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jfella91
06-05-2009, 01:36 PM
Alright, so I want to learn some things, but I'm not sure what I should choose or in what order I should learn them. Also, how long will it take to learn these languages?

Right now, I want to learn:
AS3
Java
HTML
PHP

I want to know HTML, PHP and AS3 so I can make some cool websites. I want to learn Java to maybe make some games. Is there a point in learning Java if I learn AS3? Or should I learn AS2 instead of AS3? Are any of these things far too time-consuming or difficult to learn by myself? I'm noob when it comes to this stuff, but I don't want to be anymore :( .
arabftw123
06-05-2009, 02:03 PM
If you're going to want to go into web design for real, you'll need to know more than just HTML and PHP - well, if you want to do it right at least. The good thing is that web design (and the "languages" assosciated with it) are fairly simple.

I'd learn the following in this order:

HTML - http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp
CSS - http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp
Javascript - http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp
PHP - http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp

^ The above site is the best when it comes to learning any web related programming. No doubt.

I'd go with javascript before PHP, because as far as languages go, Javascript isn't too difficult, and if this is your first, it'll get you a bit more prepared for PHP.

As for AS3/Java, I don't have much experience there. I know some things, but I'd rather let someone with experience in that field explain them.
HWV
06-05-2009, 02:30 PM
using the above website is fine, but it would always be good to go out and buy some old-fashioned textbooks :)

You should probably learn in this order:

HTML
CSS (need for template design/style)
PHP (extremely useful)
Python (great starter language)
Javascript
AS3
Java (Java isn't really necessary, and it's hella hard to learn)

PS: For any questions, pm me here and I'll answer promply :)

Always glad to see people interested in the subject i've spent my whole life indulged in :D
arabftw123
06-05-2009, 03:00 PM
using the above website is fine, but it would always be good to go out and buy some old-fashioned textbooks :)

You should probably learn in this order:

HTML
CSS (need for template design/style)
Python (great starter language)
AS3
Javascript (Java isn't really necessary, and it's hella hard to learn)

PS: For any questions, pm me here and I'll answer promply :)

Always glad to see people interested in the subject i've spent my whole life indulged in :D

I assume you meant Java instead of Javascript there at the bottom? Because Javascript isn't too difficult. :P
HWV
06-05-2009, 03:12 PM
You're right. AS3 should have been below JScript and Java should have been beneath both. Post edited.
Firstmate
06-05-2009, 03:36 PM
If you want to make cool websites. I think this order is better:

HTML
CSS
PHP/Javascript (either in any order)

Then you start to learn the actual programming languages.

-Java (java deals a lot with the server side part of stuff)
-AS3

But as HWV said, python is a great starter language.
C++ is also a widely used language for games. It also has more libraries (resources kinda) for stuff.
HWV
06-05-2009, 03:58 PM
did i leave out php? dammit. post re-edited
brohana
06-05-2009, 04:45 PM
Everyone I know who has attempted to learn AS3 says its the biggest pain they've ever encountered in programming. I would recommend only learning it when you have truely mastered stuff like PHP and javascript.
Firstmate
06-05-2009, 04:51 PM
AS3 isn't too bad. It's like any other language.
PiNGPaWN
06-05-2009, 09:47 PM
AS3 isn't too bad. It's like any other language.


In my opinion I think as3.0 is one of the easier languedges expecially with flash cs3/cs4.

Easier than php & java
If you want to learn all of those it will take like 5-10 years lol..
jfella91
06-06-2009, 01:41 AM
Alright, thanks for the feedback guys, I'm going to start teaching myself somewhat soon, I'll ask more questions here if I have any as I go along. Learning HTML, PHP, JS and CSS will take me what, 2-3 years?
arabftw123
06-06-2009, 01:39 PM
Alright, thanks for the feedback guys, I'm going to start teaching myself somewhat soon, I'll ask more questions here if I have any as I go along. Learning HTML, PHP, JS and CSS will take me what, 2-3 years?

I don't know where you and Ping seem to be getting years from. I don't know what your background is or how intelligent you are, but it really doesn't get simpler than HTML and CSS. It took me all of a week to get a handle on both. Naturally, there will always be areas for you to improve on and things you will learn as you go, but I don't think you guys understand just how long even one year is.
jfella91
06-06-2009, 02:10 PM
I don't know where you and Ping seem to be getting years from. I don't know what your background is or how intelligent you are, but it really doesn't get simpler than HTML and CSS. It took me all of a week to get a handle on both. Naturally, there will always be areas for you to improve on and things you will learn as you go, but I don't think you guys understand just how long even one year is.

Well that's good to know, I just estimated 2-3 years for those things after he said 5-10 for all of that stuff.