Pro-Oriented Maps

[jfella91]

EDIT: THESE ARE JUST MY NOOBISH ATTEMPTS AT THIS. EXPERIENCED MAP-MAKERS WHO WILL SPEND A TON OF TIME MAKING A SICK MAP IN THE FASHION OF CASTLE WARS FEEL FREE TO DO SO AND SHOW HOW MUCH BETTER YOU CAN DO THAN ME. It would be freaking awesome if someone could make a map based off the cw concept that got passed.


I have been working on a series of 3x1 maps that the average pro can enjoy. Seeing as pros only seem to play castle wars, some are based of off the castle wars concept.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3364/forestbattlemj9.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4229/moonwarsai0.jpg

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7023/waterkq4.jpg

The top of the last map is not as flat as it seems because of the screen cut-off.


Ups? Downs? Any changes I should make?



EDIT:

Version 2 of maps:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4200/forestbattlemz1.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1250/waternd1.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5808/moonwarszl3.jpg

[Jenoveil]

Err, I'm no pro at this but everyone always yells at me when I put floating ladders, so I suppose fix that?

Also, I'm pretty sure that the refills at each base in the first map are redundant, both are way too close to each other.

Also, same goes with the 2nd map, 3 refills that are that close shouldn't be there :o

Otherwise, they're alright.

[SeasonalTNT]

Floating ladders are a no-go; unless Canopy.

Critique on the third one:
- Too flat near top.
- Refill placement not that great.
- Camp spots at bottom corners.

[Brandon0104]

I rate map #1, 1/5

Middle screen looks messy
Ladders are too long
spawn camping
Spawns are too close
Refils are too close, bad refil placement
Crouches
Tight
Flat
I rate map #2, 1/5.


Lots of unsed space
Tight
Spawns are too close, Spawn camping
Flat
Plain
Floating Ladders
I rate map #3, 1.25/5

Floating ladders
Tight
Flat
Touching refils
Crouches
I think those maps would have fun gameplay :D

[jfella91]

Err, I'm no pro at this but everyone always yells at me when I put floating ladders, so I suppose fix that?

Also, I'm pretty sure that the refills at each base in the first map are redundant, both are way too close to each other.

Also, same goes with the 2nd map, 3 refills that are that close shouldn't be there :o

Otherwise, they're alright.

I consider you pro... anyways, the floating ladders I guess I will change, but I think that's bs that map-makers complain about them because they don't really take away from a map. The refills are definitely redundant :P .

Floating ladders are a no-go; unless Canopy.

Critique on the third one:
- Too flat near top.
- Refill placement not that great.
- Camp spots at bottom corners.

The top isn't as flat as it looks because of screen-switching, but you are right, it could use with a bit shortening. And that's 2 comments on the refills, so they definitely need to be rearranged.

[SeasonalTNT]

The Canopy map: Fix the tree in the middle so it doesn't look like a stump.

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[V]

Wanna know a secret?

Any said pro, who plays Castle Wars... Is definately not pro.

[jfella91]

Wanna know a secret?

Any said pro, who plays Castle Wars... Is definately not pro.

*sigh*

All the good players mostly only play castle wars. If you were a good player, maybe you'd know that.

Anyways, I don't think I'm going to fit into the map-making community. No point in anyone else replying to this thread.

[SeasonalTNT]

It's not that you're not gonna fit into the map making community. It's just that way too few people make maps the way you do. Rather, try to adapt to the way the rest of the community makes maps, continue doing your thing on the side. Don't get discouraged (:

[V]

*sigh*

All the good players mostly only play castle wars. If you were a good player, maybe you'd know that.

Anyways, I don't think I'm going to fit into the map-making community. No point in anyone else replying to this thread.

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You obviously don't know who I am.

[Calisniper13]

*sigh*

All the good players mostly only play castle wars. If you were a good player, maybe you'd know that.

Anyways, I don't think I'm going to fit into the map-making community. No point in anyone else replying to this thread.

You have just failed. Kthx. Please exit to your right.

[Ganha]

Not good visual... try making more likable?

[SL1CK3R]

Well, they look good and all, but they have some camp spots, and log ladders=fail.

3/5.

[jfella91]

You have just failed. Kthx. Please exit to your right.

Haha you just say that cuz you suck in CW, I seen you play in CW and u sucked.

[tinglian]

Bored maps.

[shooter65]

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You obviously don't know who I am.

The almighty pro v has spoken.

O:

[jfella91]

Modified all maps based on more forum and in-game feedback:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4200/forestbattlemz1.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1250/waternd1.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5808/moonwarszl3.jpg

Thx to Jenoveil, Frecklemagic and random ppl for testing.

Definitely can always do with changes. Suggestions welcome.

[Soul]

I've usually seen ladders that are maybe 2 or 3 tiles off the mark BUT OMFG!

Chop the ladders til there 1 tile above the platform
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Flat is bad make a pyramid of 3 blocks. E.G [][][]

Fix the refills (put them in more flashier and away from spawn places.)

try to keep space at 3 blocks if you can

Don't rip (making stuff after castle wars)

And no castle wars is phail; center conflict is win

[jfella91]

I've usually seen ladders that are maybe 2 or 3 tiles off the mark BUT OMFG!

Chop the ladders til there 1 tile above the platform
--------------------------------------------------[]
Flat is bad make a pyramid of 3 blocks. E.G [][][]

Fix the refills (put them in more flashier and away from spawn places.)

try to keep space at 3 blocks if you can

Don't rip (making stuff after castle wars)

And no castle wars is phail; center conflict is win


The only map where the ladders are not cut-off 1 tile above the platform is the tree one, and that is because of the style of the map, where each ladder can lead to 3 or 4 different platforms. The refills have been placed in spots that leave the player open or are hard to get to.

And don't kid urselves, you can't deny it because the evidence is right in front of everyone, the good players of this generation of pawn players all play cw mostly, other than a few exceptions.

[NuMbA]

they all have 1 or the other
-floating ladders
-spawn camping
-ladder too long
-very flat
-lots of empty space

[jfella91]

they all have 1 or the other
-floating ladders
-spawn camping
-ladder too long
-very flat
-lots of empty space

Floating ladders - eliminated in version 2, except for in canopy
Spawn camping - intentional.
Ladder too long - I'll work on it, unless if you mean in the canopy one
Very flat - The water one, if that is the one you are referring to, is not as flat as it looks because of screen cut-off. I'll try and make some changes to reduce flatness in general though.
Lots of empty space - required in some areas for dual ladder fights. Empty space intentional in the middle.

[Sinful]

*sigh*

All the good players mostly only play castle wars. If you were a good player, maybe you'd know that.

Anyways, I don't think I'm going to fit into the map-making community. No point in anyone else replying to this thread.

Good players play in numerous maps, you fool. You cant simply say that all good people play in castle wars? Good players play in lights out. not in a camp tastic map.

[jfella91]

Good players play in numerous maps, you fool. You cant simply say that all good people play in castle wars? Good players play in lights out. not in a camp tastic map.

OOPS, good players also play LO. And the odd other game and personal preferences and whatnot. I'm just saying MOSTLY castle wars. The average map you are going to find a bunch of pros playing is cw. You'll never walk into an Arena or a Jungle Assault and find many good players. I just think we should have an alternative to cw, something that is like cw.

[RaptorZ]

OK LET ME SET ONE RULE DOWN

Good Players play all maps, June, Castle, Wars, Arena,etc. They just wanna own noobs, so they go to a place with a lot of people, and own noobs, i mean i wouldnt know about owning, but ive been observing.

[jfella91]

OK LET ME SET ONE RULE DOWN

Good Players play all maps, June, Castle, Wars, Arena,etc. They just wanna own noobs, so they go to a place with a lot of people, and own noobs, i mean i wouldnt know about owning, but ive been observing.

Depends what you consider good... honestly, try going in castle war games a lot, then go in a bunch of arena games. Tell me which has better players.

[RaptorZ]

Well go to cold front and cwars, which are better?

[Cleanator]

For the third one. Go to the middle and 5 rows down from the top. Try to make that part better.