A Second Nuclear Crisis?

[OmegaLemming]

In the news lately I've noticed that the leader of North Korea is getting more and more defiant against nuclear weapon sanctions.
He's test quite a few missiles already, it's a bit unnerving.

Last I heard, even China was getting irritated with his irresponsible show of force. What do you guys think?

[Longgone]

boom boom boom! Hopefully we dont get blown up to smithereens.

[Maurinho]

Wtf usa should invade em... like we did with irak but idk if north korea has petrolium.anyways I still feel sure at usa :D idk about u O_____O

[Calisniper13]

There missiles suck. We need to backhand Jong-Il pretty soon.

[Hamzter]

nuke em,

problem solved

[SneaK]

Well, us living in USA & Canadia means dat we'll just "rape" ^.^ 'em if they even think about getting something that will launch those missles. 100% no chance they will fire 'em. No worries. I'll just Rambo 'em. :D

[jfella91]

US has that missile defense that Canada for some reason opted out of... although I doubt anyone would send missiles at Canada. Anyways, everyone is sick of that North Korean dictator, so something could happen.

[Ezio]

In the news lately I've noticed that the leader of North Korea is getting more and more defiant against nuclear weapon sanctions.
He's test quite a few missiles already, it's a bit unnerving.

Last I heard, even China was getting irritated with his irresponsible show of force. What do you guys think?
Least we know they have nuclear weapons... its Israel we should be afraid of.

[RaptorZ]

Where is Chuck Norris?!?!?!?! AAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NinjaEx]

Gotta get that....gotta get that...gotta get that tha tha that, Boom boom boom. Gotta get that boom boom boom.

[Soul]

I doubt north korea will do it. I mean you'd have to be pretty damn stupid to launch a nuke at this day in age given that most of the larger NATO countries have nukes and large armies themselves.

So if in the event it happened north Korea and it's allies would be rubble.

[NinjaEx]

I doubt north korea will do it. I mean you'd have to be pretty damn stupid to launch a nuke at this day in age given that most of the larger NATO countries have nukes and large armies themselves.

So if in the event it happened north Korea and it's allies would be rubble.

Win, SoulHeadShot is win. I dare North Korea to even try...

[IrishDragon1234]

I doubt north korea will do it. I mean you'd have to be pretty damn stupid to launch a nuke at this day in age given that most of the larger NATO countries have nukes and large armies themselves.

So if in the event it happened north Korea and it's allies would be rubble.

That's the problem, would they do it? If they launched one at South Korea, it would result in a big war that they would have no chance of winning(possibly a WW3?). And of course if they even tried to attack Canada or the US, we would pretty much vaporize their country.

The problem is that they might do it even if they can't win in the long run. I mean, look at Iran. They have the military power to launch a high-casualty attack on almost any country including the US. Of course that would result in a war that would end with the US going through there like a fat kid through a box of Krispey Kremes, but they are crazy enough that they probably would do it.

The question is whether or not North Korea is also that crazy.

[Villyer]

I doubt north korea will do it. I mean you'd have to be pretty damn stupid to launch a nuke at this day in age given that most of the larger NATO countries have nukes and large armies themselves.

So if in the event it happened north Korea and it's allies would be rubble.


If this happened everybody would be rubble. Worldwide necular fallout = We all lose

[arabftw123]

For all of you people screaming war and whatnot, take a gander at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutually_assured_destruction

That's the problem, would they do it? If they launched one at South Korea, it would result in a big war that they would have no chance of winning(possibly a WW3?). And of course if they even tried to attack Canada or the US, we would pretty much vaporize their country.

The problem is that they might do it even if they can't win in the long run. I mean, look at Iran. They have the military power to launch a high-casualty attack on almost any country including the US. Of course that would result in a war that would end with the US going through there like a fat kid through a box of Krispey Kremes, but they are crazy enough that they probably would do it.

The question is whether or not North Korea is also that crazy.

The notion of a nuclear war is beyond moronic. Iran and the North Koreans might be 'crazy' by Western standards and ideologies, but that doesn't mean they don't possess any common sense. Going up against the United States using conventional military methods is one thing, but bringing nuclear weapons into the equation assures absolutely zero support among the international community, and at the very least a complete crippling of the nations military, economy, and government. That, and a few million deaths. Nothing big right?

Both WW1 and WW2 stemmed from extreme nationalism, imperialism, and alliances among the European countries designed to protect against the other alliances. Nationalism exists to an extent, but the other two factors no longer apply. A World War 3 will not occur, unless several major changes were to occur to the world.

[FlippysKnife]

I continue to stop caring until the missiles are launched at North America.
Then i watch CNN.

And maybe when North Korea uses nukes, all the big countries would want to use them too, in "defense", and North Korea may get epicly raped

[OmegaLemming]

I have to agree that unless Korea wants to pay the ultiamte price, they wouldn't bring a nuclear armament against another country with nuclear capabilities.

M.A.D. isn't just an abbrevation..

[DS]

I continue to stop caring until the missiles are launched at North America.
Then i watch CNN.

And maybe when North Korea uses nukes, all the big countries would want to use them too, in "defense", and North Korea may get epicly raped
That's a bit selfish don't you think? Best a sure if North Korea launches missiles at England then you'll care. If anything happens to England, most definitely we'll have to step in due to the fact they're helping us with Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Villyer]

That's a bit selfish don't you think? Best a sure if North Korea launches missiles at England then you'll care. If anything happens to England, most definitely we'll have to step in due to the fact they're helping us with Iraq and Afghanistan.


I agree with him. Im too young to be drafted, so as long as a nuke isnt heading for me, i dont care.

[FlippysKnife]

That's a bit selfish don't you think? Best a sure if North Korea launches missiles at England then you'll care. If anything happens to England, most definitely we'll have to step in due to the fact they're helping us with Iraq and Afghanistan.

North Korea has alot against the United States, because they think that their war was caused by the Americans and the war isnt over yet.
[Random glimpses of CNN ftw..]

I doubt theyll send one to England. and if they do, sure i'd care, but Europe wasnt really on my mind.

[And Canada doesnt have many defense systems o_O - +1 Paranoia]

[IrishDragon1234]

For all of you people screaming war and whatnot, take a gander at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutually_assured_destruction



The notion of a nuclear war is beyond moronic. Iran and the North Koreans might be 'crazy' by Western standards and ideologies, but that doesn't mean they don't possess any common sense. Going up against the United States using conventional military methods is one thing, but bringing nuclear weapons into the equation assures absolutely zero support among the international community, and at the very least a complete crippling of the nations military, economy, and government. That, and a few million deaths. Nothing big right?

Both WW1 and WW2 stemmed from extreme nationalism, imperialism, and alliances among the European countries designed to protect against the other alliances. Nationalism exists to an extent, but the other two factors no longer apply. A World War 3 will not occur, unless several major changes were to occur to the world.

You might find that governments severely lack common sense. High government officials may be high in intelligence, but more often than not they are lacking in common sense. Especially dictatorial governments.

Also about WW1 and 2. Your right that they started due to dangerous mixes of alliances and imperialism. But both nationalism and alliances still do apply. Most governments still are such good allies with each other that they would aid one another if ever attacked. This may not be in written documents that specifically say "If you get attacked we will help you fight"(there are some of those too), but the sort of interdependence and relations that modern nations have with one another is far more of a guarantee of aid than any document that says "We will help you".

Also just because that was the primary cause of the last 2 world wars does in no way mean that WW3 can only be caused in the same way.

[vAero]

Drop a hydrogen bomb on them. Problem solved.

[Hamzter]

You might find that governments severely lack common sense. High government officials may be high in intelligence, but more often than not they are lacking in common sense. Especially dictatorial governments.

Also about WW1 and 2. Your right that they started due to dangerous mixes of alliances and imperialism. But both nationalism and alliances still do apply. Most governments still are such good allies with each other that they would aid one another if ever attacked. This may not be in written documents that specifically say "If you get attacked we will help you fight"(there are some of those too), but the sort of interdependence and relations that modern nations have with one another is far more of a guarantee of aid than any document that says "We will help you".

Also just because that was the primary cause of the last 2 world wars does in no way mean that WW3 can only be caused in the same way.

The point Arab is making is that noone is stupid enough to result into nuclear war.

there was also a case during the cold war when a soviet computer malfunctioned and displayed an ICBM on the screen, and the one person at launch control didnt want to retaliate, even though he had full authorisation from the Kremlin


A North/South Korea war is likely by the way things are going (technically, it never ended), but not a nuclear war,

before you all start paniking and waving your hands in the air screaming, look at this:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41848000/gif/_41848620_north_korea_2_416x309.gif
a confusing map, but you gotta consider this:

The Tasepodong-2 CANNOT hold a nuclear warhead

so the North Koreans are unable to use an effective way of dispatching any nuclear arsenel

nuke em,

problem solved

Drop a hydrogen bomb on them. Problem solved.
way to go for ingenuity.... -_-

[Xenocide]

We die :( dooms day D:

[ArmyDude]

I was hoping he was dead for sure after that "heart attack" that he had.

[Marine22]

Lets just nuke them like we did to japan?

[IrishDragon1234]

The point Arab is making is that noone is stupid enough to result into nuclear war.

there was also a case during the cold war when a soviet computer malfunctioned and displayed an ICBM on the screen, and the one person at launch control didnt want to retaliate, even though he had full authorisation from the Kremlin


A North/South Korea war is likely by the way things are going (technically, it never ended), but not a nuclear war,

before you all start paniking and waving your hands in the air screaming, look at this:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41848000/gif/_41848620_north_korea_2_416x309.gif
a confusing map, but you gotta consider this:

The Tasepodong-2 CANNOT hold a nuclear warhead

so the North Koreans are unable to use an effective way of dispatching any nuclear arsenel




way to go for ingenuity.... -_-

This does make sense. So they're not capable of nuking America even if they were willing to, good news. Although they are capable of nuking South Korea and other countries closer to them.

btw I'm not trying to suggest that a nuclear war is likely either. I'm just saying its possible.

Also they could attack the US with weapons other than nuclear warheads. Again, I'm just trying to think in terms of a worst-case scenario, not the likely scenario.

[MyDogEatsLemons]

Who ever said 'we should watch our for Israel" is an idiot. We are the ones who give them weapons and support them as a country.

[Leonardo]

North Korea abuses their weapons.
And I have a feeling North Korea will be the most powerful-est country before USA.
Dun dun dunnnnn.

[DavidG363]

global government!

[Soul]

This does make sense. So they're not capable of nuking America even if they were willing to, good news. Although they are capable of nuking South Korea and other countries closer to them.

btw I'm not trying to suggest that a nuclear war is likely either. I'm just saying its possible.

Also they could attack the US with weapons other than nuclear warheads. Again, I'm just trying to think in terms of a worst-case scenario, not the likely scenario.

No they aren't capable of nuking south Korea. South Korea has support with a lot of countries not to mention the relative size of the countries might me north Korea could get effected too.

Gamma particles actually can travel pretty fast given there a form of protons and with the right wind that could cause massive fatalities on BOTH sides.

North Korea abuses their weapons.
And I have a feeling North Korea will be the most powerful-est country before USA.
Dun dun dunnnnn.

Unlikely

[xXsoYsoYsoYXx]

They can't launch them far.
They we're testing to see how far they COULD make the missiles go, right?
And they were bragging because it was one of the biggest nuke explosions evar <_<.

[Soul]

They can't launch them far.
They we're testing to see how far they COULD make the missiles go, right?
And they were bragging because it was one of the biggest nuke explosions evar <_<.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ

[Hamzter]

No they aren't capable of nuking south Korea. South Korea has support with a lot of countries not to mention the relative size of the countries might me north Korea could get effected too.

Gamma particles actually can travel pretty fast given there a form of protons and with the right wind that could cause massive fatalities on BOTH sides.



Unlikely

the thing i'm worried about, is that i'm unsure there actually is a leader in North Korea, and dont forget, the North Koreans are in starvation and in a bankrupt currency, so i doubt they would care about a few North Koreans being killed by radioactive fallout

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ
he meant the largest nuke the North Koreans had ever detonated

[OmegaLemming]

Drop a hydrogen bomb on them. Problem solved.

They would have to attack us first. America has never gone to war with someone without what we consider "just cause":

World War I was a war against the first Axis powers which included Germany, Italy, and Austria-Hungary.
The reason? The Axis was infuriated that the Archduke was attacked and retaliated against all Serbian allies.

World War II was a war against the second Axis powers Germany, Italy, Japan, and for a short time the Russians (who became our ally). Obviously, the reason we went to war was to fight Japan for Pearl Harbor, but Hitler was a major secondary reason.

Vietnam War was a civil war we were trying to help with, to prevent the nation from becoming communist.

Korean War was similar, but instead of reuniting they permanently became two separate countries.

North Korea hasn't attacked us yet, so we technically have no grounds to confirm actions of war. Not only would we look bad, we'd probably lose a lot of our allies by initiating a war on false premises.

[Twilly]

Only /b/ can save us.





OH THE HORROR!



Nah, I don't care, just call Chuck Norris. The only war I care about is the one in my sig.

-Thank you.

[SkYScorn]

Well, us living in USA & Canadia means dat we'll just "rape" ^.^ 'em if they even think about getting something that will launch those missles. 100% no chance they will fire 'em. No worries. I'll just Rambo 'em. :D

I'm gonna Rambo them first. I'll bet all of Rlin06's points >.>

[Nitex1337]

USA got 65Million more Nukes then any other contrey, I dont care what they do, everyones scard of USA and we should be fine. If not we'll destory there whole contrey. ^_^

[Twilly]

USA got 65Million more Nukes then any other contrey, I dont care what they do, everyones scard of USA and we should be fine. If not we'll destory there whole contrey. ^_^

First, learn to spell and use correct grammar.

Second, doubt we'll ever use those nukes.

[Nitex1337]

First, learn to spell and use correct grammar.

Second, doubt we'll ever use those nukes.

Nev4! I Sp311 H0w I W4nT!

[Twilly]

Nev4! I Sp311 H0w I W4nT!

Lmao, ok Nixon.

Anyhow, do you realise how many wildlife activists would protest to such a launch of missles? O_o
Not that I blame them.

[greb]

Its sort of funny...

We invade the guy who said he has no nukes.

We ignore the guy whos waving his arms yelling "I got nukes! I got nukes!"

[Da2Shae]

Wtf usa should invade em... like we did with irak but idk if north korea has petrolium.anyways I still feel sure at usa :D idk about u O_____O

Too risky, they'll bomb us before we even get there...

[Twilly]

Too risky, they'll bomb us before we even get there...

Not unless we're....................STEALTHY. ;D



I thought of Boxxy when I said STEALTHY. o_o....

[Soul]

he meant the largest nuke the North Koreans had ever detonated

I'm sorry guess I misread :)

USA got 65Million more Nukes then any other contrey, I dont care what they do, everyones scard of USA and we should be fine. If not we'll destory there whole contrey. ^_^

First off that's a really bad exaggeration the US has around 70,000 nuclear missiles of various types.

The Russians however have somewhere about 120,000. The US has better targeting capabilities. (I.E ICBMs) however the Russians make up for it with either: Bigger bombs or more bombs. However the russians are the inventors of the ICBM they just have their own model.

However in terms of who has the ability to cause the most destruction, they each have about 2,000 nukes ready to launch at any time.


Only /b/ can save us.

Rule 1 and 2 foo!

[Twilly]

I'm sorry guess I misread :)



First off that's a really bad exaggeration the US has around 70,000 nuclear missiles of various types.

The Russians however have somewhere about 120,000. The US has better targeting capabilities. (I.E ICBMs) however the Russians make up for it with either: Bigger bombs or more bombs. However the russians are the inventors of the ICBM they just have their own model.

However in terms of who has the ability to cause the most destruction, they each have about 2,000 nukes ready to launch at any time.




Rule 1 and 2 foo!

But are they willing to set them off in case of this new "outburst"?

[Soul]

But are they willing to set them off in case of this new "outburst"?

I doubt it. I'm fairly certain it would be an amphibious or airborn invasion. There really wouldn't need to be nuclear detonations and I'm sure the UN knows this.

Now we pray to the non-existing god that thw UN doesn't turn into another 'league of nations'

[Soul]

Maybe it's for the better.

Humanity will deny it but there all hoping for something catastrophic. I'm absolutely certain that humanity was rooting for the swine flu.

[Twilly]

i doubt it. I'm fairly certain it would be an amphibious or airborn invasion. There really wouldn't need to be nuclear detonations and i'm sure the un knows this.

Now we pray to the non-existing god that thw un doesn't turn into another 'league of nations'

Heil league of nations!

[maggerz]

Wtf usa should invade em... like we did with irak but idk if north korea has petrolium.anyways I still feel sure at usa :D idk about u O_____O

You're an idiot.

Anyway, i think this is very concerning. Yesterday, they tested a continent-to-continent missile.

Nuclear war pl0x.

[Hamzter]

Herro!
http://www.unreel.co.uk/reviews/t/Team_America_World_Police/teamamerica_09.jpg

The UN is already useless. They keep telling N Korea to stop, it isn't stopping, and the UN is doing nothing.

It already has =)

anyhoo, the UN have pretty much put all sanctions on N korea,

so thats the reason for their failing economy and starving population,

plus we ALSO have china on our side,

US+Russia+China = total overkill

[jinyanger]

Whatsa Dictator with nuclear bombs for?