Return of the scout!!!!!

[HvyGnnr]

I realize this is gonna get a negative response by alot of people but i love the scout class and miss it. I really believe it should be brought back and changed a bit. JUST A BIT! But i know there are those of you who don't believe it will ever come back but even if that is your thought but u still WANT it back then please vote yes. I think it has a chance. The scout class was a major favorite of mine since the beta (even though no one has remembered me on the beta players lists >:(... but im not bitter about it at all). It was a great class for excellent sniping, heavy pwning, defense against recons, but still not overpowered or invincible. Please vote and please post suggestions of how you would like to see the RETURN OF THE SCOUT!!!!!

[FlippysKnife]

Its probably not coming back since "they" already made the Lancer.
I would like it back, but i bet its not gonna happen.

[HvyGnnr]

read the post bro, if you want it back, vote

[Betsinator]

guys come on like sercily why do you guys keep making threads i think blank seen anof of them all ready you should just get over it

i realy dont care if its back

[Jmoney]

(so many of these threads have been made)I don't think they will bring it back, and I don't really care to much. For me I didn't like the scout all that much, all it could do really well was kill heavys, and other than that it was full of flaws.

[Betsinator]

(so many of these threads have been made)I don't think they will bring it back, and I don't really care to much. For me I didn't like the scout all that much, all it could do really well was kill heavys, and other than that it was full of flaws.

what was one of its flaws then to me it was a pretty good class

[Ryuk]

They isn't any point for the scout to come back, it's role as the anti heavy is already taken up by the newer lancer, which does its job about x2 better. :|

[ReconReaper]

Any Beta player would say that the Scout owns the Lancer, and that the Lancer was just a crap class that they added to appease the people leaving the game because of all the stupid changes.

Lancer is only good against Heavies, but the Scout's rifle STILL did even more damage than the Gauss, plus it had a knife and two claymores. It still wasn't overpowered either because it had light armor.

I voted yes. I wish their had been an option for "OMFG YES!!!" though... :|

[Ryuk]

Any Beta player would say that the Scout owns the Lancer, and that the Lancer was just a crap class that they added to appease the people leaving the game because of all the stupid changes.

Lancer is only good against Heavies, but the Scout's rifle STILL did even more damage than the Gauss, plus it had a knife and two claymores. It still wasn't overpowered either because it had light armor.

I voted yes. I wish their had been an option for "OMFG YES!!!" though... :|

Are you really saying 60 damage is weak? The Guass does a very large chunk of damage, and has a great fire rate. Although the sniper rifle packed a big punch, the fire rate left it vulnerable to larger groups of enemies.

[xXJinyangerXx]

LOL, you guys get so into arguing I wanna see the scout :p or give the lancer claymores.

[ReconReaper]

60 damage is pretty weak actually, since it takes three shots to kill an Assault. Also, for some reason the Gauss Rifle is hard to aim...

Not only that, but the auto-pistol it has is pure fail. It needs to have it's old, faster rate of fire returned, because Recons get me 99% of the time as Lancer, that's why when I need to kill a Heavy, I just use the Assault.

[Balddude]

60 damage is pretty weak actually, since it takes three shots to kill an Assault. Also, for some reason the Gauss Rifle is hard to aim...

Not only that, but the auto-pistol it has is pure fail. It needs to have it's old, faster rate of fire returned, because Recons get me 99% of the time as Lancer, that's why when I need to kill a Heavy, I just use the Assault.



Well, that means you are not really THAT good with the Lancer yet. There is a very easy way of killing Recons with the pistol. You don't run away from it, you run TOWARDS it, and keep staying directly on it. Trust me, it works,


As for the Scout, I say no. The Lancer does it's job much better as it stands a bigger chance against all the other classes on a whole. I mean, you compare the Scout's and the Lancer's cool down rate for their main weapons, the Lancer clearly wins. Due to the fact that they both need 2 shots to kill a Heavy, a Lancer can do the job faster and cleaner.

[HvyGnnr]

60 damage is pretty weak actually, since it takes three shots to kill an Assault. Also, for some reason the Gauss Rifle is hard to aim...

Not only that, but the auto-pistol it has is pure fail. It needs to have it's old, faster rate of fire returned, because Recons get me 99% of the time as Lancer, that's why when I need to kill a Heavy, I just use the Assault.

omg dude i love you. we think exactly the same. i agree completely that our range class needs to be stronger like the scout and have a better pistol. I think it should have a revolver that does like 20 but with low rate of fire

[Calisniper13]

Scout owns lancer.

Nuff said.

[Ryuk]

60 damage is pretty weak actually, since it takes three shots to kill an Assault. Also, for some reason the Gauss Rifle is hard to aim...

Not only that, but the auto-pistol it has is pure fail. It needs to have it's old, faster rate of fire returned, because Recons get me 99% of the time as Lancer, that's why when I need to kill a Heavy, I just use the Assault.

It's hard for the lancer to deal with recons, I agree with you, but you know what was even worse? The fact that the scout was virtually useless against people on higher elevations. If they have height superiority, there is nothing you can do besides a suicidal dash for the hill. It's as trade off the lancer has to make. :|

[HvyGnnr]

It's hard for the lancer to deal with recons, I agree with you, but you know what was even worse? The fact that the scout was virtually useless against people on higher elevations. If they have height superiority, there is nothing you can do besides a suicidal dash for the hill. It's as trade off the lancer has to make. :|

which proves that their not overpowered, they have a weakness. thank you for supporting the cause bro

[n3xussn1p3r]

Lancer is a good class but scout is better. Bring it back.

[digitalpixel]

i mean really, I'm the person who was ranting and ranting about the comeback of scout since the November update of PT beta. first of all, it wasn't just an anti-heavy, it was also anti-recon considering this class both has a knife and clays. For me other than recon this is class specialty.
i would like it to comeback even for just about a day.

[KaerO]

Get back the scout and give lancer claymores!

*FULL SUPPORT*

[Ryuk]

Guys, really, in order to bring back the scout, it needs to fulfill a purpose in our class system. Right now, the lancer is our anti-heavy and does a bang up job at it already, it has taken the role of the scout away.

[KaerO]

Scout has a purpose, a scope...with claymores...

-Anti Recon.
-Anti every thing.

Bring it back.

[Ryuk]

Scout has a purpose, a scope...with claymores...

-Anti Recon.
-Anti every thing.

Bring it back.

We have a heavy for that job, and I don't think the scope can come back without some major reforms, it was just too overpowered back then.
If you like defensive classes equipped with clays that can defend choke points and bases, we have the mauler for that purpose.

[HvyGnnr]

We have a heavy for that job, and I don't think the scope can come back without some major reforms, it was just too overpowered back then.
If you like defensive classes equipped with clays that can defend choke points and bases, we have the mauler for that purpose.

ugh every1 hates the mauler, i do, i HATE it

[Ryuk]

ugh every1 hates the mauler, i do, i HATE it

It has a grenade launcher, MP7, as well as a knife of its own. Even if you do not like it because it has a strange feel or because you simply can't use it proficiently, you cannot deny that it is both powerful and fulfills its job as a defender superbly.

[Xenocide]

yea i would want the scout bk but at least GIVE THE LANCERS CLAYMORES D:<

[Ryuk]

yea i would want the scout bk but at least GIVE THE LANCERS CLAYMORES D:<


Okay, first of all, lancers are not defenders!!!

Their high speed and agility combined with their guass rifle and their set of nades gives this class an offensive role, not a defensive role.

[ReconReaper]

The fact that the Lancer's rifle actually kills an Assault in ONLY THREE HITS, plus it's crappy pistol renders it only useable as an anti-Heavy class.

I would never use a Lancer offensively, it just sucks too bad.

[Ryuk]

Recon, yes, it does take 3 shots to kill a full health assault or medium armor class, but did you ever look at your opponent's health bar after just 2 shots? They've got absolutely nothing left after 2 shots, just a tiny sliver of health that isn't even enough to resist a stray bullet. It does plenty of damage, and if it wasn't for its weakness to recons it would be the game's most overpowered class. It has it all, grenades, speed, mild armor, and an accurate, powerful rifle.

[KaerO]

But we need a modern day sniper the lancer is way to far out there, maybe like in the year 3000 or something with those laser shots.
Lancer's pistol needs to be fastened up again, then i will stop complaining.

[ReconReaper]

I agree, the Lancer will be fine as long as it's pistol is returned to it's original cooldown.

Also KaerO, it's a Gauss projectile, not a laser. Gauss projectiles are actually in use today in certain military weapons.

[HvyGnnr]

The fact that the Lancer's rifle actually kills an Assault in ONLY THREE HITS, plus it's crappy pistol renders it only useable as an anti-Heavy class.

I would never use a Lancer offensively, it just sucks too bad.

its true, why should a sniper class take 3 shots to kill a medium armor opponent. THREE SHOTS!?!? thats BS. the only thing lancer is REALLY good for is depleding and desheilding the guard class. close quarters its horrible and taking out medium armor foes is inconvinient and stupid for taking THREE SHOTS!?!?!?!

[ReconReaper]

Also for some reason, I can't even aim with the stupid rifle. But I can aim with anything else.

[Ryuk]

its true, why should a sniper class take 3 shots to kill a medium armor opponent. THREE SHOTS!?!? thats BS. the only thing lancer is REALLY good for is depleding and desheilding the guard class. close quarters its horrible and taking out medium armor foes is inconvinient and stupid for taking THREE SHOTS!?!?!?!

It does 80 damage and fires fast as hell. Listen, after just two shots, your opponent is then pretty much crippled. His health bar has 1 sliver of health left and any type of bullet will kill him. Even better, if you are fighting an assault that had just be roughed up a bit in a previous fight(I mean, even taken a single bullet of any kind), he will die in 2 shots. >.>

Statistics don't lie, the lancer is a death machine.

[ReconReaper]

It does 80 damage and fires fast as hell. Listen, after just two shots, your opponent is then pretty much crippled. His health bar has 1 sliver of health left and any type of bullet will kill him. Even better, if you are fighting an assault that had just be roughed up a bit in a previous fight(I mean, even taken a single bullet of any kind), he will die in 2 shots. >.>

Statistics don't lie, the lancer is a death machine.
It does 60 damage, which is awful for a sniper. The Scout's MSG-90 did 80 damage, which was lethal to even Recons. I wouldn't care if Lancers stayed, but they need melee or a knife.

Yes I know their weakness is Recons, but SO WHAT. Even if it is their weakness, they still need defense against them. The Scout was even weaker to Recons, and what did Blank do? He gave it a knife with claymores.

It just doesn't make sense to give melee to Assault/Heavy, when they are the game's two most powerful classes, when the weaker classes get nothing.

[KaerO]

It does 80 damage and fires fast as hell. Listen, after just two shots, your opponent is then pretty much crippled. His health bar has 1 sliver of health left and any type of bullet will kill him. Even better, if you are fighting an assault that had just be roughed up a bit in a previous fight(I mean, even taken a single bullet of any kind), he will die in 2 shots. >.>

Statistics don't lie, the lancer is a death machine.

The mauler is a lancer's worst nightmare...or a recon, or anything on a higher ground with better accuracy.

[Ryuk]

The mauler is a lancer's worst nightmare...or a recon, or anything on a higher ground with better accuracy.

Considering that a recon can be a mild threat to even a heavy with elevation advantage, any class with elevation advantage is a class's nightmare. It's weak to recons for a reason, balancing measures >.>

If it could kill recons as well as assaults, maulers, supports, guards, and heavies, don't you see a problem with that?

[ReconReaper]

I also find it stupid that the Lancer is weaker to Recons than a Mauler is, but the Mauler gets a knife and claymores.

The Mauler has better weapons and defense, but it gets more defensive weapons than the weaker class, that's bull.

That's why I hate using Lancers, and just stick to Assaults when a Heavy charges through.

[Ryuk]

I also find it stupid that the Lancer is weaker to Recons than a Mauler is, but the Mauler gets a knife and claymores.

The Mauler has better weapons and defense, but it gets more defensive weapons than the weaker class, that's bull.

That's why I hate using Lancers, and just stick to Assaults when a Heavy charges through.

omg, Recon, I can't believe you do not see the mauler's most striking, obvious weakness...
ELEVATION

Let me ask you this, if you see a heavy or some other opponent on a hill with height advantage, what options do you have besides attempting a reckless suicide charge? Nothing, your nade launcher cannot shoot onto higher elevations nor do you have regular nades.

Every class has some sort of weakness to offset its advantages.

[ReconReaper]

That's not what I mean. Maulers arent supposed to be offensive, duh, I meant when Maulers or Lancers are being defensive, the Mauler gets the best defenseive power weapons, but the Lancer gets nothing, when the Lancer is clearly more vulnerable.

[Ryuk]

That's not what I mean. Maulers arent supposed to be offensive, duh, I meant when Maulers or Lancers are being defensive, the Mauler gets the best defenseive power weapons, but the Lancer gets nothing, when the Lancer is clearly more vulnerable.

Likewise, the lancer was never meant to be defensive,. :|

Every class has its roles, the mauler is our game's guardian and defender, and the lancer is our bullet fast offensive striker.

[ReconReaper]

Every class can be used offensively or defensively, if you think about it.

Therefore, every class needs a weapon corresponding to each.

Assault's offensive weapon is the Rifle, defensive is the rifle and melee.

Support's offensive is the Shotgun, defensive is the Shotgun.

Heavy's offensive is the Minigun and Deagle, defensive is the Minigun, Deagle, and melee.

Recon's offensive is the MP5 and the knife, defensive is the MP5.

Mauler's offensive is the Machine Pistol, defensive is the knife and claymores.

Guard's offensive is the Uzi, defensive is the shield.

Lancer's offensive is the Gauss, defensive is... nothing.

[Balddude]

You guys just don't seem to understand the fact that in these current in-game situations, the Scout simply does not stand a chance against the other classes, including the Heavy. The Scout's slow firing rate restricts the Scout's ability to kill to just that much. However, the Lancer, has a much faster firing rate which can kill any other class with much ease.


Case study: Heavy vs Scout and Lancer

1.
If the Heavy and Scout were on same levels, it would be a clear tie. This is because before the Scout could put the second bullet in, the Heavy would already have 4 shots on him. If the Scout were to miss any one of those 2 shots, they are a goner. Oh yeah, since rapid fire is long gone, you can forget about finishing off the Heavy with your secondary weapon.

If the Heavy was on lower ground and the Scout was on higher ground, it would either be a tie or a Scout win. This is because in most cases, before the Scout can pull the trigger twice, the Heavy will be able to get his 2 grenades up to the Scout. Considering the Scout's light armor, it may not be able to withstand the power and it may result in a tie.

If the Scout were on lower level than the Heavy, well, just forget about it.


2.
If the Lancer and Heavy were on level ground, it is the Lancer's match up to win. The Lancer's high power and high firing range Gauss rifle would be able to take down a Heavy in much more ease. Considering the fact that both the Gauss rifle of the Lancer and the Sniper rifle of the Scout takes 2 shots to kill a Heavy, the Lancer obviously has a clear advantage, not to mention the fact that the Lancer has a medium armor, which allows it to take in more damage without dying.

If the Lancer were on higher ground, the firing rate of Gauss rifle would once again prove critical as it would be able to get the 2 shots into the Heavy before it could whip out the second grenade, therefore resulting in a Lancer win again.

If the Heavy were to be on an elevated level, it may depend on what kind of level is it. The Lancer may be able to use it's grenade and flashbang arsenal, which the Scout lacks in, to successfully get away or even get the kill. If the Lancer is able to get both grenades in the elevated level and also sneek in the elevated level before dying, it is a Lancer win. Therefore, this is a tie, however leaning towards the Heavy.



As you can see, the Lancer has a clear advantage over the Heavy compared to the Scout. The firing rate, armor, lack of grenades and flashbangs all pull the Scout down. Besides only the Heavy, the Lancer is able to take down other classes with ease too, taking into consideration it's semi-automatic pistol. All in all, the Lancer is a clear better class than a Heavy. Therefore...


DON'T SUPPORT

[ReconReaper]

I'm talking about defensive abilities toward Recons. No one is even talking about the Heavy right now.

Besides, it wouldn't be that bad if the Scout returned and the Lancer still stayed, so shaddup. D:

[Ryuk]

I'm talking about defensive abilities toward Recons. No one is even talking about the Heavy right now.

Besides, it wouldn't be that bad if the Scout returned and the Lancer still stayed, so shaddup. D:

Recon, you don't seem to remember that the scout's main job was the anti-heavy, if it's outmatched by the lancer in that area, what purpose does it have here?

[ReconReaper]

As a sniper. <_<

The main use of the Scout was a base defender in CTF games, besides the anti-Heavy abilities.

[Balddude]

As a sniper. <_<

The main use of the Scout was a base defender in CTF games, besides the anti-Heavy abilities.



Well, maybe back then when the Guardian and Warzone were still around. Right now, our current CTF map---Dirty Tactics, has like 4 entrances, any Recon can just slip and and knife a Scout and get away with the flag. You mine as well put a Heavy as the base defender...

[HvyGnnr]

The mauler is a lancer's worst nightmare...or a recon, or anything on a higher ground with better accuracy.

i totally agree with this statement, the lancer has too many weaknesses. it is weak against recons especially but also weak against supports at mid to close range taking them out with 2 shotty shots. also there is mauler who can also easily be a scary match. even sometimes heavies. i have lost countless fights as a lancer against heavies because of their faster rate of fire destroying the lancer at mid to close range. point is, unless a lancer is really really far away or on an elevation advantage, it is no comparison to the great versatility and excellence of the formerly existing scout

[vAero]

Wow,the scout IS the lancer.

Scout's Rifle=Lancer's Gauss Rifle
Scout's Claymores=Lancer's Frag Grenades
Scout's Knife=Lancer's Flash and Secondary Weapon

[ReconReaper]

Wow,the scout IS the lancer.

Scout's Rifle=Lancer's Gauss Rifle
Scout's Claymores=Lancer's Frag Grenades
Scout's Knife=Lancer's Flash and Secondary Weapon
LMAO.

Scout's Rifle = 80 damage
Lancer's Rifle = 60

Nades can't stop Recons well.

Flash = knife? o.o

OffTopic: Beserker, did you log on to PT before it went down today? PIX is going GREAT.

[LtSanta]

ya scout should be back but to make it more fair they should make it not shoot through walls and the scope shouldn't go so far

[ReconReaper]

Not shoot through walls? It never did. <_<

Plus, If they ever do bring back the Scout, they'll for sure never bring back the scope.

[DefyGravity]

i think scout shuld b back. We need more unit classes anyway.

[HvyGnnr]

Jeez u guys. what more poll response do we need. The people clearly want back the scout. COME ON BLANK101, GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!

keep up the voting guys and rate this thread 5*s

[DS]

I will come back to PT if the Scout comes back. 100% supports.

[vAero]

LMAO.

Scout's Rifle = 80 damage
Lancer's Rifle = 60

Nades can't stop Recons well.

Flash = knife? o.o

OffTopic: Beserker, did you log on to PT before it went down today? PIX is going GREAT.

Yes I did...it's going great. Anyways,low damage is replaced by low cooldown. Nades are basically a portable claymore. You have a pistol that can take em down.

[Parma]

There is a reason it was removed and a reason there are new classes that have came after its removal.

You want a rifle capable of destroying Heavies, go Lancer.

You want a knife and some claymores, go Mauler.

You want a scope, give Blank money to help pay for bandwidth.

You want the scout back, simply just give up.

Oh RR, if you wish to go and try and destroy the whole rifle thing, The Lancer rifle is faster and destroys Heavies in the same amount of shots.

Oh and if you want to say the Lancer has way to many weaknesses that it is stupid. The scout would clearly do worse, the scout was used to camp so in an Assault were Blue are Heavies, how will a class that's real only use is to camp going to help? Exactly, look as a whole the Scout was good when it was here, that was the past, classes have changed and apadted and in this game the Scout would be destroyed quicker then 1 Blue Recon facing of against 5 Red Heavies on higher ground.

[HvyGnnr]

There is a reason it was removed and a reason there are new classes that have came after its removal.

You want a rifle capable of destroying Heavies, go Lancer.

You want a knife and some claymores, go Mauler.

You want a scope, give Blank money to help pay for bandwidth.

You want the scout back, simply just give up.

Oh RR, if you wish to go and try and destroy the whole rifle thing, The Lancer rifle is faster and destroys Heavies in the same amount of shots.

Oh and if you want to say the Lancer has way to many weaknesses that it is stupid. The scout would clearly do worse, the scout was used to camp so in an Assault were Blue are Heavies, how will a class that's real only use is to camp going to help? Exactly, look as a whole the Scout was good when it was here, that was the past, classes have changed and apadted and in this game the Scout would be destroyed quicker then 1 Blue Recon facing of against 5 Red Heavies on higher ground.

and if you want all in one then go scout. except we all know the scope isnt coming back so why even bring it up???

[Parma]

Because, that truly is all the scout was worthwhile for, with Mauler and Lancer, there is not one true point to bring back a class that has been replaced like seriously, anyone with half a brain can work out the Scout wont be back, at all. I have the best idea ever, instead of trying to get a massive amount of votes so when Blank is browsing the forums doesn't go "Eh, in your dreams maybe" why not create a new class or be productive in life.

[SnipeMe]

I am truly shocked that some of you guys are saying the scout was amazing and owns lancers. A lancer may do 20 less damage but it can shoot three times before the scout can shoot twice and it has better armor. This means that if you were to use the lancer in the same way that you would use a scout, the lancer would be more effective. Also, lancers can kill assaults and are better at killing assaults then the scout was. All you have to do is keep your cursor on the assault and hold the mouse button. Since the lancer does more damage per second then the scout, it's better off then scouts. Plus, it has better armor for such confrontations and it has grenades that can be used to flush the assaults out. As for recons, the lancer should have its pistol speed brought up a bit but Blank shouldn't throw in the scout to deal with recons because aside from recons, the lancer is more effective against every other class. The only thing Blank should do is boost the pistol. Also, you guys are saying that a mauler is scary for lancers, well if a scout fought a mauler, the scout would be dead in 2 seconds.

[HvyGnnr]

Because, that truly is all the scout was worthwhile for, with Mauler and Lancer, there is not one true point to bring back a class that has been replaced like seriously, anyone with half a brain can work out the Scout wont be back, at all. I have the best idea ever, instead of trying to get a massive amount of votes so when Blank is browsing the forums doesn't go "Eh, in your dreams maybe" why not create a new class or be productive in life.

productive in life? this is a forum bro. for a GAME. not life. i assume you mix the two up alot. or you just don't have a life. and ive seen your class suggestions. making up weapons is just stupid and it highlights the fact that you don't have a life even more

[Ryuk]

productive in life? this is a forum bro. for a GAME. not life. i assume you mix the two up alot. or you just don't have a life. and ive seen your class suggestions. making up weapons is just stupid and it highlights the fact that you don't have a life even more

If you have to resort to personal attacks to bolster your position, what kind of an argument do you have? :|

[HvyGnnr]

If you have to resort to personal attacks to bolster your position, what kind of an argument do you have? :|

according to the polls, a great one. but dude i was just defending his first personal attack of telling me to do something more with my life than try to bring back the scout, thats all. sorry

[vAero]

productive in life? this is a forum bro. for a GAME. not life. i assume you mix the two up alot. or you just don't have a life. and ive seen your class suggestions. making up weapons is just stupid and it highlights the fact that you don't have a life even more

What's worse is that you are trying to insult someone on he Internet when it's not going to hurt them....

[Parma]

Well thank you Ryuk, but you know I am a big boy and can handle myself as such.

How exactly is the weapons I suggested, "made up"? I mean in like almost stack of other games I have seen them, so that really doesn't make my weapon ideas "made up" by me, plus imagination is a good thing.

As for the voting, anyone who voted yes is as dumb if not more as you like seriously I think me, and snipe's last arguments would be enough to tell you its not going to happen and point out those reasons.

As for my life, I do have one, actually everyone does. But I am guessing your pointing to my social life right? I will just point over to my long list of one night stands, some of which include your mum. Oh, burn. <.<

But I didn't mix up the fact these are forums and going off them is considered life. Look, overall this suggestion is stupid, overall you are, overall >.> I am on my high horse which I shouldn't be...

Look, don't try and start a war with me on anything. People have tried to and failed. Except Bin... o.O the one man to beat me...>.> Anyway, just stop this, and I shall request the lock now.

[HvyGnnr]

Well thank you Ryuk, but you know I am a big boy and can handle myself as such.

How exactly is the weapons I suggested, "made up"? I mean in like almost stack of other games I have seen them, so that really doesn't make my weapon ideas "made up" by me, plus imagination is a good thing.

As for the voting, anyone who voted yes is as dumb if not more as you like seriously I think me, and snipe's last arguments would be enough to tell you its not going to happen and point out those reasons.

As for my life, I do have one, actually everyone does. But I am guessing your pointing to my social life right? I will just point over to my long list of one night stands, some of which include your mum. Oh, burn. <.<

But I didn't mix up the fact these are forums and going off them is considered life. Look, overall this suggestion is stupid, overall you are, overall >.> I am on my high horse which I shouldn't be...

Look, don't try and start a war with me on anything. People have tried to and failed. Except Bin... o.O the one man to beat me...>.> Anyway, just stop this, and I shall request the lock now.

really ryuk? you bust me for "personal attacks"? look at this guy. seriously parma. all those thing u just said were really cool and very intimidating i wanna be just like you now :|

[TopHatMan]

They isn't any point for the scout to come back, it's role as the anti heavy is already taken up by the newer lancer, which does its job about x2 better. :|

does more like a -2x job, the gauss STAFF is about as slow, weak, and the bullets seem to be slow as well.

Scout merged with Specialist would be pwnage
Scout Rifle
Poison Dart Gun
Knife
Clays

= Perfect

There is a reason it was removed and a reason there are new classes that have came after its removal.

You want a rifle capable of destroying Heavies, go Lancer.
Lancer makes me want to cut myself.
You want a knife and some claymores, go Mauler.
Mauler isn't light, to dam slow.
You want a scope, give Blank money to help pay for bandwidth.
Scope didn't cause lag at all when we had it, not sure what your smoking.
You want the scout back, simply just give up.
Make me?
Oh RR, if you wish to go and try and destroy the whole rifle thing, The Lancer rifle is faster and destroys Heavies in the same amount of shots.

Oh and if you want to say the Lancer has way to many weaknesses that it is stupid. The scout would clearly do worse, the scout was used to camp so in an Assault were Blue are Heavies, how will a class that's real only use is to camp going to help? Exactly, look as a whole the Scout was good when it was here, that was the past, classes have changed and apadted and in this game the Scout would be destroyed quicker then 1 Blue Recon facing of against 5 Red Heavies on higher ground.

The classes are hardly changed, there's just 3 new ones, 2 of which just feel like fillers.

[Eiliosdraye]

really ryuk? you bust me for "personal attacks"? look at this guy. seriously parma. all those thing u just said were really cool and very intimidating i wanna be just like you now :|
Hvy, you think he's intimidating? Parma is among one of the best, but people like Infinint, and Puffer, and Kasp could take him down in seconds. All of them are permied except kasp, but i'm making my point clear. I have nothing against parma, but pawngame has much, much worse. Parma is more of a stern defender then an intimidating troll, for that I respect him, but just watch out when Kaspersky gets unbanned.

[JohnCena]

http://www.pawngame.com/forum/showthread.php?p=709661#post709661

Well yeah, read it.

[Ryuk]

does more like a -2x job, the gauss STAFF is about as slow, weak, and the bullets seem to be slow as well.

Scout merged with Specialist would be pwnage
Scout Rifle
Poison Dart Gun
Knife
Clays

= Perfect



The classes are hardly changed, there's just 3 new ones, 2 of which just feel like fillers.

I don't think you properly remember what the scout's rifle was like. First of all, even with the slight speed increase for the sniper rifle, that thing was pretty darn sluggish and there was a high chance that you would get pelted by a gigantic sea of bullets before you can even get that 2nd shot in. Look at the ms speed of the guass, it fires fast as hell and its accuracy is unparalleled, it never misses.

[Klonoa]

The thing that made the Scout weak was pretty much it's armor... Hence the name "Scout".

I would honestly prefer this class over the Lancer. No, not because I just like / love it. =\

It's because in the hands of a person with excellent aiming, the Lancer is just a deadly class that is able to take down opponents in the same elevation within 2-4 shots depending on the class.

It's medium armor and Gauss Rifle is keeping this class alive I at least think... but yeah, the Scout had a slow rifle but makes sense, it's a Sniper Rifle for crying out loud... unless it's an auto-rifle. o.o

BUUUUUUUUUUUUT... I also agree that the Lancer should say too. The Lancer is more tougher (Speed-Wise) and stronger (Armor) than the Scout. The Scout also did more damage to the opponent compared to the Gauss Rifle. Since the update, I'd honestly keep the Lancer. Let's judge this by a 3 to 3 ratio.

SCOUT

DAMAGE - Scout > Lancer
SPEED - Scout < Lancer (This includes weapons.
ARMOR - Scout < Lancer

The Scout here only has one greater trait than a Lancer which is damage. Speed is the same.

LANCER

DAMAGE - Lancer < Scout
SPEED = Lancer > Scout
ARMOR = Lancer > Scout

In the end, the Lancer wins until the Scout WERE (Not saying it should) to come back and tested upon.

If it were... the Lancer would lose to the Scout since the scout's rifle took two shots to take down a Medium armored player. Due to it's light armor, the Lancer would lose BUT- BUT... it would win against other classes because it would be able to take more shots, specifically about 2-5 more shots than a Scout which means a lot.

Now.. the Scout would win in a 1v1 situation. Due to it's Armor, the Scout was forced to be a defensive class more than an offensive class to "Scout", which is the irony in this. Since it's light armored, It will take specifically 6 shots from BOTH a Heavy and an Assault to take him/her down, 1 single blast from a shotgun from a Support, a Single knife from a recon, 1 single crit hit from a Mauler and including Claymores, may win against Guard but not sure...

Comparing this...

SCOUT < LANCER

SUMMARY

The Scout is more than a 1v1 class instead of the Lancer.
The Scout would die in a matter of seconds that it wouldn't even be funny anymore.
The Scout may do more damage than the Lancer, but at the cost of the reload time which is VITAL during the battlefield.

Even though I LOVE the Scout so much, I have to disagree. They might as well just re-name the Lancer to the Scout since it's used offensively AND able to actually "SCOUT" without the fear of death... or occasional death.

[FoxSamus]

I like to have a option other then just lancer to kill heavies.
Plus, I think PT needs another light armored class.
But, if the scout did come back I would suggest that the secondary weapon have 50 ammo instead of 30.

[Ryuk]

I like to have a option other then just lancer to kill heavies.
Plus, I think PT needs another light armored class.
But, if the scout did come back I would suggest that the secondary weapon have 50 ammo instead of 30.

But if one class does its job better than the other, what is the point of keeping the other class? Lancers totally rape heavies, much better so than any scout could. Without an elevation advantage, scouts are only passive threats to an enemy heavy.

[Calmador]

The thing that made the Scout weak was pretty much it's armor... Hence the name "Scout".

I would honestly prefer this class over the Lancer. No, not because I just like / love it. =\

It's because in the hands of a person with excellent aiming, the Lancer is just a deadly class that is able to take down opponents in the same elevation within 2-4 shots depending on the class.

It's medium armor and Gauss Rifle is keeping this class alive I at least think... but yeah, the Scout had a slow rifle but makes sense, it's a Sniper Rifle for crying out loud... unless it's an auto-rifle. o.o

BUUUUUUUUUUUUT... I also agree that the Lancer should say too. The Lancer is more tougher (Speed-Wise) and stronger (Armor) than the Scout. The Scout also did more damage to the opponent compared to the Gauss Rifle. Since the update, I'd honestly keep the Lancer. Let's judge this by a 3 to 3 ratio.

SCOUT

DAMAGE - Scout > Lancer
SPEED - Scout < Lancer (This includes weapons.
ARMOR - Scout < Lancer

The Scout here only has one greater trait than a Lancer which is damage. Speed is the same.

LANCER

DAMAGE - Lancer < Scout
SPEED = Lancer > Scout
ARMOR = Lancer > Scout

In the end, the Lancer wins until the Scout WERE (Not saying it should) to come back and tested upon.

If it were... the Lancer would lose to the Scout since the scout's rifle took two shots to take down a Medium armored player. Due to it's light armor, the Lancer would lose BUT- BUT... it would win against other classes because it would be able to take more shots, specifically about 2-5 more shots than a Scout which means a lot.

Now.. the Scout would win in a 1v1 situation. Due to it's Armor, the Scout was forced to be a defensive class more than an offensive class to "Scout", which is the irony in this. Since it's light armored, It will take specifically 6 shots from BOTH a Heavy and an Assault to take him/her down, 1 single blast from a shotgun from a Support, a Single knife from a recon, 1 single crit hit from a Mauler and including Claymores, may win against Guard but not sure...

Comparing this...

SCOUT < LANCER

SUMMARY

The Scout is more than a 1v1 class instead of the Lancer.
The Scout would die in a matter of seconds that it wouldn't even be funny anymore.
The Scout may do more damage than the Lancer, but at the cost of the reload time which is VITAL during the battlefield.

Even though I LOVE the Scout so much, I have to disagree. They might as well just re-name the Lancer to the Scout since it's used offensively AND able to actually "SCOUT" without the fear of death... or occasional death.

^^^^ Reason #200,677 why I Klonoa is awesome

[someguy7982]

i would like to the scout class to come back but they would just replace the lancer with the scout since that lancer is kinda of like a sniper without the claymores and knife.

[Ryuk]

i would like to the scout class to come back but they would just replace the lancer with the scout since that lancer is kinda of like a sniper without the claymores and knife.

Well, sorry but it's sorta the other was around, you know. :|

Lancer replaced the scout.

[Encore]

lancers wit claymores