View Full Version : For people that think Heavy is OP'ed
crasher6
05-16-2009, 09:45 PM
Note* I very rarely use this class so yeah.
All right,since some people can't understand this, it's time to verbally beat some sense into your thick skulls. I've been saying this for years now. Almost NOTHING is overpowered.
I see sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooo many people complaining about the Heavy class that I'm starting to want to jump through their screen and backhand him/her.
"Heavy has too much health!"
The heavy is supposed to be an offensive class, thus the high ammount of health. This is NOT overpowered, it's a part of the damned game. It's SOOOOOOOO freaking easy to kill one of these it's not even funny. Why not stop going lone wolf and actually use teamwork against one? Two people alone could bring one down within 3 seconds. Hell, I've brought down a heavy at full health just using the Recon's primary gun.
If THAT isn't easy, I don't know what is.
"Only "noobs" use the heavy class."
Ok yeah, someone is a "noob" for using something that's an essintial part of the game. Just because they use a class that you suck at fighting means this and that.
Grow up.
Anyone can use ANYTHING they want to that's part of the damn game.
So, what I'm trying to say is that just because you have trouble beating a certain class doesn't mean you should go around spurting "THIS IS OVERPOWERED!" from your mouth/fingers.
The only thing that was overpowered from what I've seen, was the Scout class. I watched a video of it and I already knew. Uber damage + shooting from behind walls = DEFINETLY overpowered. >_>"
Don't waste your time flaming me because I really don't care.
MaxPliny
05-16-2009, 09:51 PM
agreed, crasher. heavy is only not fun and challenging to play with and against when an actual noob is using it, which, to be honest, occurs rarely. Right on.
StrikiNinja
05-16-2009, 09:55 PM
I believe people only say the heavy is overpowered mainly because it looks intimidating.
:p
But, this is just my opinion.
crasher6
05-16-2009, 09:57 PM
I believe people only say the heavy is overpowered mainly because it looks intimidating.
:p
But, this is just my opinion.
....... The mole on my right hip is more intimidating than a heavy. xD
Calisniper13
05-16-2009, 10:08 PM
I've said this since beta.
woohoo
05-17-2009, 12:20 AM
First off who cares about whether it'soverpowered or not. It's in the game and anyone can use it. Second, I doubt insulting people will make them change their minds. Third, we all know heavy can be taken down by any class if you use that pink thing inbetween your ears even though it may be hard.
Try giving some actual reasons why you think it isn't overpowered instead of just yelling about what people say. Also, you say that it's okay because it's an offensive class but what about then it's camping?
crasher6
05-17-2009, 08:24 AM
First off who cares about whether it'soverpowered or not. It's in the game and anyone can use it. Second, I doubt insulting people will make them change their minds. Third, we all know heavy can be taken down by any class if you use that pink thing inbetween your ears even though it may be hard.
Try giving some actual reasons why you think it isn't overpowered instead of just yelling about what people say. Also, you say that it's okay because it's an offensive class but what about then it's camping?
Easy, choose Assault and throw in some damn grenades.
Parma
05-17-2009, 08:36 AM
Don't get me wrong you brought up a lot of good arguments.
But...
True Heavy overall isn't that overpowered but a Heavy of High Ground or Camping can be the most powerful thing in the entire game.
Yes i know its a strategy but overall heavy one has one reason to even switch to its secondary gun. That is other heavies.
Look, you can whine, complain, bring up facts about it not being overpowered but seriously its not that its overpowered its the fact it is the most overall simplistic and easy class to use. That is why it is regarded as the noob class.
zagert
05-17-2009, 09:57 AM
Easy, choose Assault and throw in some damn grenades.
or be a guard with a lancer behind you
Souless
05-17-2009, 10:24 AM
Heavy sucks. You can easily kill it. But when theres a 4 vs 4 and one team is all recon and the other is all heavy. We have a problem.
chinaboy
05-17-2009, 11:17 AM
the heavy is so much more balanced now. It used to do a lot more damage but shoot slower, can kill other heavys in 4 melees and used to run as fast as meduim armor like assault and medics
Mario99880
05-17-2009, 01:31 PM
Heavy sucks. You can easily kill it. But when theres a 4 vs 4 and one team is all recon and the other is all heavy. We have a problem.
^^^^ This exactly
PrettyTony
05-17-2009, 02:05 PM
Heavy sucks. You can easily kill it. But when theres a 4 vs 4 and one team is all recon and the other is all heavy. We have a problem.
yes thats why you need to change your strategy and not mass recon
and i'am sick of clan wars in the beginning people spam no heavy or guard.. then 3 minutes into the game wen you capture a flag they all mass heavy.. im sick of fake rules in the beginning of the game
I DECLARE NO MO RULES!!
LeLoi
05-17-2009, 02:10 PM
eggsactly.
shank3r
05-17-2009, 02:32 PM
still the only class the heavy loses 2 1v1 is lancer unless u are realy good and the heavy is a noob complaining about it aint going to fix it though. learn 2 beat it with assult support and mauler(very possible) and u are above heavy noobs. its very easy 2 beat a heavy with a flash bang and some cover and a mauler crit takes care of them.
PrettyTony
05-17-2009, 02:35 PM
still the only class the heavy loses 2 1v1 is lancer unless u are realy good and the heavy is a noob complaining about it aint going to fix it though. learn 2 beat it with assult support and mauler(very possible) and u are above heavy noobs. its very easy 2 beat a heavy with a flash bang and some cover and a mauler crit takes care of them.
heavy vs lancer i only have problems if lancer is high ground then i obviously lose..
but in my experiences id say 70% id beat a lancer as a heavy
lancer shot is too small wen your strafing
KrazyMonkey321
05-17-2009, 03:03 PM
well, heavy is not overpowered. the is perfect balance.
Heavy > Recon
Recon > Lancer
Lancer > Heavy
now, i do not see anything wrong. if there is a over-powered class, it is the Assault. and ownz just about anything. that is why it is the Main Class people use. but no, the heavy is not overpowered. o.k., it might be hard to kill when it is on higher ground or has a medic with it or something. but still, there is one word to solve that problem. Lancer. and if you can not do it, there are 2 words. You Suck. it is mostly about skill, and if u can not kill 1 heavy, then you must seriously suck.
woohoo
05-17-2009, 03:11 PM
Heavies aren't little.
KrazyMonkey321
05-17-2009, 03:15 PM
Heavies aren't little.
lol, ok, 1 big heavy by itself then?
DeathX69
05-17-2009, 03:22 PM
heavys are easy to kill i took down 2 heavys with assualt and 5 heavys with recon with knife
Note* I very rarely use this class so yeah.
All right,since some people can't understand this, it's time to verbally beat some sense into your thick skulls. I've been saying this for years now. Almost NOTHING is overpowered.
I see sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooo many people complaining about the Heavy class that I'm starting to want to jump through their screen and backhand him/her.
"Heavy has too much health!"
The heavy is supposed to be an offensive class, thus the high ammount of health. This is NOT overpowered, it's a part of the damned game. It's SOOOOOOOO freaking easy to kill one of these it's not even funny. Why not stop going lone wolf and actually use teamwork against one? Two people alone could bring one down within 3 seconds. Hell, I've brought down a heavy at full health just using the Recon's primary gun.
If THAT isn't easy, I don't know what is.
"Only "noobs" use the heavy class."
Ok yeah, someone is a "noob" for using something that's an essintial part of the game. Just because they use a class that you suck at fighting means this and that.
Grow up.
Anyone can use ANYTHING they want to that's part of the damn game.
So, what I'm trying to say is that just because you have trouble beating a certain class doesn't mean you should go around spurting "THIS IS OVERPOWERED!" from your mouth/fingers.
The only thing that was overpowered from what I've seen, was the Scout class. I watched a video of it and I already knew. Uber damage + shooting from behind walls = DEFINETLY overpowered. >_>"
Don't waste your time flaming me because I really don't care.
Dude you should be a God, this rant hopefully pounded some sense into those idiots that dislike the Heavy.
I mean come on, you have a class called the Lancer. And its able to kill the heavy in 2 shots I REPEAT 2 SHOTS! And i for one am a Lancer pro. So you all should get like me, and start using the lancer more often.
IrishDragon1234
05-17-2009, 09:36 PM
I think people who often use recon are the ones most annoyed by it. Because as long as the Heavy is paying attention to the game and knows how to press the f key, then it would take 15 Recons minimum when on equal ground to kill 1 Heavy. Because the minigun kills a recon VERY quickly and the Recon's guns do very little if the fight is at long range, and Knifing is out of the question because the Heavy's melee does a 1-hit-KO on Recons 100% of the time even if poorly aimed.
So if you have a Heavy guarding inside the zone in Epic Assaults, then any recon has no chance of taking the zone except for hoping that the Heavy-user if AFK.
Seduce
05-17-2009, 09:43 PM
Get a lancer or guardian and you've killed heavy with ease.
Even if it is a heavy pro.
Or an assault pro can easily take down a heavy, even two.
Xenocide
05-17-2009, 09:54 PM
Note* I very rarely use this class so yeah.
All right,since some people can't understand this, it's time to verbally beat some sense into your thick skulls. I've been saying this for years now. Almost NOTHING is overpowered.
I see sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooo many people complaining about the Heavy class that I'm starting to want to jump through their screen and backhand him/her.
"Heavy has too much health!"
The heavy is supposed to be an offensive class, thus the high ammount of health. This is NOT overpowered, it's a part of the damned game. It's SOOOOOOOO freaking easy to kill one of these it's not even funny. Why not stop going lone wolf and actually use teamwork against one? Two people alone could bring one down within 3 seconds. Hell, I've brought down a heavy at full health just using the Recon's primary gun.
If THAT isn't easy, I don't know what is.
"Only "noobs" use the heavy class."
Ok yeah, someone is a "noob" for using something that's an essintial part of the game. Just because they use a class that you suck at fighting means this and that.
Grow up.
Anyone can use ANYTHING they want to that's part of the damn game.
So, what I'm trying to say is that just because you have trouble beating a certain class doesn't mean you should go around spurting "THIS IS OVERPOWERED!" from your mouth/fingers.
The only thing that was overpowered from what I've seen, was the Scout class. I watched a video of it and I already knew. Uber damage + shooting from behind walls = DEFINETLY overpowered. >_>"
Don't waste your time flaming me because I really don't care.
Yea i always was "I HATE U DAMN HEAVYS!!!!!" when i am mad lol but i think it's just a class and all classes 100 health lol
SneaK
05-17-2009, 10:01 PM
Note* I very rarely use this class so yeah.
All right,since some people can't understand this, it's time to verbally beat some sense into your thick skulls. I've been saying this for years now. Almost NOTHING is overpowered.
I see sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooo many people complaining about the Heavy class that I'm starting to want to jump through their screen and backhand him/her.
"Heavy has too much health!"
The heavy is supposed to be an offensive class, thus the high ammount of health. This is NOT overpowered, it's a part of the damned game. It's SOOOOOOOO freaking easy to kill one of these it's not even funny. Why not stop going lone wolf and actually use teamwork against one? Two people alone could bring one down within 3 seconds. Hell, I've brought down a heavy at full health just using the Recon's primary gun.
If THAT isn't easy, I don't know what is.
"Only "noobs" use the heavy class."
Ok yeah, someone is a "noob" for using something that's an essintial part of the game. Just because they use a class that you suck at fighting means this and that.
Grow up.
Anyone can use ANYTHING they want to that's part of the damn game.
So, what I'm trying to say is that just because you have trouble beating a certain class doesn't mean you should go around spurting "THIS IS OVERPOWERED!" from your mouth/fingers.
The only thing that was overpowered from what I've seen, was the Scout class. I watched a video of it and I already knew. Uber damage + shooting from behind walls = DEFINETLY overpowered. >_>"
Don't waste your time flaming me because I really don't care.
Finally someone posts something like this!!! Maybe this will get all the noobs to shut up about heavies. Now about using shotguns on PG.... :D
PawnMobilizer
05-17-2009, 10:13 PM
Dude you should be a God, this rant hopefully pounded some sense into those idiots that dislike the Heavy.
I mean come on, you have a class called the Lancer. And its able to kill the heavy in 2 shots I REPEAT 2 SHOTS! And i for one am a Lancer pro. So you all should get like me, and start using the lancer more often.
If he's a god just for this little bit of Heavy Rant that is 25.5% of what I can think of, then if I posted a thread about this, I would be a God Overlord!:D
But I'm not posting a thread about the same stuff = spamming
Leonardo
05-17-2009, 10:16 PM
Heavy isn't overpowred, Guard is.
Guard can own Heavy.
Lancer can own Heavy.
Assault can own Heavy.
Heavy can own Recon.
Heavy can own Mauler?!
Heavy can own Support (unless not in close combat).
Guard in the other hand can own Heavy, so as Lancer, with shield up.
jfella91
05-17-2009, 10:41 PM
OP'ed = Not an acronym for overpowered.
Anyways, I know what you're saying, but heavy generally is used by young players or players who get stressed in situations where they don't know what to do, therefore making it a noob class, however, out of courtesy, no one should say anything, just frown upon the players who use heavy. Like the p90 and shotgun in Pawn.
brohana
05-17-2009, 10:46 PM
Uber damage + shooting from behind walls = DEFINETLY overpowered. >_>"
If couldnt shoot from behind walls
Back in beta map making was different and you could set walls at a certain height.
You could make it so you can shoot over one with any class.
And the scout does the same damage as the lancer.
KrazyMonkey321
05-17-2009, 10:49 PM
5 heavys with recon with knife
wtf? no, lies. impossible, they all had full life and u killed them with knife? yeah right. now if u mean before when u could knife heavy, then, u have to be pro, but after update... no..
Royal
05-17-2009, 11:07 PM
Its because heavy is the best offensive class, people think its overpowered because of that. People also think guard is overpowered because its the best defensive.
http://i42.tinypic.com/33l1d20.png
Don't get me wrong you brought up a lot of good arguments.
But...
True Heavy overall isn't that overpowered but a Heavy of High Ground or Camping can be the most powerful thing in the entire game.
Yes i know its a strategy but overall heavy one has one reason to even switch to its secondary gun. That is other heavies.
Look, you can whine, complain, bring up facts about it not being overpowered but seriously its not that its overpowered its the fact it is the most overall simplistic and easy class to use. That is why it is regarded as the noob class.
This is Perfectly true.
The Heavy is just hard to stop when camping
so on so on.
But People need too find a way to kill heavys when camping
I dont know most ways cause Im not good at PT.
T15M21
05-18-2009, 01:09 AM
In early beta i knifed 10 heavys. That was so fun :rolleyes:
crasher6
05-18-2009, 07:55 AM
This is Perfectly true.
The Heavy is just hard to stop when camping
so on so on.
But People need too find a way to kill heavys when camping
I dont know most ways cause Im not good at PT.
The solution to camping heavies is simple.
Grenades.
PlazmaZ5
05-18-2009, 08:10 AM
Don't get me wrong you brought up a lot of good arguments.
But...
True Heavy overall isn't that overpowered but a Heavy of High Ground or Camping can be the most powerful thing in the entire game.
Yes i know its a strategy but overall heavy one has one reason to even switch to its secondary gun. That is other heavies.
Look, you can whine, complain, bring up facts about it not being overpowered but seriously its not that its overpowered its the fact it is the most overall simplistic and easy class to use. That is why it is regarded as the noob class.
i agree its a very noobish tactic and when most of the other is playing as heavies hence the term heavy noobs
Xenocide
05-18-2009, 08:31 AM
well, heavy is not overpowered. the is perfect balance.
Heavy > Recon
Recon > Lancer
Lancer > Heavy
now, i do not see anything wrong. if there is a over-powered class, it is the Assault. and ownz just about anything. that is why it is the Main Class people use. but no, the heavy is not overpowered. o.k., it might be hard to kill when it is on higher ground or has a medic with it or something. but still, there is one word to solve that problem. Lancer. and if you can not do it, there are 2 words. You Suck. it is mostly about skill, and if u can not kill 1 heavy, then you must seriously suck.
It's true :D very true :D
Its because heavy is the best offensive class, people think its overpowered because of that. People also think guard is overpowered because its the best defensive.
http://i42.tinypic.com/33l1d20.png
Heavy Nub :O
crasher6
05-18-2009, 10:17 AM
Hm...... not as many flames as I thought there would be. o_o"
IrishDragon1234
05-18-2009, 03:06 PM
Just use a Guard for camping Heavies. Your going to fail the first t9ime of course because he will use his 'nades. But after hes out of them then you can go right up to him easy.
Seduce
05-18-2009, 04:24 PM
Stop complaining about heavies.
Blank knows what he's doing.
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