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Hey guys, 420 here;
For those of you confused by the thread name, it's what your computer runs on.
If you simply still do not know, look at my below at what I say.
Here is mine;
My laptop;
Yes it's crappy, but it's mainly for at school use. My PC is better ;)
# Intel Pentium M 750 (1.86GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 533MHz FSB)
# 14.0" SXGA (1400 x 1050) display
# 60GB, 7200RPM Hard Drive
# 512MB DDR2 SDRAM
# CD-RW/DVD-RW (CD 24x Read, 16x Write) (DVD 3x Read, 2x Write)
Meh.
Here's my PC :>D
Systemax X58 Performance Gamer PC - Intel Core i7 920 2.66ghz, 12GB Corsair DDR3, 1TB, DVDRW, (2) 9800GT SLI, 650W, Vista Home Premium 64
1TB of storage is for the win really.
skarm
05-12-2009, 01:03 AM
sig
10quadcores
JoHnPoGi
05-12-2009, 03:48 AM
Woah
i cant even spell intel.
sig
10quadcores
Very nice.
Woah
i cant even spell intel.
Uhhh???
Lol
atirox
05-12-2009, 02:48 PM
Okay, the specs of my two computers.
Toshiba Satellite M70 (PSM73C-CL100E)
* Intel Celeron M 380 (Dothan, 90 nm, 1.6 GHz, 1 MB L2, 100 MHz Quad-pumped FSB)
* ATI Radeon Xpress 200M for Intel, GPU based off of X300
* 512 MB DDR2 (384 System, 128 Graphics)
* 60 GB Fujitsu MHV2060AH 5400 RPM ATA, Using Ultra DMA mode 5
* Realtek AC'97 Audio, RTL 8139 10/100 Mbps NIC
* Atheros AR5005G MiniPCI wireless adapter
* Pioneer DVR-K16S DVD Multi Recorder
* Microsoft Windows XP Home (5.1.2600 SP3)
Compaq Presario R3000 (R3055CA)
* Mobile Intel Pentium 4 (Norhtwood, 130 nm, 512 KB L2, 2.4/1.5 GHz, 133 MHz Quad pumped FSB)
* ATI Mobility Radeon 9100 IGP
* 512 MB DDR (384 System, 128 Graphics)
* 40 GB Hitachi DK23FA-40 4200 RPM ATA, Using Ultra DMA mode 5
* Soundmax Integrated Audio, Realtek RTL8139 10/100 Mbps NIC
* Broadcom BCM43XX MaxPerformance 54G MiniPCI Wireless ethernet
* Toshiba SD-R2512 DVD-ROM/CD-RW
* Microsoft Windows XP Home (5.1.2600 SP3)
* TI PCI 1620 5 in 1 Card reader
* IEEE 1934 Firewire port
* JBL Pro speakers
The Toshiba is the crappy one in this group, since, 6 years ago when my R3055CA was new, it was a full featured Multimedia Center.
brohana
05-12-2009, 07:05 PM
Budget gaming computer
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb62/brohana1/blah.png
this is the case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811148030
and the graphics is a 4830
Thats the recommended for crysis btw.
Timeline
05-12-2009, 07:14 PM
sextuple core
1 exabyte of storage
V8 engine
Leather seating
2009" screen
Virtual reality helmet
hehe
Model Name: MacBook
Model Identifier: MacBook4,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: sounds private
SMC Version: woo this too
Serial Number: *beeeeeeeeeep*
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled
Edit; here are Eilios' stats http://pastebin.com/m43b1fd26
Aha.
Brohana, I'm sorry, but Bean owned you :)
brohana
05-12-2009, 08:07 PM
I have more ram, about the same processor, better video card, and more disk space.
That's not owning.
yeah this is me.....http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4272/systemreq.jpg
Aha, I was mainly talking about the test.
Not the irrefutable fact that your computer still owns his :)
I have more ram, about the same processor, better video card, and more disk space.
That's not owning.
Dude you vid card sucks Brohana
512MB of vid ram?
lulcakesauce
btw, are you overclocking the sheez out of your processor?
My graphics card has more than 512 more mb's of ram than his, a high shader version, and pixel shader.
My cpu is 300mhz faster than his.
CPU + GPU are is the hardware that determines framerates in most games, though me may have more ram than me, 2gb's is more than enough.
me and beanie almost have the same comp :D
Dun keeel me :(
I didn't even look at them, was just going off what Brohana said.
But obviously I can't trust him!! -.-!
That swine flue made him dumb.
skarm
05-12-2009, 08:23 PM
Aha.
Brohana, I'm sorry, but Bean owned you :)
other way around
a 4830 is like a 9800GT
4850 is like a 9800GTX/+
4870 is like a GTX260
4850X2 is like a GTX285OC
4870X2 is not much under a GTX295
and 512MB GDDR3 is about standard for lower resolutions
why dont u noobs post cpu-z/gpu-z instead?
what is this site?
bro needs to oc that 7750... its a black ed. and he ain't ocing it lol
skarm
05-12-2009, 08:32 PM
The gtx 285 is just like an overclocked gtx 280, I'm guessing you can get similar results just by overclocking the gtx 280.
Also, a gtx 260 core 216 runs almost at the exact speed of a gtx 280, and it's half the cost.
Imo, the only good card ATI has is the 4850.
yo dawg u edit ur post and mess me up
GTX260 gets owned by the 280 but the price/performance ratio is poor
and the 4830, 4850, 4890, 4870, 4850X2, 4870X2 are all great cards.
stuff that's isn't in my sig:
2x 320gb seagate barracudas, some random LG DVD+RW drive
skarm
05-12-2009, 08:43 PM
Get your facts straight, a GTX 260 core 216 IS FASTER than a stock 280.
benchmarks please.
anyways, you're going to have some real fun with that 1.86 ghz c2d bottleneck, o'c plz
why the long wait?
cant find them benchmarks?
Meh.
I got a 1tb external storage hard drive in the mail today.
Finally :)
That adds on to my Gaming PCS 1tb of storage already.
But I'm using it for my laptop, cause it fails uberly.
brohana
05-12-2009, 09:20 PM
Beanie, you have gddr2, I have gddr3
Just because you have more doesn't mean its better.
skarm
05-12-2009, 11:31 PM
It's clocked at 3ghz you idiot, check my screenie.
And I was downloading cod4, here are your benchmarks.
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10775&Itemid=40&limit=1&limitstart=1
yes, very fair comparing an O'C card to a stock card
try O'C v. O'C and see what happens
216SP v. 240SP; 240SP tends to win
280 beats the 260 SP216, although it isn't worth the money
it's like getting a 9800GT and overclocking it then saying zomg it beats stock 9800GTX+
luka102
05-12-2009, 11:44 PM
Pentium dual-core E2220 2.4ghz OC'ed to 2.8
4GB DDR2 800mhz ram
500GB seagate barracuda
windows vista home premium
7100GT integrated gfx card (runs cod 4 on low and gets 30-50fps XD)
250W psu
Upgrading to a 4830 and a 450W psu
Infinint
05-13-2009, 12:26 AM
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 (2.6ghz, 1066mhz FSB)*
Motherboard: EVGA 680i SLI
Memory: 4GB of DDR2 1066*
Graphics: Nvidia*GeForce*8800 GTX*(768MB) *
Sound: HT Omega Striker*
Case: Lian Li V2000
Cooling: 5 x 120mm Fans, 2x 80mm Fans, Water cooling for CPU.
Hard drives:
2x 10,000 RPM raptor drives in raid 0 for 60gb of space.**
4x 500gb
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2254/computertj6.jpg
I win.
skarm
05-13-2009, 12:49 PM
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 (2.6ghz, 1066mhz FSB)*
Motherboard: EVGA 680i SLI
Memory: 4GB of DDR2 1066*
Graphics: Nvidia*GeForce*8800 GTX*(768MB) *
Sound: HT Omega Striker*
I win.
is this one of those rigs you bought back in the day just to play crysis?
Infinint
05-13-2009, 12:53 PM
is this one of those rigs you bought back in the day just to play crysis?
You make make sick. I built it myself, like any self respecting life form does, and no, I got it to play supreme commander, as my previous computer was starting to lag.
Crysis sucked.
skarm
05-13-2009, 01:05 PM
You make make sick. I built it myself, like any self respecting life form does, and no, I got it to play supreme commander, as my previous computer was starting to lag.
Crysis sucked.
when i mean bought i mean either way, you still buy the parts when you custom build.
it looks like one of those rigs from late '07 where the e2xxx-e6xxx + 8800 series were all the rave because they could easily max out any game at the time, and were the only cards that could play crysis on high with reasonable framerates except for the 3870X2 and 7950X2.
Infinint
05-13-2009, 01:08 PM
I'm onto you.
skarm
05-13-2009, 03:13 PM
More random specs:
Keyboard: Saitek Eclipse II.
Mouse: Logitech MX-518 400/800/1800 DPI Optical Gaming.
Speakers: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound speaker system.
Monitor: LG 20" (lol 4850X2 = overkill)
Infinint
05-13-2009, 03:14 PM
More random specs:
Keyboard: Saitek Eclipse II.
Mouse: Logitech MX-518 400/800/1800 DPI Optical Gaming.
Speakers: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound speaker system.
Monitor: LG 20" (lol 4850X2 = overkill)
Sounds like fail to me.
skarm
05-13-2009, 03:22 PM
Sounds like fail to me.
they're mid-range and you get a lot for what you pay, everything probably cost me about $150 USD excluding the monitor since i got it for free, monitor is 1680 x 1050
i was on a budget
Infinint
05-13-2009, 03:41 PM
I spent thousands, which makes me cool.
skarm
05-13-2009, 04:05 PM
I spent thousands, which makes me cool.
is that why people buy macs?
i spent less than $1200 on my whole system
Infinint
05-13-2009, 04:07 PM
is that why people buy macs?
i spent less than $1200 on my whole system
They buy macs because they're stupid.
skarm
05-13-2009, 04:49 PM
They buy macs because they're stupid.
i smell smoke from far away...
a fire might be burning
Infinint
05-13-2009, 04:50 PM
i smell smoke from far away...
a fire might be burning
One may only hope that they are mac users.
skarm
05-13-2009, 06:15 PM
One may only hope that they are mac users.
i mean the thread
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww332/uberskarm/myphenom.jpg <- my phenom ii with thermal paste+hs removed
atirox
05-13-2009, 06:43 PM
Finally, an AMD computer. Its a shame that no one uses AMD...
Infinint
05-13-2009, 06:45 PM
Finally, an AMD computer. Its a shame that no one uses AMD...
AMD sucks.
Infinint
05-13-2009, 06:53 PM
^^ :)
So true, and since AMD bought ATI, THEY BOTH FAIL!
ATI failed before AMD bought them, but they fail even moar now.
Yeah, ATI is failing pretty hard. Intel and nVidia are ruling the stage, and that probably won't change. I don't care how green they are. :V
skarm
05-13-2009, 06:58 PM
phII 720 x4 is on par with the intel e8500/e8600 series at a lot cheaper price and with three cores it still competes well with the e8400, considering the price
yes, my mobo can unlock it too, and if you're going to arse me enough to have to show you my mobo, i will
and 4850X2 1gb/card blows your future core 216 away easily, even though it costs like $70 more
quit thinking about old phenom I and 38xx series,
the 790X mobos, 48xx cards, and phenom iis are a great combination that were built to a work a lot better together, and they do so very well.
with AMD fusion my 3dmarks go up by 2k
this is 2009... not 2008 or 2007...
looks how well the HD 4890s is doing... easily overclocks to 1000mhz core... competes well with the 285 when that is done... and you know... it's only $229 after MIR on the egg
HD4770 CF uses 40nm and o'cs a lot more than the 4850, it even beats the 4850 when both are o'c because the 4770s can o'c so much more... and it's up for $90...
AMD is beating nvidia/intel in price vs. performance
Infinint
05-13-2009, 07:00 PM
phII 720 x4 is on par with the intel e8500/e8600 series at a lot cheaper price and with three cores it still competes well with the e8400
yes, my mobo can unlock it too, and if you're going to arse me enough to have to show you my mobo, i will
and 4850X2 1gb/card blows your future core 216 away easily, even though it costs like $70 more
quit thinking about old phenom I and 38xx series,
the 790X mobos, 48xx cards, and phenom iis are a great combination that were built to a work a lot better together, and they do so very well.
with AMD fusion my 3dmarks go up by 2k
Nice tricycle of a cpu you've got there. You know the only reason that **** exists is because of a failed quad core die.
brohana
05-13-2009, 07:00 PM
is that why people buy macs?
i spent less than $1200 on my whole system
lol i spent less than 500
Infinint
05-13-2009, 07:02 PM
lol i spent less than 500
I pissed in a cup and out came a computer.
atirox
05-13-2009, 07:03 PM
:) Infinit, you obviously dont remember the NetBurst Architechture....
And for the record, NVidia and Intel have had some words...
Intel is developing their own off board graphics system, which means that NVidia may become a thing of the past.
skarm
05-13-2009, 07:03 PM
Nice tricycle of a cpu you've got there. You know the only reason that **** exists is because of a failed quad core die.
and im very glad, tricores are putting up a good fight for $130, especially the BE
with the high demands for them you have a great chance of getting a free extra core like me
@ bro: you know how to stretch a dollar
Infinint
05-13-2009, 07:07 PM
:) Infinit, you obviously dont remember the NetBurst Architechture....
And for the record, NVidia and Intel have had some words...
Intel is developing their own off board graphics system, which means that NVidia may become a thing of the past.
Intel already has graphics hardware, made to be cheap and useful in low end desktop computers, it would not be in their best financial interest to compete with nvidia.
skarm
05-13-2009, 07:11 PM
Intel already has graphics hardware, made to be cheap and useful in low end desktop computers, it would not be in their best financial interest to compete with nvidia.
he said "off-board"
idk what he's talking about...
larabee?
atirox
05-13-2009, 07:15 PM
BINGO, WE HAVE A WINNER!!!
It is supposed to be what topples the industry... according to intel.
However, one must keep in mind the NetBurst architecture incident.
Infinint
05-13-2009, 07:16 PM
he said "off-board"
idk what he's talking about...
larabee?
It would appear so. The chip looks interesting, real time raytracing being nice, but no matter how great it might be, it's going to be shadowed by the releases ati and nvidia are making.
atirox
05-13-2009, 07:18 PM
Apparently, not according to intel....
skarm
05-13-2009, 07:18 PM
It would appear so. The chip looks interesting, real time raytracing being nice, but no matter how great it might be, it's going to be shadowed by the releases ati and nvidia are making.
i though caustic graphics were the ones making a dedicated raytracing card?
atirox
05-13-2009, 07:20 PM
i though caustic graphics were the ones making a dedicated raytracing card?
Dude, its supposed to have 25 x86 cores on it, with a special instruction set as well as the standard x86 set. who knows whats possible...
Infinint
05-13-2009, 07:21 PM
i though caustic graphics were the ones making a dedicated raytracing card?
There have been a lot of companies making ray tracing cards, everyone failed. They're impossible to get your hands on anyway and most are outdated and using your your cpu is more efficent, not to meantion CUDA.
atirox, you're listening to intel about intel's new product being fantastic? Every company is going to present their new product as the best thing ever.
Dude, its supposed to have 25 x86 cores on it, with a special instruction set as well as the standard x86 set. who knows whats possible...
Dude, graphics cards already have 8 or more times that many of cores.
atirox
05-13-2009, 07:22 PM
No, im supporting intel the same way you are. (Barfs in toilet)
And you are missing the point. You only need one core to run windows. you can use the other cores to help with recovering a password, Brute force a WPA2 passphrase.... it has the x86 instruction set...
Infinint
05-13-2009, 07:24 PM
No, im supporting intel the same way you are. (Barfs in toilet)
Their new chip will probably flop, but lead to amazing new CPUs, the way it was intended to be.
skarm
05-13-2009, 07:26 PM
intel has no way of getting into the high end GPU market without a lot of fail, raytracing or not
and caustic graphics' dedicated raytracing has been receiving a lot of hype about it on tech forums and such moreso than other failures;
http://www.caustic.com/caustic-rt_caustic-one.php
atirox
05-13-2009, 07:26 PM
Oh you mean like the Pentium 4? and its new NetBurst architecture? I lost all intrest in Intel after that.
You do realize that AMD had the first x86-64 CPU on the market, right?
Infinint
05-13-2009, 07:30 PM
intel has no way of getting into the high end GPU market without a lot of fail, raytracing or not
and caustic graphics' dedicated raytracing has been receiving a lot of hype about it on tech forums and such moreso than other failures;
http://www.caustic.com/caustic-rt_caustic-one.php
The problem is, no one, like microsoft (directx) will incorporate this stuff into their software. Like the massive, but awesome, fail that PhysX was. Games and programs need to be written to take advantage of it, and no one wants to make a game or application for it because no one has the card, and vice versa.
atirox
05-13-2009, 07:42 PM
Which is why Intel sucks. Intel's NetBurst architecture is a prime example. It was supposed to change the way CPU's were designed forever. All it did was cook hotdogs, since you needed a water cooled, 5.2 GHz P4 to compete with a 2.6 GHz Athlon. On top of that, AMD had the first 64 bit CPU on the market. Yes, Intel had the Itanium on the market before hand, but it used EFI, the same stuff that Apple uses. Most computers of the time used a BIOS. AMD had the first 64 bit chip that used a BIOS. Not intel. so tell me again why AMD sucks?
Infinint
05-13-2009, 07:45 PM
Russians were first into space, Americans were first on the moon. God forbid.
atirox
05-13-2009, 07:49 PM
Russians were first into space, Americans were first on the moon. God forbid.
really? tell me more, and try to relate this to why AMD sucks...
Infinint
05-13-2009, 07:52 PM
really? tell me more, and try to relate this to why AMD sucks...
You're giving me AMD firsts, no one cares who did what first. Intel is better in the end.
skarm
05-13-2009, 07:52 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/13/amd-busts-out-worlds-first-air-cooled-1ghz-gpu/
^^AMD = world's first air-cooled 1GHz GPU
AMD is great, and they're doing a great job now as opposed to a year ago
AND GUESS WHAT?
it's recent news
atirox
05-13-2009, 08:37 PM
You're giving me AMD firsts, no one cares who did what first. Intel is better in the end.
So, that means that the NetBurst architecture is better than P6, right?
Infinint
05-13-2009, 08:40 PM
So, that means that the NetBurst architecture is better than P6, right?
Netburst is over, what does it matter now?
skarm
05-13-2009, 08:42 PM
Netburst is over
so is phenom I and the 38xx series
atirox
05-13-2009, 08:46 PM
Because it is in the end, and it still isnt better. So, i say again. Why does AMD suck?
NuMbA
05-13-2009, 08:47 PM
Intel Pentium Processor III
1 GHZ
256 mb ram
25 GB
very crap
luka102
05-13-2009, 09:16 PM
ATI 4830 512mb: $109 CAD (sapphire)
EVGA 9800GT 512 mb: $137
both prices before rebates
after rebates 4830 is still cheaper
and they both perform the same, only the 4830 gains a lot more from OC'ing
or how about
2 4890's in xfire: $550 CAD
EVGA GTX295: $693 CAD
2x 4890's in xfire perform better, and just you wait untill the 4GB 4890X2's to come out, even the 4890x2 2gb will smoke the 295 by more
Numba, get a new computer. All i am going to say
skarm
05-13-2009, 09:43 PM
ATI 4830 512mb: $109 CAD (sapphire)
EVGA 9800GT 512 mb: $137
both prices before rebates
after rebates 4830 is still cheaper
and they both perform the same, only the 4830 gains a lot more from OC'ing
or how about
2 4890's in xfire: $550 CAD
EVGA GTX295: $693 CAD
2x 4890's in xfire perform better, and just you wait untill the 4GB 4890X2's to come out, even the 4890x2 2gb will smoke the 295 by more
Numba, get a new computer. All i am going to say
are you stupid?
luka102
05-13-2009, 10:43 PM
What makes you say that?
skarm
05-13-2009, 10:49 PM
1. If he has ME/Win2k he cannot not support 2 GPUs.
2. They did not have SLi or Crossfire at the time.
3. They used AGP slots at the time.
4. All the cards you listed use PCI-e.
5. There would be a massive bottleneck with the Pentium III.
6. He won't be playing games that need that much power because his HDD is 25GB.
7. Why are you suggesting GTX295 / 4890X2?
luka102
05-14-2009, 02:43 AM
I was not telling him to upgrade his computer to that, i was comparing nvidia cards to ATI cards and at the end i just told him he needs a better computer
skarm
06-12-2009, 01:22 PM
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=584874
my 4th core blew up lolol... had to reset CMOS
i can probably push it up to 3.8 but i dont want to feed it too many volts... it's eating 1.399v right now... max safe is 1.475v
but yeah look at my dual 4850 power
3DMARK06 score: 18335
3DMARK VANTAGE score: P12298
edit: traded in my 4850X2 for dual 4850s so that they run cooler which means more overclocking and uhh... traded in my ddr2 1066 for some OCZ Blade ddr2 800 (need to adjust the timings to 4-4-4-15 in the bios... still need to do that ugh..)
skarm
06-12-2009, 01:32 PM
4th core?
It says your running a tri core.
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=584874
some phenom II x3 get a free core that can be unlocked via ACC in the bios... mine was stable for a while then it just blew... had to reset CMOS... (the 4th core is usually unstable which is why it was disabled in the first place, either that or the F5A bios just hates me and keeps me from successfully unlocking the 4th core with stability.)
there are some lucky people that get their 4th core perfectly stable, i decided to keep mine a tricore since the 4th core was bugging me recently
im considering getting a Phenom II X4 955 for the lulz or go with a 4890 Atomic which is above the GTX285.
go google "unlock 4th core 720be" and you'll find out what i mean... considering i paid $200 for cpu+mobo combo on the egg i guess i still got an excellent deal
PiNGPaWN
06-12-2009, 02:01 PM
1TB of storage is for the win really.
I have 4 terabytes on my desktop.
wut nao bech
skarm
06-12-2009, 02:20 PM
i dont see the use of 1+ TB unless you're running a server...
also prime95 stable for 10 loops:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=584904
Infinint
06-12-2009, 02:23 PM
i dont see the use of 1+ TB unless you're running a server...
Lol, noob.
skarm
06-12-2009, 02:32 PM
Lol, noob.
lol waste of $$$$$
get a good 640GB caviar black hdd and an ssd to boot the OS from and you're good to go
Infinint
06-12-2009, 02:34 PM
lol waste of $$$$$
get a good 640GB caviar black hdd and an ssd to boot the OS from and you're good to go
I fill up 2tb already. Most of it is actually useful stuff.
skarm
06-12-2009, 02:36 PM
I fill up 2tb already. Most of it is actually useful stuff.
when my pr0n and 4chan folder fills up ill add another one... how's that?
Infinint
06-12-2009, 02:38 PM
when my pr0n and 4chan folder fills up ill add another one... how's that?
You're ***.
PiNGPaWN
06-12-2009, 03:07 PM
You're ***.
I know rite.. hes like a nerd troller. >.>
BEAN!
skarm
06-12-2009, 03:28 PM
chill guys... how do you even fill up 1tb?
all i have on this computer are games...
Eiliosdraye
06-13-2009, 11:55 PM
i dont see the use of 1+ TB unless you're running a server...
also prime95 stable for 10 loops:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=584904
If you do any development work whatsoever 1 + TB is a godsend. Of course, most of pawngamers are end users, and don't actually care about creativity or any real work, and only play computer games.
Infinint is right here.
Infinint
06-14-2009, 12:02 AM
Hmm didn't know, thats coo.
I member a few years ago when people were buying NVIDIA 6200's, and some of them were actually 6800 ultras lol.
Nvidia just put some patch to disable the extra crap, which was easily removed.
I hope that happens with the GTX 300 series :D
People who got suckered into buying a known, and marketed as such, faulty processor are just stupid as hell. Three cores? Come on, seriously, does AMD really have to make its financial shortcomings so obvious?
skarm
06-14-2009, 08:36 PM
People who got suckered into buying a known, and marketed as such, faulty processor are just stupid as hell. Three cores? Come on, seriously, does AMD really have to make its financial shortcomings so obvious?
It beats the Intel E8400 at a lower price.
The Phenom II X3 is an excellent performer for the price, overclocks very well too.
The Phenom II X2 is another messed up Quad-Core die... and it easily beats Intel's counterpart in the price / performance ratio.
I knew this was a faulty Quad-Core die when I bought it but it performs so well, it even beat my friend's Intel Q6600 @ 3.2 GHz by a couple hundred points in 3DMark06 CPU testing (mine was at 3.6GHz but with only three cores).
Go look at benchmarks and you'll see that at $130 this chip pushes out some impressive power.
Infinint
06-14-2009, 08:46 PM
It beats the Intel E8400 at a lower price.
The Phenom II X3 is an excellent performer for the price, overclocks very well too.
The Phenom II X2 is another messed up Quad-Core die... and it easily beats Intel's counterpart in the price / performance ratio.
I knew this was a faulty Quad-Core die when I bought it but it performs so well, it even beat my friend's Intel Q6600 @ 3.2 GHz by a couple hundred points in 3DMark06 CPU testing (mine was at 3.6GHz but with only three cores).
Go look at benchmarks and you'll see that at $130 this chip pushes out some impressive power.
You never want to bring over clocking into the picture when arguing AMD's strengths. Just buy a cheap intel processor and over clock it to the max it'll go in that series.
brohana
06-14-2009, 08:50 PM
This is why I just bought a top-of-the-line athlon, its cheap, reliable, and very high quality for the price.
skarm
06-15-2009, 02:18 AM
You never want to bring over clocking into the picture when arguing AMD's strengths. Just buy a cheap intel processor and over clock it to the max it'll go in that series.
Phenom II 720BE 3.8 GHz (Maximum "safe" OC on Air) > Intel E8400 4.0 GHz (Maximum "safe" OC on Air)
Nothing cheaper or weaker than the E8400 can compete with the 720BE in price even when factoring in overclocking.
Get over it, Phenom II are so much better than the Phenom I you are thinking of.
Infinint
06-15-2009, 02:20 AM
Phenom II 720BE 3.8 GHz (Maximum "safe" OC on Air) > Intel E8400 4.0 GHz (Maximum "safe" OC on Air)
Nothing cheaper or weaker than the E8400 can compete with the 720BE in price even when factoring in overclocking.
Get over it, Phenom II are so much better than the Phenom I you are thinking of.
AMD sucks.
skarm
06-15-2009, 05:31 AM
lol no...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=202838
Intel chips overclock WAYYY better.
I've gotten a 100% overclock out of my E6300 stable.
Yes, Intel chips overclock better.
Do they beat AMDs price + performance when both Intel and AMD processors are overclocked, no.
Newer E8400s are a guaranteed 4.0 GHz and anything above that will need questionable amounts of voltage; Phenom II X3 720s are a guaranteed 3.6 and anything above that will need questionable amounts of voltage.
Who overclocks more? Intel
Which in the better performer? AMD
Which one is cheaper? AMD
AMD counterparts always beat Intel counterparts when we're talking about the new Phenom IIs in price + performance, get over it.
While a 4.0GHz Conroe was nice at the time, it struggles with the newer Wolfdale and Yorkfields at the same clock speeds, esp. with that 2MB L2 cache keeping that OC from reaching it's full potential. I'd love to do some 3DMark06 runs with you and see how your 4.0 GHz Conroe does against my Phenom II. Get a nice new 45nm E7xxx/E8xxx or Q9xxx.
My chip is prime95 "stable" for 10 loops at 4.4GHz with 1.550v, I'm sure that guy just got it to 5.0GHz for the validation and got the hell out of there, later on you'll see he knocked it down to 4.7 for a 3DMark06 run; notice how his CPU score is only 300 more than mine even at his all-glorious 4700 megahertz...
pathetic
edit: oh my god he's using 1.5v on that chip!! it's going to have a short life... not good for 24/7...
his 9800GX2 completely kills my 4850CF since he's probably watercooling them... +160 / +111 / +400 would kill that card under air... that card makes so much heat...
im trading in my 4850s for a 4890 Vapor-X hopefully...
i bet bean would totally trade his e6300 for an Athlon II X2 if he had the chance.
skarm
06-15-2009, 08:40 PM
Also, your saying his E8400 beat your processor? That further proves the 2 of intels LAST GEN CHIPS, beat 3 of AMD's next gen chips.
His was at 4.7 GHz while I'm at 3.6GHz,he scored ~4400 while I scored ~4000 on the CPU benchmark; do the math; he needed an insanely high clock speed as well as voltage in order to beat out the Phenom II X3 720 at 3.6GHz which is completely stable 24/7.
garbage
My chip is prime95 stable at 4.4GHz with 1.6v (my previous post states 1.550v but I tested that and I could only do 4.2 stable with that)... does that mean I'm going to keep it like that forever? NO! You do suicide runs yourself by temporarily doing a massive overclock just for the purpose of some quick benchmarking.
In true 24/7 use, the cap for the E8400 is the 3.8-4.2 while the Phenom II 720BE does 3.6-3.8.
720BE wins in the end.
god go read some benchmarks and get up to date with your tech
the only thing intel has over AMD is the i7 and that's it, everything else has a shitty price/performance ratio compared to AMD Phenom II
if i had the $$ i would have gone i7, but AMD wins when you want to save money, especially since the expensive i7 needs a new expensive mobo
No sense in buying price per performance hardware if the hardware your buying is outdated.
are you calling everything except for i7 outdated? lol
people are still buying core 2 quads and core 2 duos every day... but the Phenom II X2, X3, X4 all offer better price/performance over them... Q6600 is still at $215 on the egg wtf??
robodestructo
06-16-2009, 07:21 PM
What is that program you are using for the specs?
Eiliosdraye
06-16-2009, 07:40 PM
Alternatively, if you are running mac/linux/bsd/anything unix based,
As root(log into super user OR sudo) type lshw. This will provide a more detailed(albeit harder to read) log that will give you specs. Make sure to put it in pastebin, lshw is several thousand characters, and will kill the page.
skarm
06-16-2009, 08:49 PM
duh... of course it isn't stable... 4.7 @ 1.5?...
intelburntest won't open... idk why... is this only meant for intel chips? i click on the icon but nothing comes up... im OCCT stable too if you'd like to know and i can encode my vids fine as well.
Core 2 architecture and Phenom II aren't outdated; just because i7 is the best thing out there, does not automatically make things outdated.
you're using the term incorrectly
people often refer to their computers as outdated when they no longer feels it satisfies their needs.
Core 2 and Phenom II won't be "outdated" by casual gamers until another 1-2 years goes by, some people still have their overclocked athlon x2s and they work _just fine_ with many games out there when you pair them up with a lower end gaming card like a 4830/8800GT
Im a non tech dude...So ill copy what it says on the label on the side of the computer.
Windows vista
supermuli drive.
intel pentium dual core processor e2220
2048mb ddr2
360gb 3g hard drive
BANANA
skarm
06-16-2009, 09:45 PM
In reedddddddd.
you're using the denotative meaning of outdated or you're using your opinion of outdated
that would mean that the new dual core celerons coming up will make the i7 outdated
or explain your own custom definition here.
Eiliosdraye
06-16-2009, 10:00 PM
Windows vista
Eww .
skarm
06-16-2009, 10:29 PM
Eww .
windows vista sp1 is superior now in every way over xp sp2/3
NuMbA
06-16-2009, 10:34 PM
By going through all these posts I realize how much more my computer is crap.
Poeple with over 4 ghz when I only have 0.8
Eiliosdraye
06-16-2009, 10:34 PM
superior now in every way over xp sp2/3
Which is not good either.
skarm
06-17-2009, 01:31 AM
Newer and better technology will make something outdated.
A crappy celeron, even though newer, would not make the i7 outdated because the i7 it beats it performance wise.
So everything before the i7-975 is outdated?
@elios: everything except failing
Eiliosdraye
06-17-2009, 12:45 PM
inb4 someone says nerdrage in allcaps with lots of exclamation marks by saying:
NERDRAGE!!!!!!!!/c
robodestructo
06-17-2009, 08:00 PM
Were not really using a program, we just know.
If you'd like to know yours,
Press Start > Run > Type in "dxdiag" without the quotes, and your system information will pop up.
No, I ment the program for seeing your specs compared to the required. The one in the screenshots
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