am not liable to believe in any others existence, for through the non human restrictions perhaps I could highly percieve my surroundings and justify their meanings.

I am curious, however, if there are other solipists still in existance, for the controversy that would arise from this occurance would be both staggering and implicable.

Kaspersky
07-27-2009, 01:08 PM
You should try SOLIPSISM. Being a SOLIPSIST has some real benefits. Like being able to spell SOLIPSISM and SOLIPSIST correctly.

Pope
07-27-2009, 05:41 PM
Wow, congradulations.

You found the typo in my post.

You must feel exceedingly accomplished.

You can now die knowing you led a meaningful and succesful life.

By the way, you should change your philisophical views to that of Douchebagism.

All you have to do is legally change your name to Scott (or Chad) and then proceed with your pathetic life, whilest making a grand @ss of yourself.

TheEndIsHere
07-27-2009, 07:32 PM
I ask you, what do you believe your relation to the universe to be? I reject solipsism and epistemological nihilism, because even though they are valid philosophies, they offer no benefit in the real world. Radical skepticism, to me, is no better than "omni-gullibility". Solipsism can justify a person jumping off a skyscraper because they don't believe the ground is "real" per se. Epistemological nihilism asserts there is no point in science (which would mean no medicine, technology, etc), or even philosophy, because you can never "know". Epistemological nihilism would retard, if not halt, or even reverse the progress of mankind.

With that said, I am a PEARList (Physical Evidence and Reasoned Logic), a nihilist (political, moral, and existential), a realist (though slightly more on the pessimistic side), and an agnostic atheist among others. From Cogito Ergo Sum, I assume the universe exists because it is consistent, it can act independent of me, and assuming so actually provides benefit. I do believe that people can choose their own actions, but my recent thoughts have challenged that belief. I believe a God can exist, but not the gods of religion. If agod exists, it would be closer to the pantheist God, or the Deist god, or Nature.

Pope
07-27-2009, 07:44 PM
I ask you, what do you believe your relation to the universe to be? I reject solipsism and epistemological nihilism, because even though they are valid philosophies, they offer no benefit in the real world. Radical skepticism, to me, is no better than "omni-gullibility". Solipsism can justify a person jumping off a skyscraper because they don't believe the ground is "real" per se. Epistemological nihilism asserts there is no point in science (which would mean no medicine, technology, etc), or even philosophy, because you can never "know". Epistemological nihilism would retard, if not halt, or even reverse the progress of mankind.

With that said, I am a PEARList (Physical Evidence and Reasoned Logic), a nihilist (political, moral, and existential), a realist (though slightly more on the pessimistic side), and an agnostic atheist among others. From Cogito Ergo Sum, I assume the universe exists because it is consistent, it can act independent of me, and assuming so actually provides benefit. I do believe that people can choose their own actions, but my recent thoughts have challenged that belief. I believe a God can exist, but not the gods of religion. If agod exists, it would be closer to the pantheist God, or the Deist god, or Nature.

You make valid and educated points, however you undermean the true rationale behind Solipsism. First off, philosophy is not to make the best of your world, but rather to decifer the meaning and or cause of your world. A Solipsist knows the consequences of an action (ie jumping off a building) but can not rationalyze why the consequences exist due to their human restrictions (ie senses). My human restrictions reassure me that my surroundings exist, yet there is no way for me to test the existence of my world beyond those boundries.

Physical Evidence and Reasoned Logic may be enough for most people to base their views on, which makes great sense in that a human can not be expected to know what they can not know.

However, I strive to understand what I know I can never grasp through sensual interactions.

nightcold
07-27-2009, 08:16 PM
Epistemological nihilism asserts there is no point in science (which would mean no medicine, technology, etc), or even philosophy, because you can never "know". Epistemological nihilism would retard, if not halt, or even reverse the progress of mankind.



actually what is considered "progress" is something that is approved by our indivudial values.......so there for it is subjective and dont something "divine"(as ur portraying it)

here is a back drop from ur so called "progress"....
actually medicine is haveing a long term effect on humanity......we are makeing virus/bacteria's evolution hapen alot faser (if we compare virus/bacteria from 100 years ago 2 the ones today, todays is alot more complex/efficient) ....while humanity is no longer a part of the evlution cycle because of the medicine....it's only a matter of time till the germs evolve 2 the point we cant contain them and wipe us out(i hope that made since,i should have put mor etime explaning)

and 1 more thing......we rlly can't prove anything what we experiance

as u can guess im a primitivist/determinist with a Phenomenology out look

btw,ur missing a determinist option on ut poll(I think)

Xenu
07-27-2009, 08:23 PM
Does Scientology count as a philosophy? If it does I am that.

adrw
07-27-2009, 10:25 PM
this stuff boggles my mind.

O_O

TopHatMan
07-27-2009, 10:29 PM
Two theories.
1: Equilibrium, for every good there is a bad, vice versa
2: If there is a chance for something to happen, it will no matter what.

Pope
07-27-2009, 11:11 PM
2: If there is a chance for something to happen, it will no matter what.


I agree, since there is the existence of infintity and improbability, anything is possible and or has already happened.


Think of it like this:

-Infinity is not so much a number as it is an ultimatum.

-The Universe is Infinitely large and is infinitely growing(which is a contradiction unto itself, as any fraction or multiple of infinity is still infinity. This also makes it impossible to reach infinity in any conventional way, even through the process of numerical manipulation.

-The probability of the correct sequence of accidents to occur for the earth to come into existence and become what it currently is is incredibly small; yet not infinetely small. If something is infinitely small then it would never occur, yet our infintesintly large universe exists, therefore there can not be an infinitely small probability by reason of contradiction.

-Since the probability of earth being formed, while a small number, goes into infinity an undetermined yet infinite ammount of times, then there is an infinite number of planets in the universe with intelligent life on them.

-Since the probability of your personal existence is very small, yet not infinetely small (as you are currently living, albiet not by my standards of philosophy) then there is an infinete number of beings that are exactly like you, living on planets exactly like earth, with your exact name, exact ancestral history, and doing the exact same thing as you are currently doing.

-Whatever you do tommorow has already been done by a duplicate of you in some other part of the galaxy and will be done by yet another duplicate of you 1,000 years from today in another part of the galaxy.

Il
07-27-2009, 11:40 PM
actually what is considered "progress" is something that is approved by our indivudial values.......so there for it is subjective and dont something "divine"(as ur portraying it)

here is a back drop from ur so called "progress"....
actually medicine is haveing a long term effect on humanity......we are makeing virus/bacteria's evolution hapen alot faser (if we compare virus/bacteria from 100 years ago 2 the ones today, todays is alot more complex/efficient) ....while humanity is no longer a part of the evlution cycle because of the medicine....it's only a matter of time till the germs evolve 2 the point we cant contain them and wipe us out(i hope that made since,i should have put mor etime explaning)

and 1 more thing......we rlly can't prove anything what we experiance

as u can guess im a primitivist/determinist with a Phenomenology out look

btw,ur missing a determinist option on ut poll(I think)

If you look at life-expectancy since it was charted (1920s) the average human lives 25 years longer. I would call that progress. of course there is the threat of a super-virus, but I doubt it will be worse then the black plague