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Dylan
06-30-2009, 04:52 AM
EDIT: ID means either Intelligent debate, or intelligent discussion, you choose, just something I will use to differ from threads.

Basically, if you don't know about the dimensions, watch these two videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o


Now:
If the 10th dimension has all infinities for all possible universes, how can there possibly be an 11th dimension?

If you COULD view the 10th dimension from the 11th dimension, you would in my theory, be looking at you looking into the 10th dimension.

If you tried to fold thw 11th dimension, what the HELL would you get?

If you tried to view the 11th dimension from a 12th dimension, could you be possibly looking at you looking at the 10th dimension?

If the 11th dimension is possible, are not an infinite amounts, seeing as 10 should eb the logical end?
BUT, seeing as there could be an infinite amount, would not the 10th dimension be completely filled with the infinities from every single one?


Discuss.
It is 3AM, be easy, to a time for me to be thinking.

AlbertMond
06-30-2009, 05:01 AM
Well, the romantic in me would say that there are too many (perhaps) dimensions to be fully understood (or even observed) by the 4D-focused human mind.

Dylan
06-30-2009, 05:06 AM
Well, the romantic in me would say that there are too many (perhaps) dimensions to be fully understood (or even observed) by the 4D-focused human mind.
In my theory, yes that is true, seeing as if the 11th dimension is possible, viewing from the 12 should be, and if viewing from the 12th should be, viewing from infinite more dimensions is possible, but you will also see yourself in the 10th dimension since it holds all possible outcomes, so you may even see the back of your head in the last outcome of dimension #453,243,343,445,536 because if you can view from an 11th, then there must be a hole to view from infinite more, so you may even be able to reach in and slap the back of your head from beyond millions of dimensions.

FlippysKnife
06-30-2009, 05:27 AM
So the 11th Dimension would be another possibility 10th Dimension? idk, noone knows >_>

This stuff fails

Dylan
06-30-2009, 05:29 AM
So the 11th Dimension would be another possibility 10th Dimension? idk, noone knows >_>

This stuff fails
Least intelligent post I thought could be said has been said before the first page ended.

Dang... greb was right...

<&greb> Dude
<&greb> This is pawn
<&greb> You can find smarter mammals in a zoo
<&greb> I dont think your debate will go far

AlbertMond
06-30-2009, 05:37 AM
Least intelligent post I thought could be said has been said before the first page ended.

In a way he's right, I think. Whether or not it's even possible to reach a state of awareness at which one could notice the hypothetical 11th dimension is questionable

Dylan
06-30-2009, 05:41 AM
In a way he's right, I think. Whether or not it's even possible to reach a state of awareness at which one could notice the hypothetical 11th dimension is questionable
He said
So the 11th Dimension would be another possibility 10th Dimension? idk, noone knows >_>

This stuff fails

Which is what I said, for one, except he added on "Except I dunno, and this fails", which is the typical response from someone who should not have posted at all.

If you can see a dimension from another dimension, afetr the 10th, you would hypothetically be seeing through infinite dimensions rather than the one you normally would be able to in 10-.

AlbertMond
06-30-2009, 05:45 AM
Interesting.
Does that mean the 10th would have a determined center, or would the 11th be more of an altered perception?

FoxSamus
06-30-2009, 05:50 AM
I say 11th dimension can't exist.
10th is possibility of every possiability, so you can't go on from there.
I dunno what you mean in the 11th though.
Because in the 10, you could basically view every possiability of your left, and the aspects of each one.
But, anyways, you can't view yourself in the 11th dimension because there is nothing new to make the 11th dimension. :O

Dylan
06-30-2009, 05:52 AM
I say 11th dimension can't exist.
10th is possibility of every possiability, so you can't go on from there.
I dunno what you mean in the 11th though.
Because in the 10, you could basically view every possiability of your left, and the aspects of each one.
But, anyways, you can't view yourself in the 11th dimension because there is nothing new to make the 11th dimension. :O
Here is the hole in that though.
If you can exist in a dimension where you can view the 10th dimension, the 11th dimension would exist INSIDE the 10th dimension, as well as wherever you may be viewing it from.

So, the logical end being the 10th dimension becomes the PLAUSIBLE end.

AlbertMond
06-30-2009, 05:56 AM
I say 11th dimension can't exist.
10th is possibility of every possiability, so you can't go on from there.
I dunno what you mean in the 11th though.
Because in the 10, you could basically view every possiability of your left, and the aspects of each one.
But, anyways, you can't view yourself in the 11th dimension because there is nothing new to make the 11th dimension. :O

But, assuming there are infinite possibilities, then "every" itself is somewhat limited. That said, it's possible for dimensions beyond the 10th itself to exist, as Dylan said within and beyond the 10th.

Dylan
06-30-2009, 06:10 AM
so if it exists outside of the 10th, it must exist inside as well, what if you were to move something out of the 10th?

Would you see yourself from the 11th moving it outside of the 10th, but ALSO see you moving it out of the 10th INSIDE the 10th?

Villyer
06-30-2009, 08:20 AM
Before I say something and look stupid, what are dimensions 4-9?

Toast
06-30-2009, 08:39 AM
Last time I tried to have a semi-intelligent discussion it magically disappeared.

AlbertMond
06-30-2009, 09:08 AM
Last time I tried to have a semi-intelligent discussion it magically disappeared.

No, no. I believe that was a pencil.

Balddude
06-30-2009, 09:35 AM
so if it exists outside of the 10th, it must exist inside as well, what if you were to move something out of the 10th?

Would you see yourself from the 11th moving it outside of the 10th, but ALSO see you moving it out of the 10th INSIDE the 10th?



Wait, wait, wait, hold up a second.


Right now, the 10th dimension contains all EVERYTHING inside it, right? In other words, the 10th dimension is infinite.


Now, let me get this straight, since the video stated that all dimensions are a mere subset of the 10th dimension, is it from this that you draw the fact that the 11th dimension, or even dimensions beyond the 11th dimension are inside the 10th dimension?


If this is the theory, then I guess that it would mean that the 11th dimension is in fact inside the 10th dimension.


However, as the video stated, there is a road block. Once you reach the 10th dimension, you can't get any higher. So if there is an 11th dimension, could it be that the 11th dimension which should be the greater "value" of the 10th dimension, could also just be a mere subset of the 10th dimension. Could the 11th dimension be just another duplicate of the 10th dimension?



If I have strayed way far from what you guys are discussing about, I am sorry, I just want to clarify this issue. ;)

maggerz
06-30-2009, 10:58 AM
I doubt the existence of an 11th dimension, if the 10th contained all infinities about everything, what the hell would the 11th contain?

(Don't blame me if i sound stupid, i'm only 13)

Kaspersky
06-30-2009, 12:31 PM
I doubt the existence of an 11th dimension, if the 10th contained all infinities about everything, what the hell would the 11th contain?

(Don't blame me if i sound stupid, i'm only 13)

If the tenth dimension contains infinites of everything, there are infinite dimensions existing within it.

Dylan
06-30-2009, 12:32 PM
Wait, wait, wait, hold up a second.


Right now, the 10th dimension contains all EVERYTHING inside it, right? In other words, the 10th dimension is infinite.


Now, let me get this straight, since the video stated that all dimensions are a mere subset of the 10th dimension, is it from this that you draw the fact that the 11th dimension, or even dimensions beyond the 11th dimension are inside the 10th dimension?


If this is the theory, then I guess that it would mean that the 11th dimension is in fact inside the 10th dimension.


However, as the video stated, there is a road block. Once you reach the 10th dimension, you can't get any higher. So if there is an 11th dimension, could it be that the 11th dimension which should be the greater "value" of the 10th dimension, could also just be a mere subset of the 10th dimension. Could the 11th dimension be just another duplicate of the 10th dimension?



If I have strayed way far from what you guys are discussing about, I am sorry, I just want to clarify this issue. ;)
We might actually be talking about the same thing, except we are saying maybe the 11th dimension exists outside of the 10th dimension, but also inside.
Also, the 10th dimension holds all infinities of all universes, not just one infinity.
I doubt the existence of an 11th dimension, if the 10th contained all infinities about everything, what the hell would the 11th contain?

(Don't blame me if i sound stupid, i'm only 13)
Read above posts.

Balddude
06-30-2009, 12:38 PM
We might actually be talking about the same thing, except we are saying maybe the 11th dimension exists outside of the 10th dimension, but also inside.
Also, the 10th dimension holds all infinities of all universes, not just one infinity.




Precisely, but how can something exist OUSIDE of the 10th dimension, if the 10th dimension holds the so called "infinity of infinity"? It is not logical, everything should be a subset of the 10th dimension.

wut
06-30-2009, 12:40 PM
Precisely, but how can something exist OUSIDE of the 10th dimension, if the 10th dimension holds the so called "infinity of infinity"? It is not logical, everything should be a subset of the 10th dimension.

But in theory, if a greater dimension exists,

the 10th would be a subset and all others will be a sub-subset.

Dylan
06-30-2009, 12:41 PM
Precisely, but how can something exist OUSIDE of the 10th dimension, if the 10th dimension holds the so called "infinity of infinity"? It is not logical, everything should be a subset of the 10th dimension.
You can look at it from a theistic view and call it heaven/hell.

or

M-theory/Supergravity shows an11th dimension, but I will not pretend to understand exactly what it says.

But basically, if it does exists outside of the 10th, it also HAS to exist inside the 10th.
So it in theory could exist outside, seeing as it would HAVE to also be inside.

Hamzter
07-01-2009, 03:59 AM
i hope you all know what Schrodinger's cat theory is, i dont wanna explain it.

But it solves all your questions

EmuBoy
07-01-2009, 04:10 AM
This doesnt work the first 6 I know are theoretically possible but the rest just dont work.... if you dont believe me i will get my cal tech theoretic science teach to tell you it isnt (it will be a little bit cause i am in NY right now for family issues)

zagert
07-01-2009, 11:32 AM
i hope you all know what Schrodinger's cat theory is, i dont wanna explain it.

But it solves all your questions

schrondingers cat? that's not even a intelligent thought never mind a theory, to me that name is a dirty word! that stupid piece of poop is all based on that falling tree thought ( if a tree falls and no one hears it fall, did it fall?) which is a load of $%&£.
heres a fact, did you know that teleportation is only possible if someone from the 4th dimension or a higher dimensio helps us. PM me if you have any queries.