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Well my teacher...is weird. She said
"if you answer this you will get a reward"
SOOOOO
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
NAO.....Some idiot said the egg because dinosars where the first animal....lol wut a nerd :/
Killah
05-24-2009, 10:04 PM
Put simply, the reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life.
Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg.
Villyer
05-24-2009, 10:04 PM
Egg.
If you believe in evolution. (which is taught, so it must be true.) The chicken would be the result of a mutation, so when this mutated chicken is created, its in an egg. Then the chicken hatches. so egg first.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:05 PM
Well my teacher...is weird. She said
"if you answer this you will get a reward"
SOOOOO
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
NAO.....Some idiot said the egg because dinosars where the first animal....lol wut a nerd :/
No, that kid is a retard, not a nerd, a full blown retard. Dinosaurs were not the first animal in the existience of the earth. Life started out in the seas, with simple organisms (unless you want to consider the microrganisms). Cockroaches came beore the dinosaurs, spiders came before the cockroaches, fish came before the spider, jellyfish came before the fish.
Oh, and it'd be the egg, seeing as the Chicken was not created. The animal of which the chicken evolved from is where it came from. The wild chickens of Asia, which where then domesticated. Wild chickens of asia, lay the egg, becomes the domesticated chicken.
End of question, egg came first.
ChangE
05-24-2009, 10:09 PM
Its the Egg.
Reason: The egg would have to be first so when it grows up it will learn the ways how to survive. If it was the chicken the next egg would not know how to survive as young there for die. The Egg was also there first because alot the chicken would have just came out of no where. The egg would come from cells that produced the egg.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:10 PM
Its the Egg.
Reason: The egg would have to be first so when it grows up it will learn the ways how to survive. If it was the chicken the next egg would not know how to survive as young there for die. The Egg was also there first because alot the chicken would have just came out of no where. The egg would come from cells that produced the egg.
Actually, I would like to see some ignorant people who have no understanding of life it self answer this question. I can imagine it now
"God"
Egg.
If you believe in evolution. (which is taught, so it must be true.) The chicken would be the result of a mutation, so when this mutated chicken is created, its in an egg. Then the chicken hatches. so egg first.
Yea but.....w/e
Put simply, the reason is down to the fact that genetic material does not change during an animal's life.
Therefore the first bird that evolved into what we would call a chicken, probably in prehistoric times, must have first existed as an embryo inside an egg.
You seem to be to smart.
Actually, I would like to see some ignorant people who have no understanding of life it self answer this question. I can imagine it now
"God"
Don't turn this into a religous debate twilly.....make your own thread.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:17 PM
Yea but.....w/e
You seem to be to smart.
Don't turn this into a religous debate twilly.....make your own thread.
I'm not, but they will, just wait. I just know it. ;D
Oh, egg. :P
You seem to be to smart.
Lol, he copied and pasted it from this article. http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/ Looking at the posts above me, it seems like the egg did indeed come first.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:22 PM
Lol, he copied and pasted it from this article. http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/ Looking at the posts above me, it seems like the egg did indeed come first.
Lolownt! :P
Lol, he copied and pasted it from this article. http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/ Looking at the posts above me, it seems like the egg did indeed come first.
WAT A FAIL....
Yea but no one has proof the egg came first...so how can i say the egg.....Or is it just the fact the question can not be answered?
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:26 PM
WAT A FAIL....
Yea but no one has proof the egg came first...so how can i say the egg.....Or is it just the fact the question can not be answered?
Ok, first. Which chicken? :\
Domesticated
Wild
Which?
Janxa
05-24-2009, 10:26 PM
Is this a chicken egg? or any egg?
blondie
05-24-2009, 10:27 PM
I don't see a single original opinion, so what's the difference between copying and pasting and just saying what someone else says?
It is the chicken. The answer to the past lies in the present. Any new species that have appeared are either evolved from another species, or whatever. No egg was suddenly found.
Lol at the God comment. God laid an egg?
No, that kid is a retard, not a nerd, a full blown retard. Dinosaurs were not the first animal in the existience of the earth. Life started out in the seas, with simple organisms (unless you want to consider the microrganisms). Cockroaches came beore the dinosaurs, spiders came before the cockroaches, fish came before the spider, jellyfish came before the fish.
Oh, and it'd be the egg, seeing as the Chicken was not created. The animal of which the chicken evolved from is where it came from. The wild chickens of Asia, which where then domesticated. Wild chickens of asia, lay the egg, becomes the domesticated chicken.
End of question, egg came first.
The sponge came before jellyfish.
Egg came first to the logic that was said before. =]
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:29 PM
I don't see a single original opinion, so what's the difference between copying and pasting and just saying what someone else says?
It is the chicken. The answer to the past lies in the present. Any new species that have appeared are either evolved from another species, or whatever. No egg was suddenly found.
Lol at the God comment. God laid an egg?
So, the chicken was created in you're opinion?
Dylan
05-24-2009, 10:31 PM
I say that the first embryo of a chicken was made from a "La Choy" soy sauce bottle that the chicken FSM made accidentally.
SneaK
05-24-2009, 10:32 PM
Both. Obviously either or could've come first. So if you were there, prove me wrong. Are you like 10000000000 years old? Didn't think so. This is definantly an invalid debate. The answer will never be known.
TheZombie
05-24-2009, 10:32 PM
Easy way to answer this question. Think of the question like this" Which came frist? The Adult or the baby?
If you understnad how much care a baby needs, you'd know that the chicken came frist.
Killah
05-24-2009, 10:33 PM
Lol, he copied and pasted it from this article. http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/ Looking at the posts above me, it seems like the egg did indeed come first.
Aw. I was gonna see if anyone could find out. Go figure it would be you. :P
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:33 PM
I say that the first embryo of a chicken was made from a "La Choy" soy sauce bottle that the chicken FSM made accidentally.
Win post if win
Oh, and nice spelling Tone. ;)
Both. Obviously either or could've come first. So if you were there, prove me wrong. Are you like 10000000000 years old? Didn't think so. This is definantly an invalid debate. The answer will never be known.
Making an egg causes reproduction. An egg can't come out of no where from anything. That's like creating a baby without intercourse.
" Which came frist? The Adult of the baby?
But how did it come to earth....If you don't believe in god its imposible...
TheZombie
05-24-2009, 10:35 PM
But how did it come to earth....If you don't believe in god its imposible...
Think of it as... which came frist? The Cow or beef.
Think of it as... which came frist? The Cow or beef.
Both....A cow is beef. Beef comes from a cow. It is called beef since it is alive.
Killah
05-24-2009, 10:37 PM
But how did it come to earth....If you don't believe in god its imposible...
Some scientists believe cells came out of the water and developed into other animals.
These animals then evolved into other animals, etc. etc. And then Humans.
TheZombie
05-24-2009, 10:37 PM
Both....A cow is beef. Beef comes from a cow. It is called beef since it is alive.
Yes, but in order to get the beef, you must have a cow. Get what I mean now?
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:38 PM
But how did it come to earth....If you don't believe in god its imposible...
The mutated baby of a ****-sapein which is how the Human race started. :P
Villyer
05-24-2009, 10:39 PM
Ok. Im gonna rephrase my origional statement.
Where does a chicken come from? An egg. It must.
But where does that egg come from? A chicken?
Well... not always.
An animal very similar to a chicken, but not quite a chicken (like a cousin species), lays an egg. In the creation of this egg, a genetic mutation occoured. So the egg is now has the same genetic make-up of present day chickens. Inside this egg. a chicken forms.
Therefore, egg first.
^try to prove it wrong^
Yes, but in order to get the beef, you must have a cow. Get what I mean now?
No cause you still havent told me how the cow came.....
And in order to get an egg....You need a chicken....BUT how did that chicken get made. it must of been from an egg.....But there needs to be a chicken to make the egg..........SO WTF!!!!!!
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:41 PM
Ok. Im gonna rephrase my origional statement.
Where does a chicken come from? An egg. It must.
But where does that egg come from? A chicken?
Well... not always.
An animal very similar to a chicken, but not quite a chicken (like a cousin species), lays an egg. In the creation of this egg, a genetic mutation occoured. So the egg is now has the same genetic make-up of present day chickens. Inside this egg. a chicken forms.
Therefore, egg first.
^try to prove it wrong^
I said that already...In a different sense though
Hamo, HOW THE HELL would an egg survive, or just appear? Think about it.
The egg came first!
The fish was here before chickens. Fish had eggs! Chickens came way after.
Villyer
05-24-2009, 10:42 PM
The egg came first!
The fish was here before chickens. Fish had eggs! Chickens came way after.
They mean chicken egg...
TheZombie
05-24-2009, 10:43 PM
No cause you still havent told me how the cow came.....
And in order to get an egg....You need a chicken....BUT how did that chicken get made. it must of been from an egg.....But there needs to be a chicken to make the egg..........SO WTF!!!!!!
um.. fracking science.... I say the chicken came frist.
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Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:43 PM
Wait, I just got it.
Nether came first, due to the facct that micro-organisms do not lay eggs.
Multipication came first.
No cause you still havent told me how the cow came.....
And in order to get an egg....You need a chicken....BUT how did that chicken get made. it must of been from an egg.....But there needs to be a chicken to make the egg..........SO WTF!!!!!!
The chicken is not the only thing that makes eggs.
FusiouS
05-24-2009, 10:44 PM
I say the egg. Because god put egg on land and then it hatched. question answered, Next!
They mean chicken egg...
Where the hell does it say chicken egg. Nowhere, people were just referring to chicken egg because the question was "Chicken or Egg?". Because of the word "chicken" they thought of chicken egg.
I say the egg. Because god put egg on land and then it hatched. question answered, Next!
Don't bring religion to this. Evolution is real.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:45 PM
i say the egg. Because god put egg on land and then it hatched. Question answered, next!
I told you!!! I effin told you all.
daridmetch1
05-24-2009, 10:46 PM
Its the Egg.
Reason: The egg would have to be first so when it grows up it will learn the ways how to survive. If it was the chicken the next egg would not know how to survive as young there for die. The Egg was also there first because alot the chicken would have just came out of no where. The egg would come from cells that produced the egg.
i agree, especially with last part. So yea i think and "believe" the egg came first/
Also nice signiture rofl
Where the hell does it say chicken egg. Nowhere, people were just referring to chicken egg because the question was "Chicken or Egg?". Because of the word "chicken" they thought of chicken egg.
Don't bring religion to this. Evolution is real.
Hate to break it to you but it is the chicken egg.
Like the chicken comes from a chicken egg.
KiteRider
05-24-2009, 10:46 PM
Correct answer:
I came first
Logically...and scientifically., the egg. It has to hatch right? Perhaps its parent was ancestor, and it was the first to 'appear' as a chicken.
Villyer's analysis is Win
FusiouS
05-24-2009, 10:46 PM
Well it's true. God made this place that you are in now. Earth and everything. The killing things, etc.
I told you!!! I effin told you all.
No. God brought the first organisms on Earth. The evolved. In the future, everyone will think we're crazy because we believed in God. Right now, we think the Greeks were crazy of polytheism.
I told you!!! I effin told you all.
Lol this is starting...
SO NO GOD STUFF!!!!!!!
I think that the question can't be answered.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:48 PM
Well it's true. God made this place that you are in now. Earth and everything. The killing things, etc.
Proof or GTFO this thread creationist.
Well it's true. God made this place that you are in now. Earth and everything. The killing things, etc.
What if you were Greek. You think Gaea, Uranus, and Rhea made everything?
FusiouS
05-24-2009, 10:49 PM
Explain how the f god did not make it. Honestly. We have believed in god for idk how long. It actually makes sense on what god has done. And if you read the bible all the events that are happening right now are predicted in the bible.
BAM, I belive you just got told xD
Villyer
05-24-2009, 10:50 PM
Well it's true. God made this place that you are in now. Earth and everything. The killing things, etc.
This thread isnt about religion. Its about evolution. But hey, give me proof that god created the chicken and/or chicken egg, and you have a valid argument.
Hate to break it to you but it is the chicken egg.
Like the chicken comes from a chicken egg.
The chicken is in the egg. This question cannot be answered.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:50 PM
What if you were Greek. You think Gaea, Uranus, and Rhea made everything?
He has no proof.
All he's gonna say is the bible. I'll answer it before he posts.
The bible saying that life came from the magic man is like saying Harry Potter is right on how you can fix glasses with a stick.
Edit: He already answered XD
No you're arguement fails.
Proof or GTFO, I already proved you wrong. Proof. Noaw.
FusiouS
05-24-2009, 10:52 PM
You already knew knowing me that I would bring religious into this thread. So gtfo. Don't make a thread that you will think religion will get involved.
Explain how the f god did not make it. Honestly. We have believed in god for idk how long. It actually makes sense on what god has done. And if you read the bible all the events that are happening right now are predicted in the bible.
BAM, I belive you just got told xD
No. The Christians got the idea of God from the Greeks. How long has the Greeks believed in the Gods. And in the bible, the same stuff happens over and over again.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:53 PM
You already knew knowing me that I would bring religious into this thread. So gtfo. Don't make a thread that you will think religion will get involved.
Look, no one but me wants you here, so just be quiet, and...GTFO. So that we can have our disscussion about evolution not creationism.
blondie
05-24-2009, 10:54 PM
Hate to break it to you but it is the chicken egg.
Like the chicken comes from a chicken egg.
...
Even though you started the thread, that's not what the original debate was. Who cares about chickens? It's which came first, the egg or the animal/mammal.
Leave god out of this. What if God's a chicken huh? What'd happen then? ETERNAL CONSEQUENCES THAT'S WHAT.
It is almost impossible for a single entity to survive by itself. This was mentioned, but no one directly addressed it. Unlike humans, an animal/mammal usually does not care for is not it's own offspring or even it's own species.
To the God preachers: Religion is just going to get this thread locked. You think you're smart, but go be smart somewhere else. No one cares about God in a logical debate.
FusiouS
05-24-2009, 10:55 PM
ok. I think that two creatures had sex and made an egg and it came out a baby chick. Bam and done.
He has no proof.
All he's gonna say is the bible. I'll answer it before he posts.
The bible saying that life came from the magic man is like saying Harry Potter is right on how you can fix glasses with a stick.
Edit: He already answered XD
No you're arguement fails.
Proof or GTFO, I already proved you wrong. Proof. Noaw.
Doesn't it say in the bible that God is the only god, and don't believe in anyone else. WTF? Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Ares, Athena, etc. They are gods too.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:56 PM
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Even though you started the thread, that's not what the original debate was. Who cares about chickens? It's which came first, the egg or the animal/mammal.
Leave god out of this. What if God's a chicken huh? What'd happen then? ETERNAL CONSEQUENCES THAT'S WHAT.
It is almost impossible for a single entity to survive by itself. This was mentioned, but no one directly addressed it. Unlike humans, an animal/mammal usually does not care for is not it's own offspring or even it's own species.
To the God preachers: Religion is just going to get this thread locked. You think you're smart, but go be smart somewhere else. No one cares about God in a logical debate.
Lolololol ^^ Listen to him.
Anyhow. Here's the list.
Multipilcation - Eggs - Live Birth
Multipilcation came first. End of disscussion (or is it).
blondie
05-24-2009, 10:56 PM
ok. I think that two creatures had sex and made an egg and it came out a baby chick. Bam and done.
So your answer is chicken. Lol.
FusiouS
05-24-2009, 10:57 PM
Well all I am saying is that bible has truth. If you read the bible it shows all the events that are currently happening in this world making it a logical book.
Villyer
05-24-2009, 10:57 PM
Doesn't it say in the bible that God is the only god, and don't believe in anyone else. WTF? Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Ares, Athena, etc. They are gods too.
I say just stop mentoning any gods at all here. This is about evolution.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 10:57 PM
So your answer is chicken. Lol.
Of course. He was just preaching that creationism is the answer to it.
Edit: To the religious guy, seriously shut up. You have no proof of your claims. Claim to me your book is all truth. Then prove to me that the Quran and Oddysey is all lies.
Dylan
05-24-2009, 10:58 PM
Look, no one but me wants you here, so just be quiet, and...GTFO. So that we can have our disscussion about evolution not creationism.
True that.
Look, bloodyangel13 wannabe that calls himself fusious, we all know that god is a hilarious fake fairy tale about raping women and their daughters and throwing boulders at hookers, we can get our laughs from it's contradictions, but please don't say that the chicken came first because this fairy tale said so.
END ALL RELIGION TALK NAU.
Although the theists do gimme a chuckle...
Well all I am saying is that bible has truth. If you read the bible it shows all the events that are currently happening in this world making it a logical book.
Some things in the bible is bs. Admit it.
Villyer
05-24-2009, 10:58 PM
The answer is still egg. You cant say it isnt.
The answer is still egg. You cant say it isnt.
No one is arguing with you. The answer is egg, unless you have logic like Twilly. Multiplication comes first always though.
FusiouS
05-24-2009, 11:00 PM
Hades. I can agree to that. And I got a name change. Look at my threads on this account. It shows that I got one from bloodyangel13 to this. Thank you very much.
I say a certain mamal/animal started it. 2 different animals had sex out came an egg and pop here is a new species. Gotta take it to all the DNA and a punnet square or w/e you call it.
blondie
05-24-2009, 11:01 PM
No one is arguing with you. The answer is egg, unless you have logic like Twilly. Multiplication comes first always though.
"It isn't."
Seriously. Stop saying 'end of discussion' or 'that's your answer.' Everyone on Earth has heard this question, and the one person that can come up with a completely original debate that can prove the egg came first is definitely not on pawn.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 11:02 PM
Hades. I can agree to that. And I got a name change. Look at my threads on this account. It shows that I got one from bloodyangel13 to this. Thank you very much.
I say a certain mamal/animal started it. 2 different animals had sex out came an egg and pop here is a new species.
Mammals don't lay eggs....
Hades. I can agree to that. And I got a name change. Look at my threads on this account. It shows that I got one from bloodyangel13 to this. Thank you very much.
I say a certain mamal/animal started it. 2 different animals had sex out came an egg and pop here is a new species. Gotta take it to all the DNA and a punnet square or w/e you call it.
Mammals could have not make chickens or any birds! Mammals came after Birds.
Dylan
05-24-2009, 11:03 PM
Hades. I can agree to that. And I got a name change. Look at my threads on this account. It shows that I got one from bloodyangel13 to this. Thank you very much.
I say a certain mamal/animal started it. 2 different animals had sex out came an egg and pop here is a new species.
I said you are not bloodyangel13 because I know you are not.
You stole my old friend r3st1npeaces account when he was an elite and you stole bloodyangel13 to because eh account shared with you and everyone that has brains can tell you are not him.
and you just said you believe the bibles teachings about the created things, and now say two dogs did it and made a whole new species.
I don't know about your dogs, but my dogs never ave birth to freaking tiger sharks.
FusiouS
05-24-2009, 11:03 PM
ok twilly. 2 "things" Had sex and layed an egg and pop out comes the chicken. There is a logical answer. SEX IS WHAT DID IT
EDIT: I didn't steal r3st. you need to get your facts straight and get your nose out where it doesn't belong.
Villyer
05-24-2009, 11:03 PM
"It isn't."
Seriously. Stop saying 'end of discussion' or 'that's your answer.' Everyone on Earth has heard this question, and the one person that can come up with a completely original debate that can prove the egg came first is definitely not on pawn.
Ok. Im gonna rephrase my origional statement.
Where does a chicken come from? An egg. It must.
But where does that egg come from? A chicken?
Well... not always.
An animal very similar to a chicken, but not quite a chicken (like a cousin species), lays an egg. In the creation of this egg, a genetic mutation occoured. So the egg is now has the same genetic make-up of present day chickens. Inside this egg. a chicken forms.
Therefore, egg first.
^try to prove it wrong^
Yay for quoting myself.
And so far i think that does the trick of answering this question. But im open to debate.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 11:04 PM
Mammals could have not make chickens or any birds! Mammals came after Birds.
Wrong.
Dinosaurs evolved into Birds.
The first Mammal was in the Jurassic period, WAY before the modern day birds.
TheZombie
05-24-2009, 11:06 PM
Mammals don't lay eggs....
Wow.. how could he not of know that? The general population is getting dumer and dumer.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 11:07 PM
Wow.. how could he not of know that? The general population is getting dumer and dumer.
Idk. Lmao
Unless he was refering to the Platapus.
daridmetch1
05-24-2009, 11:08 PM
Explain how the f god did not make it. Honestly. We have believed in god for idk how long. It actually makes sense on what god has done. And if you read the bible all the events that are happening right now are predicted in the bible.
BAM, I belive you just got told xD
true but still... your off topic. This thread is about evolution/theoretical problems and not religion. Get back on topic and think in a way about evolution.
And yes i somewat agree with you but it has nothing to do with this thread...
Btw, yes he did get told rofl :D
blondie
05-24-2009, 11:09 PM
Ok. Im gonna rephrase my origional statement.
Where does a chicken come from? An egg. It must.
But where does that egg come from? A chicken?
Well... not always.
An animal very similar to a chicken, but not quite a chicken (like a cousin species), lays an egg. In the creation of this egg, a genetic mutation occoured. So the egg is now has the same genetic make-up of present day chickens. Inside this egg. a chicken forms.
Therefore, egg first.
^try to prove it wrong^.
It's not wrong. It's a theory. I don't agree, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.
Once upon a time, there was a flower that got struck by lightning. It turned it to a chicken.
^try to prove it wrong.^
Wow.. how could he not of know that? The general population is getting dumer and dumer.
This is one of those things that should be sigged.
FusiouS
05-24-2009, 11:10 PM
lol darid. You are a lil late. I already moved on past religious and on to revolution!! :D
because it is physically impossible for a lightning strike to do that. Lightning is fire and will ALWAYS make it burn.
Villyer
05-24-2009, 11:11 PM
It's not wrong. It's a theory. I don't agree, but that doesn't mean it's wrong.
Once upon a time, there was a flower that got struck by lightning. It turned it to a chicken.
^try to prove it wrong.^
Well, thats not possible. The molecules in a flower arent substantial enough to be transformed into a chicken, no matter the energy provided...
Dylan
05-24-2009, 11:11 PM
ok twilly. 2 "things" Had sex and layed an egg and pop out comes the chicken. There is a logical answer. SEX IS WHAT DID IT
EDIT: I didn't steal r3st. you need to get your facts straight and get your nose out where it doesn't belong.
So two birds can RIGHT NOW can have sex and give birth to hammerhead shark eggs?
I have r3st on MSN and talk to him on CA, and you act so much differently then him, and I see you didn't deny stealing bloody.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 11:12 PM
true but still... your off topic. This thread is about evolution/theoretical problems and not religion. Get back on topic and think in a way about evolution.
And yes i somewat agree with you but it has nothing to do with this thread...
Btw, yes he did get told rofl :D
Ok, I shall "tell" him.
Explain how god did make everything. The concept belief of a god was to fill the void of problems not being able to answer. If it wasn't for technollogy today, we wouldn't have so many Atheists. The fact is, you're stating that a massive world wide flood is happening right now? That a young boy killed a giant beast. That one man is rising from the dead?
Is this the part where I go BAM?
FusiouS
05-24-2009, 11:14 PM
And dylan. I know I am not r3st. Darius had given me rest once before. And I am bloodyangel13. I was on an account named zack(number's that I forgot) When he had given it to me.
EDIT: And actually dylan they can. You have no proof whats so ever that they can't.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 11:14 PM
And dylan. I know I am r3st. Darius had given me rest once before. And I am bloodyangel13.
Off topic boy.
ROLFRORFLROFL
Go get two birds. And breed them, tell us the resluts.
I do hope it's a rino, as I always wanted one.
IrishDragon1234
05-24-2009, 11:25 PM
Ok, I shall "tell" him.
Explain how god did make everything. The concept belief of a god was to fill the void of problems not being able to answer. If it wasn't for technollogy today, we wouldn't have so many Atheists. The fact is, you're stating that a massive world wide flood is happening right now? That a young boy killed a giant beast. That one man is rising from the dead?
Is this the part where I go BAM?
Good job Twilly!!!
Stop arguing with him and stop telling him that he should stop. Your the one that started it so you should be the one to finish it.
This thread is going off topic and its all your fault, lol.
On topic, Iduno which came first. Maybe a male bird had epic buttsmex with a female animal-thingy, the animal-thingy didn't lay eggs so it gave birth to the first of a species that did lay eggs just like it's father.
Voala! Teh chik'n iz boarn!!1!!!
Twilly
05-24-2009, 11:29 PM
Good job Twilly!!!
Stop arguing with him and stop telling him that he should stop. Your the one that started it so you should be the one to finish it.
This thread is going off topic and its all your fault, lol.
On topic, Iduno which came first. Maybe a male bird had epic buttsmex with a female animal-thingy, the animal-thingy didn't lay eggs so it gave birth to the first of a species that did lay eggs just like it's father.
Voala! Teh chik'n iz boarn!!1!!!
Actually. I did stop it. Read the start of the thread. I just warned you all that someone like him would come. Then I went back on topic. Which then, HE CAME.
IrishDragon1234
05-24-2009, 11:32 PM
Actually. I did stop it. Read the start of the thread. I just warned you all that someone like him would come. Then I went back on topic. Which then, HE CAME.
And he came because you said he would come. You were the first post on this thread to mention religion.
Lets go get a time machine and have you NOT post that comment, I'll bet you anything nobody else will bring religion into it. We can also go see if the chicken came before the egg while were at it.
Twilly
05-24-2009, 11:34 PM
And he came because you said he would come. You were the first post on this thread to mention religion.
Lets go get a time machine and have you NOT post that comment, I'll bet you anything nobody else will bring religion into it. We can also go see if the chicken came before the egg while were at it.
I was JUST thinking that. Lmao.
Shure, I'll stop, as long as he'll stop.
And I'll state again. Multipilcation came first! D:
IrishDragon1234
05-24-2009, 11:48 PM
I was JUST thinking that. Lmao.
Shure, I'll stop, as long as he'll stop.
And I'll state again. Multipilcation came first! D:
Ok. But first you have to make a thread in every forum section that says: "I R BELIEVING IN EP1CK CRE4TIONIST TH3ISM AND I GAVE BIRTH T0 THE FIRST CHICKEN AND TEH FIRST EGG AT THE SAME TIME!!!1!!!!!!11!!".
lol you should do that xD
Pochitos
05-25-2009, 12:25 AM
Some from of life evolved into a chicken. Then the chicken had an egg.
TheCriminaL
05-25-2009, 12:27 AM
Obviously the egg came first.
blondie
05-25-2009, 12:34 AM
Well, thats not possible. The molecules in a flower arent substantial enough to be transformed into a chicken, no matter the energy provided...
The 'molecules' in nothing can't be transformed into the universe, but people still believe in god.
EDIT: And actually dylan they can. You have no proof whats so ever that they can't.
Lol. It's never happened before. That's proof. Actually, it's evidence. Your statement is pretty stupid as it is though. I don't like saying that, but it's true.
Longgone
05-25-2009, 12:48 AM
I came first.
brohana
05-25-2009, 01:26 AM
Im gonna say egg because animals laid eggs before chickens even evolved.
Thats only if you think of it as a trick question :D
maggerz
05-25-2009, 03:49 AM
My head hurts :(
FusiouS
05-25-2009, 03:53 AM
I'm with you maggerz :\
And noone agreez with me so...
Twilly
05-25-2009, 05:31 AM
Bacteria did.
Which then multiplied. >_>
Hamzter
05-25-2009, 05:36 AM
your mother did...
which gave birth to a chicken,
which gave birth to an egg
OK
OK
OK
OK
The chicken did'n't come to earth first cause it needs an egg to hatch.
The egg didn't come first because its needs kinky sex to be made.
Nightmare
05-25-2009, 06:39 AM
The egg. The chicken had to come from somewhere, it was probably a cross breed of some other ancient animals. And it would then be born in an egg :P
RubiKz
05-25-2009, 06:57 AM
Egg. I always thought that for the Chicken to be produced. It must come from an Egg first?
lostvoid
05-25-2009, 08:17 AM
Is an egg a chicken egg due to the egg being birthed by a chicken or due to the egg bearing the genetic material of a chicken?
manixxx
05-25-2009, 08:28 AM
God made an egg,
egg hatches,
Egg is first
=D
Villyer
05-25-2009, 11:43 AM
The 'molecules' in nothing can't be transformed into the universe, but people still believe in god.
People believe in god to explain how the universe was formed. But since the religion was invented, we've come up with the laws of motion, and other laws which pretty much proe that theory wrong. But they never listen to me. But soon i shal perfect my argument. JUst to make them all look like fools.
daridmetch1
05-25-2009, 11:50 AM
People believe in god to explain how the universe was formed. But since the religion was invented, we've come up with the laws of motion, and other laws which pretty much proe that theory wrong. But they never listen to me. But soon i shal perfect my argument. JUst to make them all look like fools.
wow.. exactly wat i think just not in a smart way... i just think that people believe in god to explain how stuff was formed but other things also explain it like from a theory of monkey to human which we think was true... and now people stopped overlooking things like that and are now reconsidering all the theories made so far.
So yea, im sure the egg came first and not the stupid chicked >.<
The chicken is inside the egg. So it's both.
bo597
05-25-2009, 12:04 PM
niether something blew up and boom you got egg and chicken
niether something blew up and boom you got egg and chicken
If it none of them, they wouldn't be on Earth...
blondie
05-25-2009, 12:09 PM
People believe in god to explain how the universe was formed. But since the religion was invented, we've come up with the laws of motion, and other laws which pretty much proe that theory wrong. But they never listen to me. But soon i shal perfect my argument. JUst to make them all look like fools.
No you're not. Lol. People have had religion millenia ago. When one person is deluded, it's called insanity. When thousands of people are deluded, it's unfortunately called religion.
The chicken is inside the egg. So it's both.
Let's use this one, lol.
Villyer
05-25-2009, 12:38 PM
When one person is deluded, it's called insanity. When thousands of people are deluded, it's unfortunately called religion.
My friend once explained this as every religion is in its own little bubble, where everything makes sense. But when you look into a different bubble, everything is backwards and makes no sense. So you can never convinve anyone inside a different bubble otherwise.
The chicken is inside the egg. So it's both.
Technically, the inside the egg is an embryo, not a chicken.
@ kid below me.
Chicken was first one.
God made two chickens, woman and man, then you can guess what happened,
and they got an egg.
This isnt a thread about religion. its about evolution.
xXxduddevixXx
05-25-2009, 12:43 PM
Chicken was first one.
God made two chickens, woman and man, then you can guess what happened,
and they got an egg.
OmegaLemming
05-25-2009, 12:51 PM
Chicken!
The egg couldn't survive..
Villyer
05-25-2009, 12:52 PM
Chicken!
The egg couldn't survive..
The egg was raised by other chicken-like animals.
blondie
05-25-2009, 12:57 PM
No, I think the question isn't about the chicken. It's like, is the first thing ever an embryo or a living life form?
And I'm pretty sure it's the living life form.
Villyer
05-25-2009, 01:02 PM
No, I think the question isn't about the chicken. It's like, is the first thing ever an embryo or a living life form?
And I'm pretty sure it's the living life form.
I think it is about the chicken.
But if its not, then i would think the living creature came first.
IrishDragon1234
05-25-2009, 02:00 PM
Neither, there's no such thing as a chicken.
JoKeR
05-25-2009, 02:02 PM
Ive heard this before the answer is egg
Nitex1337
05-25-2009, 07:19 PM
Read the bible Its chicken.
PowerRanger
05-25-2009, 08:09 PM
Egg. Cuz what did the 1st chicken come from?
CheepS
05-25-2009, 08:28 PM
The chicken chose to be first.
:]
Wannabe
05-25-2009, 08:33 PM
Is this a chicken egg? or any egg?
This is exactly what I was thinking.
If its the chicken egg than the chicken..
But if any egg
The egg...
FusiouS
05-25-2009, 08:56 PM
Read the bible Its chicken.
don't bring religion into this D:
All evolution on why the egg came before the chicken.
Twilly
05-25-2009, 09:08 PM
The micro-organism that developed from electrons fueling energy, from nucleur fusion, which was caused by abundance of helium, which was caused by the Sun, caused by a nebula, caused by a solar system cracking, caused by age and abundance of hydrogen causing gas giant, caused by a former star, caused by collision, caused by galaxies evolving into ellipticals, which was caused by the big bang formation of massive energy from electrons, caused by conservation that was fabricated.
- Lmao, I lub you Ven. ;P
Oh, and Nitex, proof or GTFO this thread.
Can't believe this is still going.
BTW what the other dude said. Don't bring religion in this.
1. twilly will flame jesus's mother.
2. God is not real (to some people)
And today the teacher said none of us got it right because it is impossible to know which on came first.
Villyer
05-25-2009, 10:23 PM
Can't believe this is still going.
BTW what the other dude said. Don't bring religion in this.
1. twilly will flame jesus's mother.
2. God is not real (to some people)
And today the teacher said none of us got it right because it is impossible to know which on came first.
Your teacher is pathetic.
Leonardo
05-25-2009, 10:27 PM
It's egg.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_came_first_the_chicken_or_the_egg
Twilly
05-25-2009, 10:33 PM
It's egg.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Which_came_first_the_chicken_or_the_egg
Which came first, Ken or the egg?
Well, in that sense, I'd say Ken.
blondie
05-25-2009, 11:43 PM
Can't believe this is still going.
BTW what the other dude said. Don't bring religion in this.
1. twilly will flame jesus's mother.
2. God is not real (to some people)
And today the teacher said none of us got it right because it is impossible to know which on came first.
Your teacher is pretty retardeddddddd. If everyone thought like her, Thomas Edison would be the only man in history to ever have a lightbulb in his house.
It's a circle question and since circles have no starting point. (unlike a linear line)
Therefore there is no definite answer. However through evolution technically speaking it would have been the egg since the ability of chickens to give birth to young in eggs existed longer than the common definition of "chicken"
IrishDragon1234
05-26-2009, 04:51 PM
Did anyone honestly consider the idea that the answer may actually be both? Maybe some other bird gave birth to a mutated bird(chicken) and an egg at the same time.
FusiouS
05-26-2009, 04:53 PM
That my friend maybe physically impossible?
The answer can not be both.
IrishDragon1234
05-26-2009, 05:01 PM
That my friend maybe physically impossible?
The answer can not be both.
People said it was impossible for Paris Hilton to get any dumber. But then she came out with this quote:
I'm not going to get the swine flu because I don't eat pork.
Just goes to show, anything is possible.
FusiouS
05-26-2009, 05:04 PM
That's paris hilton. Anything stupid is possible for her :\
This is evolution where having a mutated bird(chicked) and an egg at the same time is impossible!
IrishDragon1234
05-26-2009, 05:09 PM
That's paris hilton. Anything stupid is possible for her :\
This is evolution where having a mutated bird(chicked) and an egg at the same time is impossible!
Exactly! Anything is possible from Paris Hilton! Maybe she went back in time and gave birth to the first chicken and the first egg at the same time.
FusiouS
05-26-2009, 05:10 PM
ok, let me rephrase myself. Anything is possible in this time century for her. Magical things or seriously impossible things do not count because there is no way she can do them.
Twilly
05-26-2009, 05:13 PM
Has anyone ever considered NEITHER. :]
FusiouS
05-26-2009, 05:14 PM
It can't be neither. That would mean that the chicken does not exist
IrishDragon1234
05-26-2009, 05:16 PM
I actually did consider neither! In one of my posts on the other page I suggested that the chicken does not actually exist.
Twilly
05-26-2009, 05:17 PM
It can't be neither. That would mean that the chicken does not exist
It's to my understanding that bacteria came long before the chickens. So did what is called multipilcation, longggg before eggs were layed.
So the answer would be what ever came before the chicken.
Killerrrrrr
05-26-2009, 05:33 PM
God created us all, therefore it was the chicken.
FusiouS
05-26-2009, 05:36 PM
But this is evolution in the works not religion. So you are wrong! FAIL!!!!!!!
Twilly
05-26-2009, 05:39 PM
God created us all, therefore it was the chicken.
I'm sick of you damn creationists coming in this thread. Ok? We get your silly little argument, it's nothing, it's crap. It has no back bone, it's just faith and beliefs, YOU CANNOT back up your creationism beliefs because all it is is FAITH. So, if you want to debate properly, get a back bone, get facts, get TRUTHS. Another thing, if you CANNOT prove that this omnipotent being made everything, THEN GTFO OF HERE.
Killerrrrrr
05-26-2009, 05:42 PM
I'm sick of you damn creationists coming in this thread. Ok? We get your silly little argument, it's nothing, it's crap. It has no back bone, it's just faith and beliefs, YOU CANNOT back up your creationism beliefs because all it is is FAITH. So, if you want to debate properly, get a back bone, get facts, get TRUTHS. Another thing, if you CANNOT prove that this omnipotent being made everything, THEN GTFO OF HERE.
I was hoping you would quote me.
Twilly
05-26-2009, 05:43 PM
I was hoping you would quote me.
Is that is? You just came here to troll?
I see....
Is that is? You just came here to troll?
I see....
To quote or not to quote
that is the question.
TheMuffinSniper
05-26-2009, 06:16 PM
Recently scientists have discovered egg shells dating back millions of years ago, therefore it was the cow.
SeasonalTNT
05-26-2009, 06:30 PM
Egg came first. The chances an egg surviving the Big Bang is far greater than the chances a chicken surviving it.
Lol.
No, I'm just kidding. There's no way the chicken could've come first. The egg was probably mutated by another animal; the chicken was probably the product of two different animals undergoing biotic fusion when they copulated.
And plus, if there even is some far greater being out there (ie. what you Catholics call God), I don't believe he would've trusted the chicken (because it's CHICKEN). He probably created the egg for some other animal to protect, or hid the egg somewhere.
IrishDragon1234
05-26-2009, 07:37 PM
Your not funny
lol yes he is.
lol yes he is.
Recently scientists have discovered egg shells dating back millions of years ago, therefore it was the cow.
Yes I'm sure your sense of humor are much the same. Which is why your the most funny and not hated guy on pawn.
IrishDragon1234
05-26-2009, 07:45 PM
Yes I'm sure your sense of humor are much the same. Which is why your the most funny and not hated guy on pawn.
Agreed, I am the finniest and least hated guy on pawn.
Oh and btw CplCow was wrong. It is in fact the dragon that gave birth to both the chicken and the egg at the same time.
Blackrulez
05-26-2009, 10:27 PM
I gave birth to the dragon.. through my male reproductive organ?
blondie
05-27-2009, 12:28 AM
Guys, it's not that important. How is there 16 pages of chicken, egg, chicken, egg.
lostvoid
05-27-2009, 01:57 AM
Your teacher's answer answered your teacher's question. What did I do before I sang just now? Quick and easy answer: impossible [for you] to know (unless I tell you.) In my opinion, your teacher owes the entire class a reward.
Religion should never be brought into any debate for the following reason: Religion is often used to determine causality based upon belief (no proof, without proof) whereas science relies upon actuality (proof).
'God' may have made everything, but he also gave everything a [cause and effect] reason for existing. The 'God argument' relies upon too many ignorances and assumptions [such as 'God' poofing everything - including chickens - into existence before the first chicken egg was birthed; such as 'God' not creating a history for all things in existence.]
Religion is dumb when used by the dumb for dumb reasons [such as when trying to prove a theory.] This isn't a flame, this is a truth. Many people who believe in [G]god[s]/[G]goddess[es] are intelligent enough to understand the previous statements. They are also intelligent enough to avoid relying upon 'God arguments'.
Eggs? Pft, they didn't come first. The orange [juice] did. At least for my breakfast.
maggerz
05-27-2009, 02:51 AM
Your teacher's answer answered your teacher's question. What did I do before I sang just now? Quick and easy answer: impossible [for you] to know (unless I tell you.) In my opinion, your teacher owes the entire class a reward.
Religion should never be brought into any debate for the following reason: Religion is often used to determine causality based upon belief (no proof, without proof) whereas science relies upon actuality (proof).
'God' may have made everything, but he also gave everything a [cause and effect] reason for existing. The 'God argument' relies upon too many ignorances and assumptions [such as 'God' poofing everything - including chickens - into existence before the first chicken egg was birthed; such as 'God' not creating a history for all things in existence.]
Religion is dumb when used by the dumb for dumb reasons [such as when trying to prove a theory.] This isn't a flame, this is a truth. Many people who believe in [G]god[s]/[G]goddess[es] are intelligent enough to understand the previous statements. They are also intelligent enough to avoid relying upon 'God arguments'.
Eggs? Pft, they didn't come first. The orange [juice] did. At least for my breakfast.
My head hurts.
Villyer
05-27-2009, 06:46 PM
Your teacher's answer answered your teacher's question. What did I do before I sang just now? Quick and easy answer: impossible [for you] to know (unless I tell you.) In my opinion, your teacher owes the entire class a reward.
Religion should never be brought into any debate for the following reason: Religion is often used to determine causality based upon belief (no proof, without proof) whereas science relies upon actuality (proof).
'God' may have made everything, but he also gave everything a [cause and effect] reason for existing. The 'God argument' relies upon too many ignorances and assumptions [such as 'God' poofing everything - including chickens - into existence before the first chicken egg was birthed; such as 'God' not creating a history for all things in existence.]
Religion is dumb when used by the dumb for dumb reasons [such as when trying to prove a theory.] This isn't a flame, this is a truth. Many people who believe in [G]god[s]/[G]goddess[es] are intelligent enough to understand the previous statements. They are also intelligent enough to avoid relying upon 'God arguments'.
Eggs? Pft, they didn't come first. The orange [juice] did. At least for my breakfast.
Well stated.
And i lol'd at that last sentence >_<
shank3r
05-27-2009, 07:17 PM
egg here are the facts that prove this:
birds evolved from pterodactails witch laid eggs some of those eggs mutated into that are now chickens so what we call the chicken egg had to be first.
other peoples facts and why they dont work:
creationism: sceintests have proven evalution if they change there mind then i will beleive them i trust smart people more then crazy preachers that you see on the religon channel.
egg cant raise itself: what about turtles? they leave there young when there eggs. and they live and raise them selves. sure chicks cant do it them selfs but this chicken could be different then the chicken we know today. like neandrathals and humans.
if you can prove these wrong il give you 10000 dollars just give me your credit card number. jk
killjoy88
05-27-2009, 07:53 PM
The chicken came first
IrishDragon1234
05-27-2009, 09:39 PM
In all honesty, chicken.
Does an egg have to come from a chicken, yes.
Does a chicken have to come from an egg? Not really. The early chicken's ancestors could have started as giving birth directly and changed to laying eggs down along the line of evolution.
oh and btw, christianity does NOT dismiss the possibility of evolution. It always makes me curious as to why people always think it does. Guess its just widespread literalism.
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