Becoming afraid of Barack Obama

[IrishDragon1234]

I don't really agree with Obama on most issues. However the way so many people seem to be supporting him is making me genuinely fear for the country.

I understand that his Stimulus Package was a massively wasteful failure. It threw incredible amounts of tax money to all sorts of useless projects that were said to "kick-start the economy". But the way hes using his power in wasteful ways is not what concerns me most. Its the way people are supporting him so much.

All throughout global history you see what happens when a political leader gains too much support from their citizens. Hitler, Mussolini, Napoleon, Stalin, and almost every other tyrant in history. They were all excellent speakers and all had the majority of their citizens follow and support them in an almost worship-like fashon while trying to persecute anyone who disagreed and all the while without having any real understanding of what their leaders were going to do. Remind you of somebody?

So yeah. So many people are over-supportive of Obama. Its one thing when you think hes a good president, that's fine. I disagree, but there's nothing wrong with it. But when people are writing whole songs about him, when people genuinely think that his election marked a turning point in human civilization, when so many people agree that it is "treasonous" to not support him, that's when you have a major problem. The same problem that occurred with Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, etc.

The thing I'm scared of is that people support him so much that they will still agree with him no matter what he says. If Obama were to come out with a statement that all anti-abortion and pro-gun-rights activists were to be arrested and jailed, I think that most people would support him. The same thing happened with Hitler. He was a great speak and people loved him so much and had so much blind support for him, that when he called for the extermination of Jews people just went right along with their beloved leader and whatever he said.

I think this would be more likely to occur in modern America than in Hitler's Germany because our society puts so much emphisis on being normal and fitting in with everyone else.

I have to go to bed, I'll add more in the morning. G'night.

[GhettoFish]

Very well spoken.

I do not agree with Obama at all.

He increased support for countries such as Pakistan, Afghanistan and Israel.

All three have nukes.

Bet he is scared.

And Im a Pakistani too

[deadstar64]

ok guys look im not saying that yall dont have a right to an opinion but when you say things like above it is just kinda sad you know. the stimulus package was supposed to help and it might not be totally done yet. another good thing about obama as pres is that obama got the gas from 5.15$ down to 1.50$ though he does need to watch it cause its creepin back up. and also, saying that people writing songs about obama is "bad" is kinda dumb just think about you're raisin mccain. dont critisize obama just yet it takes more that 100 days to fix the country. dont fear it couldnt get much worse than bush had it. please dont post these things i know its general disscusion but post these on a political site ok? mod lock this please?

[ChangE]

Um i have alot of things to say but im going to TRY so sum it up. Why should a mod lock this? Obama is the cause of 2012 people are now saying and I totaly support it. Obama made gas go down WOHOO thats all he did. Obama is very scary as our president and people are liking him because he is getting money into the poor people so they can spend it back on liquor! I really dislike Obama in the presidential seat right now.. And the true thing is Obama may look great on tv but in realife he acts then acts again then acts.. then thinks what he has done then MAY say sorry then the US loves him again because he admited to one of his 100 mistakes. Obama is really getting creepy and to tell the truth if this gets any worse..Idk what will happen but it isn't good. Think about the recent threat ( that isn't that recent ) about Korea.. " We can't do anything at the moment " That means we can't do nothing about nukes or bombs going off in the mid-west or Alaska. Don't lock this i can't wait to see what people say. Supports.

[KiteRider]

Obama was clearly the better choice over McCain. Especially with Palin behind him.

But I seriously doubt people would be that dense to follow Obama on controversial issues without second guessing themselves.

@ Irish
If you look at the greatly supported presidents in America, they've done great things...at least for America
Franklin Delano Roosevelt: The New Deal, first and second 100 days
John F Kennedy: Berlin Speech, Peace Corps, Cuban Missile Crisis
Teddy Roosevelt: Fair Deal
Richard Nixon: pulling America out of Vietnam. Even with Watergate, he was a foreign policy genius.


but i agree woth deadstar, Obama shouldn't be judged on his first hundred days. It took FDR until WW2 to truely kickstart America out of the Great Depression, even with his New Deal plans.
JFK with the Bay of Pigs, an incident which disgraced the newly sworn-in president.


We've yet to seen Barack's true colors. If people throw their blind support behind a well-planned idea, it'll work out well.

[vSkyzv]

Your argument is flawed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilt_by_association

kbaithnx

[blondie]

I don't really keep up with this very closely. But I see a thousand of these kind of threads and they always say 'oh, this was wrong' or 'this was unneeded.' It's not really a simple solution. It's not an obvious answer that anyone could do.

First opinion: I'm very happy he was chosen over Hilary.
Second Opinion: He's doing fine. We're never going to have a perfect government. Just let the economy crash.

[lilcuriousdude7]

i understand the meaning of what you are saying that though it is good to belive in the person we elected we still shouldn't put all of our faith in trust in him. I actually like Obama but i can't just go with everything he says whether it be good or bad just because its Obama. Everyone should actually find out what issues they are concerned of and get better understanding of it so people can fairly judge Obama. i think overall it is just the lack of intelligence the American people have about the issues at hand.

[IrishDragon1234]

ok guys look im not saying that yall dont have a right to an opinion but when you say things like above it is just kinda sad you know. the stimulus package was supposed to help and it might not be totally done yet. another good thing about obama as pres is that obama got the gas from 5.15$ down to 1.50$ though he does need to watch it cause its creepin back up. and also, saying that people writing songs about obama is "bad" is kinda dumb just think about you're raisin mccain. dont critisize obama just yet it takes more that 100 days to fix the country. dont fear it couldnt get much worse than bush had it. please dont post these things i know its general disscusion but post these on a political site ok? mod lock this please?

-Its not sad, its logical thinking.
-Of course the stimulus package was supposed to help. But its not helping. All it really did was throw wasted money at endless amounts of useless projects and triple our national deficit.
-He did not get gas down from $5.15 to $1.50. That happened naturally due to demand for gas going down.Just because it happened while he was in office doesn't mean it was done by him...
-People writing songs about him is a bad sign. People never did that in this way with any of our other presidents. But do you know who did get songs written about him by his citizens? Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini. If you don't know who they are then look it up in your history textbook or on google.
-I have no clue what you mean by "raisin mccain".
-"It takes awhile for things to work" is what people always say. It doesn't take that long for signs of improvement to show. And if McCain had been elected and hadn't gotten the economy into super-good order by now you'd be criticizing him.
-Why lock? It doesn't break any rules. There's no reason to lock it...

[Shadowreaver]

Writing songs is bs and has nothing to do with past tyrants.
The only reasons Stalin had songs is because he censorship the press along with his cult of personalities
allowing only good stuffs to be written about the Soviet Union and Stalin being a hero.

Similar thing with Hitler as he was a nationalist and promised the people to get them out of the Great Depression.

[Pochitos]

He's much better than McCain. You can't argue with that.

[luka102]

He's much better than McCain. You can't argue with that.

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[Twilly]

The only thing I've ever agreed with him is (which I really don't care who's president) was not to teach intelligent design in schools, nor is it a science.

[blondie]

He's much better than McCain. You can't argue with that.
That's not even an argument. That's just a random opinion.

[Pochitos]

Yay, you have a brain!!! (not sarcasm)

You get a whole package of cookies!!

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[Mario99880]

I have no biased against him.

The only thing that would make me waver on support for him if he institutes a draft :/. That is something I would not want at all due to the fact im almost 18.

If you would like to find out more on Barack Obama read the recent issue of Newsweek they just did a huge 6 page interview with Barack. I think we will have to just wait and see.

[IrishDragon1234]

I'm not saying that I think hes definitely going to go Hitler on us. I'm saying that bad things can easily happen when political leaders get too much support. Hes not likely to end up screwing up the constitution, but hes more likely to do so than any of our other presidents.

I think the only thing that would confirm my fears would be if he succeeds in passing this Assault Weapons Ban that he said he wants to pass. That would scare me smexless.

[OmegaLemming]

Out of all the stuff you said, I really just agree that people are a wee bit too supportive of everything Obama does.

It seems like he could run to the bathroom and they'd cheer because he successfully relieved himself.. way too overbearing.

[TopHatMan]

It's because him and all other demoidiots are trying to make america social communist.
Then again his vice p is retarded, so were pretty much screwed.

[IrishDragon1234]

It's because him and all other demoidiots are trying to make america social communist.
Then again his vice p is retarded, so were pretty much screwed.

lol yeah. When your VP casually gives away to a bunch of dinner friends the classified location of a top secret underground nuclear fallout shelter, that's not a good sign:p

[dasbinich]

You cant compare Obama with Hitler. At hitler´s time the mightiest man in the state was an old hero of war ( Paul from Hindenburg), who has only chosen because of his popularity. In the end he was so old that he even had no idea about what he was doing. At Hitlers time the Germans didn´t wanted democracy, they wanted a system a Hitler had used. And Hitler was always telling his aims. In 1918 he said that he wanted to make war with the (hated) new eastern states, wanted to pull the (hated) Jews out of the country and off course he was talking about change. The bad thing is that Hitler just did what many people wanted....
Obama is talking about change ,too, but the conditions are different. People are tired of war and they see that they are hated in many other states and what damage they caused. Americas potential enemys are armed and strong and they have support from their people and other countrys. Obama will not do a mistake.

[IrishDragon1234]

You cant compare Obama with Hitler. At hitler´s time the mightiest man in the state was an old hero of war ( Paul from Hindenburg), who has only chosen because of his popularity. In the end he was so old that he even had no idea about what he was doing. At Hitlers time the Germans didn´t wanted democracy, they wanted a system a Hitler had used. And Hitler was always telling his aims. In 1918 he said that he wanted to make war with the (hated) new eastern states, wanted to pull the (hated) Jews out of the country and off course he was talking about change. The bad thing is that Hitler just did what many people wanted....
Obama is talking about change ,too, but the conditions are different. People are tired of war and they see that they are hated in many other states and what damage they caused. Americas potential enemys are armed and strong and they have support from their people and other countrys. Obama will not do a mistake.

Please stop taking my words out of context. I'm not saying that Obama is like Hitler. I'm saying that Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini are examples of what happens when a single political leader gets too much popular support from their country.

I'm not suggesting that Obama is going to bring around another holocaust or something. I'm just saying that bad things could happen due to him having too much popular support.

[deadstar64]

Um i have alot of things to say but im going to TRY so sum it up. Why should a mod lock this? Obama is the cause of 2012 people are now saying and I totaly support it. Obama made gas go down WOHOO thats all he did. Obama is very scary as our president and people are liking him because he is getting money into the poor people so they can spend it back on liquor! I really dislike Obama in the presidential seat right now.. And the true thing is Obama may look great on tv but in realife he acts then acts again then acts.. then thinks what he has done then MAY say sorry then the US loves him again because he admited to one of his 100 mistakes. Obama is really getting creepy and to tell the truth if this gets any worse..Idk what will happen but it isn't good. Think about the recent threat ( that isn't that recent ) about Korea.. " We can't do anything at the moment " That means we can't do nothing about nukes or bombs going off in the mid-west or Alaska. Don't lock this i can't wait to see what people say. Supports.
well that made perfect sense obviously obama is the cause of something that would have happened anyway. just because he is in office doesnt mean that just made it so 2012 would happen. and another thing if you think obama is giving money to the poor just so they can spend it back on booze you're wrong thats not true that every poor person is going to buy beer and stuff as soon as they get money. there are plenty of poor people who dont drink beer or dont smoke and plus for all the middle-lower class people its really hard for them atm because of the econemy that YOU'RE ******* pres let happen.

-Its not sad, its logical thinking.
-Of course the stimulus package was supposed to help. But its not helping. All it really did was throw wasted money at endless amounts of useless projects and triple our national deficit.
-He did not get gas down from $5.15 to $1.50. That happened naturally due to demand for gas going down.Just because it happened while he was in office doesn't mean it was done by him...
-People writing songs about him is a bad sign. People never did that in this way with any of our other presidents. But do you know who did get songs written about him by his citizens? Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini. If you don't know who they are then look it up in your history textbook or on google.
-I have no clue what you mean by "raisin mccain".
-"It takes awhile for things to work" is what people always say. It doesn't take that long for signs of improvement to show. And if McCain had been elected and hadn't gotten the economy into super-good order by now you'd be criticizing him.
-Why lock? It doesn't break any rules. There's no reason to lock it... are you kidding me? just because a song is writting about someone doesnt mean its a bad sign. thats like saying someone writting a song for someone they love means that person will be a dictator. thats kinda what you're saying. and raisin mccain was a song writtin about him in the election. and you're damn right if mccain was pres i would critisize him but i would wait to see how he was doing before that i wouldnt wait 100 days and then go, "hes evil he sucks hes the anti christ(stuff i heard bout obama.)" you need to wait for about 1-2 years and if nothing has changed yea then ill critisize a little too. but not right off the bat dude.

[Soul]

lol yeah. When your VP casually gives away to a bunch of dinner friends the classified location of a top secret underground nuclear fallout shelter, that's not a good sign:p

Mind you, palin would probably have given them a gift wrapped nuke.

[IrishDragon1234]

are you kidding me? just because a song is writting about someone doesnt mean its a bad sign. thats like saying someone writting a song for someone they love means that person will be a dictator. thats kinda what you're saying. and raisin mccain was a song writtin about him in the election. and you're damn right if mccain was pres i would critisize him but i would wait to see how he was doing before that i wouldnt wait 100 days and then go, "hes evil he sucks hes the anti christ(stuff i heard bout obama.)" you need to wait for about 1-2 years and if nothing has changed yea then ill critisize a little too. but not right off the bat dude.

... Ok, maybe I worded it incorrectly. What I mean is that it shows the way that people are supporting him. A lot more people than you may think are viewing Obama in a manner that they would view a popular celebrity rather than a politician. And when too many people support a single politician too much, bad things can happen. Similar to the celebrity-like view most people in Germany held for Hitler and how most people in Russia felt about Stalin.

For the 2nd or 3rd time, I'm NOT trying to suggest that all of this means that Obama will be the next big genocidal dictator! I'm not saying that Obama would likely take advantage of the blind way people are supporting him, I'm saying that he could do very bad things if he realized it and decided to take advantage of it.

Its like a random stranger holding the detonator to a bunch of nukes planted in highly populated countries. I doubt he would use it, but he could do terrible things with it if he would be willing to do so.

Obama has an incredible influence over the minds of the majority of the country right now. I don't think even he realizes how much that means. I'm not saying that he would, but if he were to do something terrible like invade and take over Canada or something than people would support him.



NOBODY SAY THAT I'M SUGGESTING THIS WILL HAPPEN!!! People can stop taking my words out of context now tyvm...