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GiutarGuy
02-17-2009, 08:29 PM
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Discuss.
Killerrrrrr
02-20-2009, 07:45 PM
Yesh I like them. Unfortunatly, I only know a couple songs...
JediLucas5
02-20-2009, 07:50 PM
They were good. People think they started Death Metal. I think Cannibal Corpse did to be honest but it can be argued since Death didn't get to far before they're lead singer died.
GiutarGuy
02-20-2009, 08:18 PM
They were good. People think they started Death Metal. I think Cannibal Corpse did to be honest but it can be argued since Death didn't get to far before they're lead singer died.

Chuck had left Death before they discovered the tumor, and death metal gets its name from Death, so there's no point in arguing that Cannibal Corpse invented it.
JediLucas5
02-20-2009, 08:40 PM
Chuck had left Death before they discovered the tumor, and death metal gets its name from Death, so there's no point in arguing that Cannibal Corpse invented it.

Death never even made serious DEATH METAL though. They just invented the vocals for it. Cannibal Corpse polished it and made it into the crazy "I KILL PEOPLE" Death Metal we see today.
wut
02-20-2009, 09:23 PM
Death never even made serious DEATH METAL though. They just invented the vocals for it. Cannibal Corpse polished it and made it into the crazy "I KILL PEOPLE" Death Metal we see today.

And Butchered at Birth is a prime example.
GiutarGuy
02-20-2009, 11:16 PM
Death never even made serious DEATH METAL though. They just invented the vocals for it. Cannibal Corpse polished it and made it into the crazy "I KILL PEOPLE" Death Metal we see today.

Death > Cannibal Corpse

Chuck is the father of death metal, though he was too modest to admit it. And as for the "I KILL PEOPLE" death metal we see today, ever notice that modern metal bands usually suck balls? And Chuck was against the stereotype that metal guys are anti-life and pro-violence and crap.
JediLucas5
02-21-2009, 07:06 PM
Death > Cannibal Corpse

Chuck is the father of death metal, though he was too modest to admit it. And as for the "I KILL PEOPLE" death metal we see today, ever notice that modern metal bands usually suck balls? And Chuck was against the stereotype that metal guys are anti-life and pro-violence and crap.

That's where Chuck was wrong. Metal was FOUNDED on the ideas of anti-life and pro-violence. Just look at Slayer. Most modern bands don't SUCK balls. Cause I can name a couple of recent ones around this genre that turned out great.
GiutarGuy
02-22-2009, 08:35 PM
That's where Chuck was wrong. Metal was FOUNDED on the ideas of anti-life and pro-violence. Just look at Slayer. Most modern bands don't SUCK balls. Cause I can name a couple of recent ones around this genre that turned out great.

FAIL!

Metal was first made by Black Sabbath, not founded on the ideals of death and violence, but just made to be scary, they wanted to do something like a horror movie thing where people would listen cause they enjoyed getting freak out. They didn't want people to kill them selves. It was founded on the ideals of expressing yourself, not being anti-life and pro-violence.
wut
02-22-2009, 08:56 PM
FAIL!

Metal was first made by Black Sabbath, not founded on the ideals of death and violence, but just made to be scary, they wanted to do something like a horror movie thing where people would listen cause they enjoyed getting freak out. They didn't want people to kill them selves. It was founded on the ideals of expressing yourself, not being anti-life and pro-violence.

Not founded on death and violence?

Black Sabbath?

With Ozzy Ozbourne,

the king of darkness?

Seriously?
JediLucas5
02-22-2009, 09:16 PM
FAIL!

Metal was first made by Black Sabbath, not founded on the ideals of death and violence, but just made to be scary, they wanted to do something like a horror movie thing where people would listen cause they enjoyed getting freak out. They didn't want people to kill them selves. It was founded on the ideals of expressing yourself, not being anti-life and pro-violence.

LOL? Just read what CP said.

Ozzy bit the head off a dove and your trying to say they weren't pro-violence. Don't even try to go on about how that is just expression.

Anyways your pretty much saying that Slayer isn't Metal. Since the only thing they talked about is killing, war, and violence. Slayer is more Metal than Sabbath was, and always will be. Even if they were the "FOUNDERS" (or so you say) of Metal.
GiutarGuy
02-23-2009, 11:31 PM
LOL? Just read what CP said.

Ozzy bit the head off a dove and your trying to say they weren't pro-violence. Don't even try to go on about how that is just expression.

Anyways your pretty much saying that Slayer isn't Metal. Since the only thing they talked about is killing, war, and violence. Slayer is more Metal than Sabbath was, and always will be. Even if they were the "FOUNDERS" (or so you say) of Metal.

Again, Ozzy was just doing that to freak people out and have fun. And he wasn't anti-life either.

And no, I didn't say anything about how singing about killing is not metal, I said metal is based on expressing yourself, if you want to sing about death, go ahead, lyrics don't change the metalness of something.

And Sabbath played a different type of metal than Slayer, it's impossible to be more metal or less metal, since it's a genre, not a ranking scale. They were also the first to play this, and the first band considered to be metal, just as Death was the first band considered Death metal, even if some bands go off and do different things with it. Sabbath layed the grounds for Thrash metal, doom metal, black metal, death metal, etc. Without Sabbath, none of this would be.
JediLucas5
02-24-2009, 09:09 PM
Again, Ozzy was just doing that to freak people out and have fun. And he wasn't anti-life either.

And no, I didn't say anything about how singing about killing is not metal, I said metal is based on expressing yourself, if you want to sing about death, go ahead, lyrics don't change the metalness of something.

And Sabbath played a different type of metal than Slayer, it's impossible to be more metal or less metal, since it's a genre, not a ranking scale. They were also the first to play this, and the first band considered to be metal, just as Death was the first band considered Death metal, even if some bands go off and do different things with it. Sabbath layed the grounds for Thrash metal, doom metal, black metal, death metal, etc. Without Sabbath, none of this would be.

Sabbath didn't lay the ground for Thrash, Black, or Death Metal just to let you know. I'm pretty sure there is a documentary on how Deep Purple was the biggest and earliest influence on Metal we have today.
GiutarGuy
02-24-2009, 11:41 PM
Sabbath didn't lay the ground for Thrash, Black, or Death Metal just to let you know. I'm pretty sure there is a documentary on how Deep Purple was the biggest and earliest influence on Metal we have today.

I do agree that Deep Purple was VERY influential on metal, and even on Sabbath, but Sabbath was the first metal band, while Deep Purple was more proto-metal, laying the ground for Sabbath.

edit: Either way, we need to get back on track and start discussing the band Death, since this is a thread about Death, not general metal.