Game Balancing

[Zaayl]

KeyWords - Game Balancing
Description - Im not searching the forum as im covering a lot of things, and don't have the time to scan through hundreds of threads. While its close, the game isn't very balanced, and needs changes. A large team of heavies can easily dominate a map, once they establish this domination its near impossible for other team(s) to stop this, to counter this i suggest lowering a heavies ammo count, making them more reliant on easier to kill supports, small damage and fire rate reductions may also help. Another problem is that some maps (specifically the CTF 10 player map) have a small point that is difficult to attack, this makes it easy for another class to spawn kill you and your team for a long period of time, until a lucky recon or grenade kills them, removing small high points would fix this. Next is the lancer, from what Ive seen its a overall useless class, despite its supposed "armor piercing" Gauss rifle. It has accuracy, but low damage (a shotgun can kill at range batter than it) a damage boost would fix this. Next, recons can have a difficult time hitting a opponent, too close and they wont hit at all, sometimes they plain miss, the hitbox isn't adjusted correctly for recons be as effective as they can and should be.
Summary - Heavies need to be toned down, lancers need to be stronger and more useful, small high points are too hard to take back, and recons need a hitbox update
Usefulness - This will make the game more fair and balanced so that everyone may enjoy and have fun playing it, and reduce the amount of constant whining and groaning from other payers calling certain classes unfair and "noobish" And create a larger need/want for players to experience all the classes, and use teamwork, rather than simply spamming the same classes
Credits - Myself

[AlexTC]

I agree with what ur saying, but me and lilac fluff in a clan war, 5vs5 against kfc, 3 of our team left. so it was 2vs5 they where

2 heavies
1 lancer
1 medic
1 assult

and in the end me and lilac fluff won the match 2vs5. soz but i coudnt screenie cause the other team 4/5 left at the end.

But we PWNED THEM!!! :cool:

ps. idont think making it easir for noob recons to kill will balance the game (they will still miss) that might have to effects bigger gap or NO NOOBS?!?!?!?!?! :eek:

(so ya weaken the heavies but dont change recons)

[Villyer]

Stay out of the Pg section with your stuff... (http://www.pawngame.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=59)

[Charles]

[Wrong section]

I Disagree with pretty much all of this sorry.

My Reasons:

Lancer's single primary attack fire is one of the most powerful in the game. (Second to shotgun) It can't demolish heavies within 1-3 seconds.
The shotgun can kill a heavy with 2 direct hits.
Just to let you know. Every class.. Has a weaker or stronger class so it can't dominate.


BTW: For this suggestion. Are you wanting this to be mandatory? So, we can't pick our classes that we want to use?

[cocookoo]

Lets see i think that the lancer should be a bit more powered up so that i can do 2 hit KOs on heavy and gaurd and also recons can have a bit more accuracy and stuff.... sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ya :)

[Zaayl]

[Wrong section]

I Disagree with pretty much all of this sorry.

My Reasons:

Lancer's single primary attack fire is one of the most powerful in the game. (Second to shotgun) It can't demolish heavies within 1-3 seconds.
The shotgun can kill a heavy with 2 direct hits.
Just to let you know. Every class.. Has a weaker or stronger class so it can't dominate.


BTW: For this suggestion. Are you wanting this to be mandatory? So, we can't pick our classes that we want to use?

I used the lancer in game, heavies can take ALOT more than three hits, even from lower grounds a single heavy can rush and kill a lancer easily, and there is nothing very special about the class, as a heavy can snipe from across the map better and kill faster.

and they CAN dominate, Ive watched it happen, a heavy is obviously vulnerable to a guard, but once they dominate, not even guardians can push through (you're being sprayed from all sides)

A heavy takes far more than 2 hits with a shotgun.

and as for your last comment, i said nothing about forced classes, you can pick ANY class you want.

as for comments about recon accuracy, the problem is is that hits are extremely bugged, ive lined up a perfect swing and watched the knife hit the enemy, but did 0 damage, this happens alot, even when the target and I are standing still and my cursor is directly on him and im almost standing on him.

[Quantooce]

I used the lancer in game, heavies can take ALOT more than three hits, even from lower grounds a single heavy can rush and kill a lancer easily, and there is nothing very special about the class, as a heavy can snipe from across the map better and kill faster.

and they CAN dominate, Ive watched it happen, a heavy is obviously vulnerable to a guard, but once they dominate, not even guardians can push through (you're being sprayed from all sides)

A heavy takes far more than 2 hits with a shotgun.

and as for your last comment, i said nothing about forced classes, you can pick ANY class you want.

as for comments about recon accuracy, the problem is is that hits are extremely bugged, ive lined up a perfect swing and watched the knife hit the enemy, but did 0 damage, this happens alot, even when the target and I are standing still and my cursor is directly on him and im almost standing on him.

If you hit a heavy with a gauss shot and he has full health, it only takes 2 shots.

[Charles]

Sorry.. You really aren't experienced.

Your getting owned by heavies and complaining on forums.

Lancer with its speed and damage could destroy heavies in a matter of seconds.

DEPENDING on the user.

Trust me I've taken out 4 heavies with the lancer. Just be running around them, and I'm pretty sure it has been done by a lot of people.

Then AGAIN.. your saying a team of heavies can dominate. What if there was a team of lancers? Absolutely no chance.

and AGAIN DEPENDING on the user.
A shotgun a kill a heavy within 2 shots. Two facefull pointblank shots.

[Zaayl]

Sorry.. You really aren't experienced.

Your getting owned by heavies and complaining on forums.

Lancer with its speed and damage could destroy heavies in a matter of seconds.

DEPENDING on the user.

Trust me I've taken out 4 heavies with the lancer. Just be running around them, and I'm pretty sure it has been done by a lot of people.

Then AGAIN.. your saying a team of heavies can dominate. What if there was a team of lancers? Absolutely no chance.

and AGAIN DEPENDING on the user.
A shotgun a kill a heavy within 2 shots. Two facefull pointblank shots.

that wont work when the exact moment you spawn, you die, which is what a heavy dominated map can do. Even if im not as experienced as you, i know how the game works, and I cant always count on having a team experienced enough to know how to deal with it, in fact 99% of the time its like im competing in the special olympics.

[HWV]

a lot of the time a lancer shot won't hit when you think it did. It all has to do with your lag/shot delay and the size of the moving target. This is why it appears to take many shots to kill a heavy as a lancer, when that is just an illusion.