The Heavy, It's just a class.

[ReconReaper]

I'm sick of people always claiming that Heavies are noobish, anyone can take Heavies down, when using the right common sense. Every FFA game I play where I am straight Heavy, I get a bunch of PG newbs flaming me, the ones that joined after PT migrated.

Here's the differences for anyone who doesn't know. (A lot of people)

Heavy Pros -

1. Switch to the Desert Eagle when fighting another Heavy or a Guard.

2: Go after Assaults and Lancers first.

3: Doesn't melee a Guard if they can't get a straight shot, they throw grenades, or circle/juke the Guard until it's health is taken down by the Deagle.

4: Knows that when they are positioned right, the Heavy's melee can actually go through some walls or boxes, and can go over or up ledges.

5: Knows that if a Light/Medium armor enemy is almost out of range, it pays more to Deagle snipe the enemy, instead of spraying the enemy hopelessly. Vulcan's accuracy is pretty awful from that kind of range.

6: Will often shoot Medium armor enemies a couple times, then finish off with a melee attack, but usually they do this only at close range.

7: Can usually do the melee + turn combo to take out a few people out at once from close range.

Noob Heavies -

1: Use the Vulcan when fighting another Heavy or a Guard.

2: Will always go after Recons before the real danger...

3: Will usually, or quite often, melee spam a Heavy or Guard, hoping for a free kill.

4: If they are close to an enemy that is backpedaling, but just a bit too far, they will give chase while constantly Vulcan smacking instead of firing.

5: Always spray randomly without even realizing where the enemy is.

I think it's pretty easy to see that the Heavy is not a noob class. In fact, when used correctly, it's deadly, but when fighting a Heavy noob, I think it's pretty easy for a passing Recon to MP5 them down. If you can't deal with a Heavy beating you, just know that they are beating you because they know how to use it. If you don't want to whine, use a Lancer.

[woohoo]

It just so happens to be a class that owns every other one easily. Yes it can kill lancers somewhat easily. Use it, don't use it I don't care. Instead of whining find some way to beat it.
win>whine

[FlippysKnife]

Also,

Noob Heavy: Will shoot at you, even if your on a higher slope than him. [Lol no girls on the interwebz]

[SLAGATHOR]

Stop spreading the secrets, RR. This is what happened the first time noobs didn't know how to use heavy class. That was a fun month, though.

[ReconReaper]

I'm just so pissed at noobs always spreading their "Heavy noobass!" mentality.

[Jmoney]

Heavys arnt noobish anymore.
Because if you can't take down a good heavy with recon, you should learn to use assault or even better lancer.

[ReconReaper]

Exactly my point. In fact, Heavys were never noobish. If anything, they were LESS noobish when they didn't have melee. For some reason however, when melee came, people complained less.

[SnipeMe]

Heavy is no longer a noob class but that doesn't mean that heavies are not incredibly easy to use. What I hate is when people say that they own with heavy because the truth is that everybody owns with it. I'm perfectly fine with people using the class but the people that use it have to realize that the main reason for all their kills is the class itself, not "skill".

[Parma]

Alright, want to know what the difference between a noob and a pro is?

A "noob" is someone who possess great skill with one class, (any one class) and feels because of this they are better and/or have the right to gloat about there score.

A "pro" is someone who possess skill in more then likely over 4 classes and avoids gloating, and flame fests and complaining. They are the ones who just get on with the game. Guess how many of them there are? 7, oh and no your not one of them.

Look the whole subject that one class is a noob, or easier to use is stupid. Every class has a weakness.

[SnipeMe]

I do admit that heavies have a weakness but that doesn't mean they aren't easier to use in the average game then most of the other classes. Like guards and assaults, a heavy is capable of killing anything, including lancers. I don't really know the best way to prove my point but I did think of this:

If two incredibly low skilled players fight and one of them is a heavy, the heavy will win every single time (guards are not included because low skilled players don't know how to shield or what the shield even does. In this way, guards can destroy newbs) unless the enemy picks lancer. In that case, the heavy wins 75% of the time (this is assuming that the 2 newbs understand the concept of moving while you shoot). If the same heavy is fighting a medium skilled opponent, he will win most of the time unless the enemy is a lancer. If the same heavy is fighting highly skilled opponents, he will be able to get a few kills on supports and maulers (I think the explosive damage nerf meant the maulers launcher but I can't be sure) but he's pretty much doomed. However, as a low skilled heavy, he has the greatest chance of winning against highly skilled opponents then he has with any other class. Since most deathmatches are a mix of all skill levels, it's no suprise that the low skilled heavy sometimes wins.

This concept applies to heavies of all other skill levels. If it's a high skilled heavy (because of the way the heavy works out, they are generally only slightly more efficient then the medium skilled ones) against a high skilled lancer, the heavy generally has a 25% chance of victory.

These ratios have come solely from my experiences and inferences. I hope that analyzation makes sense and that I didn't miss anything. Remember, I'm just proving that the heavy is easy to use, I'm not trying to say that it's nooby.

[ratrase]

funny, but i find heavies to be one of the easier classes to fight agaisnt. Lancer and assult can just blind him, guard have to dodge 2 grenades, and then he cant do much to you.
When i play recon or mauler i find him hard, but then im not very good with these classes.
Ofc supporter lose against him, but that's not any suprise.

[SLAGATHOR]

Alright, want to know what the difference between a noob and a pro is?

A "noob" is someone who possess great skill with one class, (any one class) and feels because of this they are better and/or have the right to gloat about there score.

A "pro" is someone who possess skill in more then likely over 4 classes and avoids gloating, and flame fests and complaining. They are the ones who just get on with the game. Guess how many of them there are? 7, oh and no your not one of them.

Look the whole subject that one class is a noob, or easier to use is stupid. Every class has a weakness.

Completely agreed. I remember I got yelled at during v2 for using heavy a lot, but I /still/ used assault, recon, and scout to perfection. Nowadays, I use about 5/7 classes regularly.

[ReconReaper]

Alright, want to know what the difference between a noob and a pro is?

A "noob" is someone who possess great skill with one class, (any one class) and feels because of this they are better and/or have the right to gloat about there score.

A "pro" is someone who possess skill in more then likely over 4 classes and avoids gloating, and flame fests and complaining. They are the ones who just get on with the game. Guess how many of them there are? 7, oh and no your not one of them.

Look the whole subject that one class is a noob, or easier to use is stupid. Every class has a weakness.
If you're talking about me, then wrong.

I use Assault and Heavy most of the time, usually in FFA, Lancer and Heavy in Assault, Assault, Heavy, Lancer, and Recon in CTF.

I also only flame people when they get me mad, or lag so much that they don't die when I melee them three times.

[zenga]

The heavy to me is my K/D saver.

[WolfHowlz]

Actually if you're smart you WOULD go after the recons first instead of the lancers. Better to get 3 kills before the lancer finishes you off. If you go 1 on 1 to a lancer you would be killed in 3 shots.

[zenga]

Actually if you're smart you WOULD go after the recons first instead of the lancers. Better to get 3 kills before the lancer finishes you off. If you go 1 on 1 to a lancer you would be killed in 3 shots.

That is also true, i always go for easy kills :D
But if the Lancer is closer then yeah he dies 1st, then the recon.

[SnipeMe]

The class that you should kill generally depends on other variables such as health, location and wether or not it's a kill-based game mode like FFAor TDM. Btw, TDM is currently my favorite game mode. Also, Im glad to see that the plague of 50 heavies per game has come to an end. I hope it doesn't come back anytime soon because seeing too much of any class is annoying.

[Balddude]

For me...


Heavy = 93-17 (Average is around 40-15)

Recon = 68-15 (Average is around 35-10)

Support (I kamikaze a lot with this) = 35-15 (Average is around 25-17)

Assault = 45-20 (Average is around 30-15)

Mauler (I camp with this) = 20-5 (Average is around 10-8)

Lancer = 55-7 (Average is around 35-15

Guard = Forget about this, I suck



Bottom line is, different classes all posses different killing abilities. The Heavy may possess awesome killing instincts, but other classes are also capable of taking down enemies quickly and deftly. Most of them are in fact even better 1 on 1 killers taking in the fact that their speed allows them to get away faster. All in all, Heavy is not a "noob" class, there is no such thing as a "noob" class. The only thing that is "noob" are the people who call this class "noob".

[Ryuk]

Actually if you're smart you WOULD go after the recons first instead of the lancers. Better to get 3 kills before the lancer finishes you off. If you go 1 on 1 to a lancer you would be killed in 3 shots.

*2 shots :|

Actually, Parma, a "pro" really does not need specialty with that many classes, I thought usually learning about 2 classes would be sufficient for most of the games you would play in. Heck, if you only learned one class, and that class happened to be an assault, you don't need to learn anything else.

[Calisniper13]

With the inclusion of the Lancer, heavies have lost their awesomeness

[ReconReaper]

It's two shots for Heavy armor, three shots for Medium armor. I find it more effective though to shoot Medium armor soldiers twice with the Gauss, then finish them off with two Auto-Pistol bullets.

Also Wolfhowlz, yes, for kills go after Recons, but to survive and kill MORE, go after Lancers and Assaults.

[FlippysKnife]

It's two shots for Heavy armor, three shots for Medium armor. I find it more effective though to shoot Medium armor soldiers twice with the Gauss, then finish them off with two Auto-Pistol bullets.

Also Wolfhowlz, yes, for kills go after Recons, but to survive and kill MORE, go after Lancers and Assaults.


If you go for the lancers, they must of weakened you already, then the recons will gun you down easily.

[ReconReaper]

Usually when I fight Lancers, I shoot them a few times, by then they just rush me like idiots. Then I just lay the smackdown on them. When I'm Heavy, I rarely get beaten by a Lancer head on. If I have cover then I for sure win.